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Muslim Kryptonite: Pigs

12 Apr

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Circa A.D. 1900, U.S. Army Major “Black Jack” Pershing (he would later achieve the highest rank possible: “General of the Armies”) was involved in suppressing a rebellion by the “Huks” in the Philippines.  The Huks were fierce Muslim warriors.  Motivated by their Muslim faith, the Huks did not fear death.  If they died fighting in a Jihad, they were guaranteed a trip to Paradise complete with 72, count ‘em, 72 virgins.

The Huks therefore fought with such intensity and fearlessness that the Army reportedly developed the .45 caliber semi-automatic pistol to put them down.  If they were shot with smaller calibers, they simply kept charging.

Major Pershing realized he was not simply engaged in a shooting war.  He was engaged in a spiritual war (Jihad).  He adjusted his tactics accordingly and started fighting on a spiritual level.  He opted to fight Jihad with the Muslim faith.

Pershing  eventually stopped the Huk uprising by capturing 20 Huks, lining 19 up against a wall and shooting them while the one remaining Huk observed.  Major Pershing made sure that the survivor observed and understood that each of the bullets used to kill the 19 captives had been dipped in pigs blood before they were fired.  After the 19 captives had been killed by pig-infused bullets, their 19 bodies were buried in a common grave filled with pig bodies, entrails and blood.  Major Pershing made sure that the one survivor understood that the 19 bodies had been buried in pig remains.

Pershing released the lone survivor to tell his story to his fellow Muslim rebels.  The Muslims–made fearless by their faith (at least in relation to lead bullets and personal death)–were similarly terrified by their faith and the prospect of dying with pigs blood in their body and being buried in pig remains.  The Koran makes clean that such “pollution” will not be tolerated and those so polluted by pig will not enter Paradise.  Without the promise of Paradise and 72 virgins, the Huk Jihad ended instantly.

Pershing had used the Koran (and some pork) to stop the Jihad cold.

 

Here’s the text of an email I received that illustrates that what worked to stop Muslims a century ago, still works today:

It’s “Plant A Pig Time”

The Spaniards’ Brilliant Idea!!

In Seville Spain, local people found a way to stop the construction of another mosque in their town.  They buried a pig on the site, and made sure this would be known by the local press.

The Islamic rules forbid the erecting of a Mosque on “pig soiled ground.” The Muslims had to cancel the project.  This land was sold to them by government officials.

No protests were needed by the local people…and it worked!


The Pigs of Texas Are Upon You?

In Texas we have an over abundance of feral pigs.  We could send them all over the country and just plant them everywhere!

After all, contaminated soil would surely drift and they could create new job programs by having soil testers to determine where contaminated soil existed.

Of course, high on the mountaintops of the Rockies or other mountain ranges they might find some uncontaminated soil, but then building a mosque there would pose some problems.

Americans, put on your thinking caps and let’s find a solution to this problem of a spreading menace to the American way of life!  If pigs are the answer, let’s do it!

From Your Committee for the Betterment of America !

(Maybe we could get someone to plant a pig at the White House . . . just thinking . . . .)

 

Simply put, if you want to stop a Muslim, get a pig.

We’ve been screwing around, fighting Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, for eight years.  That’s the longest “war” in American history.  Several thousand Americans have been killed.  Tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed.  No telling how many more Americans and Muslims have been wounded, terrified or psychologically scarred.  And I’m not just talking about combatants.  The toll on hundreds of thousands of non-combatants–including children–has been enormous and horrific.

The cost to the US for these “police actions” has run over $1 trillion.  God only knows what these police actions have cost the Muslims.

All of these lives lost (on both sides) and costs incurred (by both sides) could have been slashed to comparative insignificance (if you can ever call killing “insignificant”), if our government had simply developed bullets that included a core of dried pigs blood and fragmentation bombs that included pigs blood in the fragments.

Most Muslims won’t fight if they can’t expect a free trip to Paradise and 72 virgins (or whatever) if they die in Jihad.  And–if they die from a pig-polluted bullet or bomb fragment–they won’t be allowed into Paradise. That means no 72 virgins and perhaps an eternity of jerking off in Hell (or wherever Muslims go who don’t get into Paradise).

Lace your bullets with pig blood, and the Muslims won’t fight.  If the Muslims won’t fight, there is no war.  If there’s no war, there’s no bombing, there’s no depleted uranium bullets, and there’s no “collateral damages” (dead children).

Start infusing your bullets with pig’s blood and the “religion of peace” will become genuinely peaceful.

Add some pigs blood to your bullets (“a little dab’ll do ya!”) and a shooting war can be cooled down to the temperature of a spiritual war.

Some people might object to using pig’s blood in bullets as unconscionable. I suggest that if pigs blood had been used in our bullets from the day we invaded in A.D. 2003, the conflict would’ve ended in days (maybe hours) rather than years.  Hundreds of thousands of people would still be alive.  The carnage of the recent “police actions” would’ve been unnecessary.  And the costs incurred would’ve been slashed to a few billion dollars.

Again, the idea fighting Muslims with bullets infused with pig’s blood is over a century old.  It’s a proven technology for stopping Jihad.  So, why hasn’t anyone in our government attempted to implement this “technology” in the current confrontation?  Is this oversight the result of ignorance and/or stupidity?  Or wickedness?

I suspect that our government’s failure to infuse bullets with pig’s blood is intentional since doing so would’ve ended the current “wars” almost as soon as they’d started.  Somebody wants these “wars”.  As in Viet Nam, they don’t want victory; they want “wars” that last almost endlessly.   Somebody wants to spend all that money on weapons.  Somebody wants to cause hundreds of thousands of deaths. Somebody wants an excuse to pass bills like the “Patriot Act”.  Somebody wicked wants these Middle East wars.

 

 

 

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24 responses to “Muslim Kryptonite: Pigs

  1. Tom Terror

    August 1, 2011 at 4:09 PM

    In regard to your article on Muslims being defeated by pig parts, I find the inconsistency of the Muslim religion remarkable. The Muslim “god” (styled “Allah”) is the supposed creator of the universe, which would therefore logically make him lord of all. Yet, Allah delivers to his followers a religion which allows them to be defeated by an animal which Allah supposedly created and supposedly rules. Did Allah not think out the implications of this when he was dictating the Koran to Muhammad? Oh, that’s right–the Koran is an eternal book, which poses some other problems about Allah being supreme. Well, if we really want to get rid of our Muslim troubles, I propose sending an expeditionary force against Mecca. All they have to do is slaugher a pig inside the Ka’aba, and the entire religion of Islam collapses.

     
    • Lance

      May 25, 2013 at 9:01 AM

      Couldnt we just airdrop in a few hundred gallons of pigblood

       
  2. John Johnson

    October 11, 2011 at 4:17 AM

    If You dont Invite,
    your Family, Friends, and Neighbors, to Church,
    the Muslims will Invite them to the Mosque.

    When I was in Dallas,tx,
    a Muslim offered to give me a Muslim Tract.

    In Oakland ca,
    Muslims have set up Regularly manned Booths.

    Once you Meet a Blond Haired, very Blue- eyed Muslim,
    I have! 3 times now,
    then you will Know,
    the Time to Talk,
    to your Family, Friends, and Neighbors,
    about God, Jesus , and the Bible,
    is Now,
    for the Rest of your Life.

    .

     
  3. Moose

    February 28, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    72 virgins huh ? Is clear on whether the virgins would be male or female? And if they would be human or goat?

     
    • Adask

      February 28, 2012 at 10:50 PM

      Might be goat, but it couldn’t be “moose” because I don’t think they have any “moose” in the Middle East. Camels are probably the closest thing they have to “moose”. Maybe that’s where they got the slogan “I’d walk a mile for a camel” (and two miles for a virgin camel).

       
      • TrooperTK

        August 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM

        The term “A hump on a camel”, takes on a whole new meaning.

         
  4. christian

    September 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Why not use crop dusters filled with swine blood to spray over entire Muslim populations with loud speakers announcing what is happening. This is not using “weapons of mass destruction”, however, thousands of devout “Jihad” Muslims would literally go insane knowing that they cannot enter “Paradise” with 72 virgins. Just a thought folks…

     
  5. David Adex

    January 11, 2013 at 4:23 AM

    Whao, dis is awesome, i hope Nigerian’ govt. w imbibe dis. Kudos to d researcher and d one who posted it, dis we end d madnesss of d jihadists.

     
  6. Zion

    June 28, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Attention, world muslims, jews and all others that believe it is unlawful to touch pork or allow it into your bodies due to impurities that God purified, Americans eat pig! Pig is in American’s blood and water bodies. Our bodies sweat pig water into the Air. If you breathe in American Air or Drink American Water, You have pig entering into your mind, body and soul already. If you smell bacon, it has already entered your brain and cannot be removed. If you have SEX with an American that eats pig, you are touching pig in their body of water that exumes from our skin. The only way to be saved is to leave the country of America, accept Jesus Christ as God, for Him and His Father, is in us All and Water too, purifying pigs to those that believe in Jesus Christ and BY NO OTHER NAME, SHALL YOU BE SAVED! America’s sweat, water and air, will follow you wherever you go so you had better hurry up and repent from worshipping some other perishing false impurities and false gods and idols for My God IS in the Air, Light and Water and is coming to All, in All, so is pig.
    Who wants a yummy cream filled twinky? Attention All muslims, jews, Christians, Buddhists and Gentiles of America or has ever been here. When you smell bacon being cooked, that is molecules of pork of pig, entering your body and brain and cannot be removed. Restaurants and Americans cook with pig fat. Whomever eats or whos generations past has eaten or smelled pork is also in you now. Whoever’s had any generation that ate fried chicken or any fried food In the past made with lard as All Americans free or in slavery in the beginning of America to now has already, has eaten pig fat and is in you now. Accept Jesus Christ for in and with Him entertaining His righteousness living in Him and His Father with holy spirit of Christ In and through All, with Them in you and nature, then, All things are pure To you. I say as was told Peter, “Do not call common or impure that in which I Have Purified”. Eat pig, pork and cook bacon too for all to smell for food is purified in sanctification and prayer by faith In Jesus Christ, as food Is His Flesh as is drink is His Blood. JOHN 6:50-59. Acts 11:1-18. Titus 1; 15-16, Romans 14. NKJV.

     
  7. Sam

    August 23, 2013 at 3:55 AM

    I think this is an urban myth. I have seen it referring to Australia and to Spain and Switzerland, but as there has been no big reaction (riots or threats) by Moslims I have my doubts.

     
  8. Bobby Goodwin

    September 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    Pigs are referred to in scripture as “swine”, their meat is “pork”. America is a swine eating nation. People including most Christians are obsessed with eating pork. Seems like the majority of food is pork laced one way or another. Pork is the most unclean food listed in the bible. Even Jesus used pigs to cast demons into.

    According to most Christians, eating pork is now permitted thanks to the (mis-understood) story in Acts 10:1-11:18, about Peter having a dream about a sheet coming down from heaven with pictures of unclean animals on it. Peter was told “kill and eat” of the unclean animals. He didn’t of course, because he knew he was just being tested. He knew thatGod would never go back on his word and clense unclean animals. The entire vision was actually pertaining to Peter preaching unto Gentiles. Nowhere did God (YHWH) change the food laws!

    To prove eating pork will always be forbidden, we need only read about the end times on earth, when it is written (ISAIAH 66:14-16) that those who are caught eating swine (and other abominations) “shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.”

    You’re damn right Muslims fear pig blood touching their bodies, so do jews who obey God’s laws. Remember the scripture of Mal 3:6 “. “I am the Lord (YHWH) I change not.”

     
    • tommy glen

      February 9, 2014 at 11:29 PM

      Thank you, Bobby

       
  9. EDOMS THORN

    August 9, 2014 at 8:06 PM

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    Al,

    If only you would trouble yourself with researching what I have presented at edomsthorn.wordpress.com you would understand the who “SOMEBODY WICKED” is. And as you researched, you would then SEE who WE are, and WHY those Wicked EDOMITE JEWS, have long sense infiltrated OUR Government and have guided OUR Foreign and Domestic Policies designed for OUR DESTRUCTION!

    NOW DO NOT PRETEND I am talking about the ISRAELITES that are of JACOB. I am talking about those that Jesus pointed to that were impersonating ISRAEL but were “NOT” ISRAEL/JACOB. It is sad that you will not have an HONEST and ADULT conversation on this subject, but your readers and MY fellow KINSMEN need to understand the things that I have presented! The lies are not that hard to see, but WE MUST first look with understanding, at what GOD said, not what EDOM told them to believe!

    You asked me the last time I posted here if I had read “ALL OF” your articles, but the real question is “HAVE YOU READ ANY OF MINE”! Get your Pastors to refute me if you can. But I have been there with those Seminary Trained Pastors, and they admit what I say is true, but they (in ANGER) cry out, “what has that got to do with saving Souls” AND SHAME on them! They refuse to understand that “IF” WE are true ISRAEL, then EDOM is still OUR ENEMY!
    Good GOD man, I saw it in 1970 at age 14, it just is not that hard to understand IF you forget all of the lies that have been infused into the Christian FAITH.

    I love you Al, and hope you will give this a bit more thought than you have up to now. Understanding EDOM is KEY to understanding the New World Order!

    EDOM = The NEW WORLD ORDER
    JACOB through the MESSIAH, JESUS CHRIST = The SOON COMING KINGDOM oF GOD!
    II Esdras 6:7-10 “For ESAU (EDOM) IS THE END OF THIS AGE, AND JACOB IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ONE THAT FOLLOWS”

     
  10. Adask

    August 9, 2014 at 10:34 PM

    No, if I visit your website, I would not “understand” who “SOMEBODY WICKED” is. I would only understand YOUR OPINION of who “SOMEBODY WICKED” is.

    But, having understood your opinion, what would I do with it? You can only identify the “SOMEBODY WICKED” as a general theory. If presented with 1,000 Jews, you have no viable means to accurately discern which of those Jews are associated with Israel and which are associated with the “synagogue of Satan”.

    Sure–some Jews are bad, but some Jews are good. Some are of the synagogue of Satan and some are not. But who can tell which is which? I cannot. More, I know of no one–including you, Edom–who can do so accurately.

    So, what good is your knowledge of “SOMEBODY WICKED,” if it can’t be reliably applied? Do you suggest that we jail or murder all of the Jews who might be “SOMEBODY WICKED” and take a chance on executing some innocent (or even blessed) Jews of Israel as “collateral damage”?

    Do you want to try to explain to the Good LORD that you mistakenly killed some of His “good” Jews thinking they might be “SOMEBODY WICKED” of the “synagogue of Satan”? Do you think you’re smart enough to make that pitch to God? I don’t think I am, so I have no intention of trying to oppress or even murder some Jews under the pretext that they MIGHT be members of the “synagogue of Satan”.

    For, when it comes to discerning the members of the “synagogue of Satan,” I am reminded of the parable of the wheat and the tares where some “enemy” planted “bad seed” among the “good seed” in the master’s garden. The master’s servants ask if they should begin to pluck up the plants growing from the “bad seeds” and remove them from the garden. The master advises No, leave ‘em alone. If you try to rip up the bad-seed plants now, you’ll only injure the nearby good-seed plants. Leave both sets of plants as is until harvest-time comes and then, the separation will take place. The plants of the good seeds will go to the storehouse and the plants of the bad seeds will be destroyed by fire.

    I regard the “Jewish problem” the same way. I leave the “problem” (if there is one) up to the Good LORD. I do not feel “called” to address that issue. I am content to leave the “problem” (if there is one) until the day of “harvest” when the Good LORD will separate the good Jews from the bad–and also the good Christians from bad. In the meantime, as Freddie Prinz once observed “Eeese nah mah yob.”

    Incidentally, speaking of the “synagogue of Satan,” it occurs to me that that “synagogue” might also include the 501(c)3 churches. If that were true, do we have more to fear from the Jews in the “synagogue of Satan,” or the “Christians” in the 501(c)3 “churches”?

    And, yes, it’s a shame that I’m not as intelligent as you, Edom. It’s a shame that I’m not as arrogant and conceited as you, too. But who knows? When I grow up, I may be able to rise to your exalted levels of insight, understanding, arrogance and conceit.

    In the meantime, I rely on the Good LORD to guide me to whatever He wants me to read, understand and sometimes even write about. So far, He hasn’t inclined me to visit your website. So, don’t expect me to do so anytime soon. But, if the Spirit moves you, feel free to hang out on my website/blog whenever you like.

     
    • EDOMS THORN

      August 11, 2014 at 7:59 PM

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      WONDERFUL!
      God does not MAKE you seek knowledge and understanding. Nor does HE prevent you from being in IGNORance! That my friend is the choice that you made. God will allow you to RIDICULE and run from the truth! God ALLOWS IGNORANCE! IF you have no concern for understanding and FACTS, that is your GOD GIVEN RIGHT! But to ridicule me as not being able to discern the “good from the bad” and ignore my points with nothing that speaks to the FACTS that I have presented, both here and at my site, is to be INTELLECTUALLY dishonest, and rude! Yes this is your site. Do as you will. But I see that you bring up the symptoms of the disease that plagues the west, while I KNOW what Gods word says about those fleshly servants of SATAN, and the Messiah pointed to EDOM as that disease, and Gods word points to EDOM as OUR enemy, AND the creator of modern day Israel. My research is sound and has not been refuted. IGNORED, but not refuted. It is not that hard to understand, nor would it take very long to research.

      WHO is the “bad” “We shall know them by their fruits”

      The problem, ( I believe) is your lack of understanding of the word “JEW”. I provided you with the FACTS concerning that word, and I also presented you with some OVER LOOKED facts concerning the word “ISRAEL”, that clearly shows that is HIS word, ISRAEL was NEVER called JEW!

      The word “ISRAEL” occurs 2568 times in 2294 verses in the KJV, and not one time is ISRAEL called “JEW” The Book of Romans is largely about Gods love for ISRAEL/Jacob and the word “JEW” is used there ten times and not one time is it used for ISRAEL. WHY NOT?

      Isaiah 11:12 “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth”…
      ` ` {AMERICA, Australia, Canada, Denmark, England, Finland, Greenland, Hawaii, Iceland, New Zealand, South Africa That looks like FOUR CORNERS to me!} …” Scripture provides many things that describe (MARKS) ISRAEL that are not found in the “JEWS” The MARKS are on us everywhere; in our NAME; in our SABBATH; in our INSTITUTIONS; in our PHILANTHROPY; in our COMMERCE; in our WEALTH; in our MINES; in our AGRICULTURE; in our CHURCHES; in our MISSIONARY ENTERPRISES; in our ARMED FORCES; in our POSSESSION OF THE BIBLE: – all BIRTHMARKS, which neither time, nor the ages, nor even our sin can wipe out”…

      I prayerfully hope you will FINALLY give careful consideration to the FACTS that I have presented.
      NONE of us are able to KNOW everything. None of us even know what it is that we may have over looked. But we do know that we should never reject knowledge with out first researching and proving ALL things, as the Scriptures tell US!

      I am on your side, and do not intend to bring any bad feelings or thoughts towards you. WE are in a war, that the Bible tells us, the first article in OUR armor is “TRUTH”. That is what we need to see. Much truth has been over looked or hidden from us. Lets LOOK!

      Facts concerning the Origin of the word JEW.

      http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/html/origin_of_the_word_jew.html

      More on the word “JEW” from a “JEW”

      http://www.henrymakow.com/jesus_was_not_a_jew_–benjamin.html

      Proverbs 1:20-22 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?”

       
      • Adask

        August 11, 2014 at 11:00 PM

        First, while I don’t know what the Good LORD has done in your life, I know what He’s done in mine. I can’t tell you how much contempt I feel for anyone who claims to be able to tell absolutely what our Father YHWH ha Elohiym can or can’t do in anyone’s life–especially my own.

        It may be true that God merely gives some people or even most people a “choice” as to whether they should study or remain ignorant. But it may also be true that those who are “called” aren’t given quite the same degree of choice. It may be true that those who are “called” are not merely called to “believe” but also to learn. More, it may be true that those “called” will be compelled to learn, whether they like it and choose it, or not.

        I know for a fact, for I have personally experienced the phenomenon repeatedly over the past 24 years, that the Good LORD guides me to what he wants me to read. I don’t mean that everything I read–including restaurant menus and bus schedules–are brought to me by the Good LORD. I do mean that there are times, even when I don’t want to read, that I find myself mysteriously drawn to certain texts in the Bible or the law or other books. I can’t think of a time when the “compulsion” to read was not rewarded with sudden insight that I attribute to the Good LORD. There have been times in my life when I had the distinct feeling that the Good LORD was pushing my snoot into a book and (figuratively) saying, “Read this, dummy!” I read it and a light came on and all of the sudden, I was saying “Oh, my God! Oh, my God!”

        The Good LORD teaches me. Not every day, not every month, not even every year. But I wait on those moments of education/revelation just like most school boys wait on lunch or Saturday. I can no more “choose” to resist His teaching, than I can resist the compulsion to breathe.

        It may be that the Good LORD hasn’t called/compelled you to learn anything. Perhaps you are truly self-educated. I am not.

        So, when you try to tell me what God can and can’t, will or won’t do, in my life, I regard you as a fool. So long as you’re arrogant enough to say for sure what God can or can’t do about calling a man to learn, you are too ignorant for me to take seriously. You don’t know, you can’t know, all that the Good LORD has done or is capable of doing. To argue otherwise is simply stupid.

        Second, as I understand it, the nation/people called “Israel” in the Old Testament described all of the biological descendants of Jacob/Israel and his 12 sons and two adopted grandsons. The “Jews” were the descendents of Jacob/Israel’s fourth-born son: Judah. Thus, all true “Jews” were/are part of the nation of Israel, but Israel, itself, includes people who were not descended from Judah, but were descended from Jacob/Israel’s other 11 sons (and two adopted grandsons).

        Unless the descendents of Judah were disproportionately prolific, they were and may be, even to this day, only a minority “tribe” within the nation of Israel. If so, all of your complaints about “Jews” are only applicable to a minority (8%?) of those who are of the bloodline of Jacob/Israel.

        What we can say about today’s “Jews” is that they are the one “tribe” descended from Jacob/Israel that’s managed to retain their tribal identity over the past 2,000 years. The Jews have maintained some semblance of self-awareness while the descendents of the other 11 tribes seem unknown, even to themselves. Where are the known descendants of Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin? Where are the descendants of Joseph’s two sons, Mannasseh and Ephraim, who were adopted by Jacob?

        There are theories as to which of today’s nations are or were once primarily descendants from Jacob-Israel who are not Jews. But, so far as I know, they are only theories that may serve the vanity of some nations but do so without proof.

        I’m reminded of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 which refers to those who say they are Jews but are not and are, instead, of the “synagogue of Satan”. That means that in end times (which I believe is fast-approaching) some people who claim to be Jews will actually be evil. But it also means that some people who claim to be Jews in end times will actually be “Jews” (descendants of Jacob-Israel through Judah) and will be against evil and be beloved by God.

        It’s true that some Jews are of the synagogue of Satan–but some are not.

        There may even be people today who claim to be Jews who are not the descendants of Judah, but are descendants of Jacob-Israel’s other 11 sons and 2 adopted grandsons. Such “false Jews” may claim to be “Jews” because they’ve lost track of their own heritage and blood line and “joined” the remaining “Jews” because the Jews are the only remaining “tribe” descended from Jacob-Israel who retained a tribal identity and coherent tribal culture. I’m going to guess that the tribal culture of the Jews was probably almost identical to the tribal cultures of the other sons of Jacob-Israel. If so, descendants of the other 11 sons of Jacob-Israel may find themselves “instinctively” drawn to join the “Jews” and then claim to be “Jews” even though they are not truly descended from Judah but are also not members of the “synagogue of Satan”.

        What’s your solution to that “problem”? What are you gonna do about the Jews who say they are Jews but aren’t descended from Judah, but are descended from Jacob-Isreal? Or is that even a “problem”?

        And, as long as you’re solving all these problems, what about the people who say they are Christians (or Hindus or Democrats, etc.) who are not, but who are no longer aware that they are descended from Judah or any of the other sons of Jacob-Israel. They’re not members of the synagogue of Satan, but they are ignorant of their racial heritage and thus susceptible joining groups and religions that are not necessarily descended from Jacob-Israel.

        Those two verses in Revelation also imply that, since members of the synagogue of Satan can falsely claim to be Jews, members of that same synagogue can claim to be Christians, Hindus and even Democrats who are not really members of those institutions. Do you believe there could be no members of the “synagogue of Satan” in the Christian churches? Well, watch ten or twenty hours of TV evangelists and see if you don’t change you mind. So, Edom, what’s your plan for those who claim to be Christians, but are not and are, in fact, of the synagogue of Satan?

        In the end, Edom, what difference does it make if I absorb or reject all of your alleged “facts” about Jews? In the end, you can’t tell who the real Jews are. You can’t tell who the phony Jews are.

        Yes, you can claim to be able to distinguish between the real Jews and the false Jews “by their fruits”. But that presumes that: 1) the real Jews never do anything wrong (which is absurd; of course they sin); and 2) that you can see all of the “fruits” (conduct) of any Jew that comes on your radar and thereby accurately discern whether you’re dealing with a “real” Jew or false Jew.

        All you can do is bitch about the Jews the same way some Blacks bitch about the Whites. Blacks find it convenient to blame Whites for their own problems. Similarly, you apparently find it convenient to blame Jews for your problems. Both you and the Blacks treat your alleged adversary as an almost mythical force that, like Sherlock Holmes’ Dr. Moriarty, can be blamed for all evil.

        I differ in this regard: I don’t see anyone or any group as responsible for my “problems” (other than lawyers, judges and collectivists). The personal problems I recognize don’t strike me as “problems” so much as “challenges” or even “opportunities”. In the end, I’m not blaming anyone for my “problems” other than me.

        As a result of my tendency to blame myself and take personal responsibility for my perceived “problems,” I don’t have much respect for those who find it necessary to blame some tiny, or even unseen group of conspirators, space aliens or even Jews for their problems. And that disrespect is also directed at those Jews who blame Christians for the Jews’ problems. Everyone is prone to watch TV and blame some other group for their personal problems. I did it myself when I was younger. I don’t do it anymore.

        Today, therefore, I agree with you, Edom, that “by their fruits, we shall know them”. In other words, by their conduct, we know if they are good or evil. Judging people by their conduct is so much simpler than trying to trace everyone’s bloodline back for at least 2,000 years before we can decide how to handle them.

        For example, suppose someone breaks into my home. Do I give a damn if the intruder is a real Jew or a false Jew? Not in the least. If I have a chance to pick up a gun, knife or club I’m going to hurt or even kill that sonofabitch. If I can’t grab a weapon, I’ll probably have to submit to being robbed or even being killed myself. But, whether the intruder is black, white, brown or yellow will not affect my decision to disable or kill the S.O.B. Whether the intruder is Christian, Muslim, atheist of Jew will not affect my decision. I am an equal opportunity kinda guy. I will judge any intruder by his conduct and, given the opportunity, try to put a bullet in his head.

        Very simple. By their fruits, etc.

        So, I just don’t “get” you people who are dedicated to blaming the “Jews” for everything. All you ever seem to do is bitch. I respect Hitler in this regard: He didn’t just bitch about the Jews, he tried to do something. I don’t agree with Hitler but he at least tried to do something about what he perceived to be a “problem”. He put his money where his mouth was. He lost that “bet,” but he at least tried to do something.

        I don’t see that you are “doing something” about the Jews, Edom. From my perspective, all you’re going to do is bitch and try to increase the ranks of those who will join the “Bitch Along with Edom” choir.

        I therefore decline to join your little group. Why? Because you’re nothing but a debating society. You don’t do anything other than argue about “How many real and/or false Jews can dance on the head of a pin?” On a theoretical basis, it’s kind of an interesting debate. But as a practical matter, given that your debate will never result in practical action, it’s a waste of time–at least for me.

        More, if I really believed that all Jews were evil and I did nothing about that evil, how would I later be judged by the Good LORD? How will you be judged, Edom, if your claim that the Jews are all evil is true, but you do nothing about it? How will you explain to God that you knew the source of much of the world’s evil, but you chose to do nothing about that evil other than bitch?

        It may be, as you say, that I am ignorant about the true nature of the Jews. It may be that one day, the Good LORD will hold me accountable for my ignorance.

        But, if my ignorance is wrong and your knowledge of Jews is right, how will you be judged for failing to have acted on your righteous knowledge? Why have you refused to “do something” about the Jews? Are you a coward?

        If I’m to be judged for being ignorant, I suspect that my penalty may be a “misdemeanor”. If you are judged for being a coward, I suspect that your penalty may be a “felony”. If I had to choose between being charged with misdemeanor ignorance or felony cowardice, I’d go with the ignorance every time.

        The point I’m trying to make here, Edom, is that IF you’re right that the Jews are the source of much, most or all evil, your failure to act on that righteous knowledge may condemn you to damnation.

        See Revelation 21:8 which provides a “laundry list” of those destined for damnation. The list includes murderers, adulterers, liars, etc.–but the first on that list are the “cowardly” or “fearful”.)

        If you truly know that the Jews are evil, why don’t you do something about it? Are you afraid? Are you a coward? If so, and if Revelation 21:8 is true, you might be heading for big trouble.

        So, do me a favor and stop trying to persuade me to join your bitching society. Unless the Good LORD prompts me to do otherwise, it ain’t gonna happen.

         
    • EDOMS THORN

      August 11, 2014 at 9:08 PM

      ANOTHER thing/things I neglected to address from your comment.

      DO NOT blame God the Father on you willing ignorance! You can not say, …”He hasn’t inclined me to visit your website”… and then relieve yourself from YOUR willing IGNORance! It does not work that way. I see the PRIDE that you exhibit from many others, that would rather not address these issues. Most just can not admit that they have POSSIBLY over looked something, or even God forbid, have been deceived! Do not be angry with me! I am only trying to get you to give these facts some attention.

      You snidely claim that, …” if I visit your website, I would not “understand” who “SOMEBODY WICKED” is. I would only understand YOUR OPINION of who “SOMEBODY WICKED” is”…
      WRONG! I have provide BIBLICAL and Historical FACTS, that upon a little bit of RESEARCH, it is clear that my observations are based in facts! I do not understand why you find it necessary to belittle me, when you have absolutely NO IDEA what the FACTS are! MY opinions are based on diligent study and research. I do not claim to KNOW it all, but I am pointing to things that most know nothing about because it has been over looked and hidden! I have studied in the Hebrew and Greek. I have research the historical facts concerning the area we call “ISRAEL” today. I have proven the word of God, with the word of God, as WE can see it made manifest in the world today! NOW if you did not think to look at these things, or if you unable to see the relevance of these facts today, that does not make my research unimportant or irrelevant

      Al, my friend, FACTS are facts, are they not?

      LASTLY! I take very strong offense at your misrepresentation of me with this UGLY comment! …”and take a chance on executing some innocent (or even blessed) Jews of Israel as “collateral damage”? “… That is so out of the realm of what I am about. It is also defamatory and uncalled for!
      EDOMS THORN is not a hater or a murderer! I am not a RACIST or a supremacist! I am shocked that you would take such a flippant view of me and what I stand for! This is not a freaking joke, or something that should be treated so lightly, or UGLY! You do appear to owe me an apology. I would have never thought that you would be so offended by my position, than to associate me with such as that! I do hope that that was not an attempt at “CHARACTER ASSASSINATION”!

      I love TRUTH! How about you?

       
      • Adask

        August 12, 2014 at 5:42 AM

        I love not having my time wasted by others.

         
      • EDOMS THORN

        August 13, 2014 at 8:54 AM

        I ask this question of many of you defenders of the “JEWS” and rarely get a response, and when I do, it is not even close to the truth. How does Al Adask answer this? …”What reason(s) were the so called “JEWS” expelled from all of those many Nations?”…

        I will only “waste” your time once more after this.

         
  11. Roger

    August 12, 2014 at 12:20 AM

    Al, you have given an account of who the OLD Testament defines “Jews” and “Israel” to be.

    What importance do you ascribe to the difference between this definition and who the NEW Testament (re)defines “Jews” and “Israel” to be?

    To the extent the definitions of “Jews” and “Israel” found in the Old Testament versus the New Testament are incompatible, which source has priority in your opinion?

     
    • Adask

      August 12, 2014 at 6:55 AM

      I’m aware of the argument that the “Israel” of end times will be the followers of the Messiah. I believe that’s partly true, but I’m not exactly convinced that that’s the whole truth. I.e., when the Messiah warns there in end times there’ll be those who claim to be Jews but are not and are, instead members of the synagogue of Satan, the Messiah implicitly admits that there will also be some who claim to be Jews and really are Jews. So far as I know, the Messiah did not claim that there would also be those who deny being Jews but are actually followers of the Messiah called “Christians”. And if these followers of Christ are the true Israel, does it follow that the the members of the synagogue of Satan are not to be found principally among the Jews but are mostly among the “Christians”?

      There are a lot of things about the Good LORD that I do not expect to understand in this life. That doesn’t bother me. I can’t imagine that any living man could ever fully contemplate the totality of God. I expect to die with more questions than answers. In the meantime, my only job is to see if I can make myself acceptable to the Good LORD. I don’t mean to make myself acceptable by my works, but I do mean to make myself acceptable (hopefully) by both my faith and my service. Maybe I’m doing it wrong. But I understand that I am betting my soul on my ability to somehow make myself worthy to our Father YHWH ha Elohiym. If I’m doing it wrong, I’m still doing the best I can. Perhaps that counts for something. Perhaps not.

      As for the distinction between today’s Jews and Israel, I don’t doubt that the distinction is important to the Good LORD. But, so far, that distinction is not particularly important to me. Why? Because, so far as I know, just because you’re a “Jew” (even a real Jew) you’re not guaranteed salvation. So Jews are bad people. Some Jews are sinners. Some will go to Hell. Likewise, just because you claim to be a Christian is no guarantee that you will be saved. Some “Christians” are bad people. Some “Christians” are sinners. Some purported “Christians” will go to Hell. Some who claim to be of “Israel” are also bad, sinners, and destined for damnation.

      So, what good are the labels “Jew,” “Israel” and “Christian” if no one of them absolutely guarantees salvation and no one of them absolutely guarantees damnation? It may be vital for most to claim to be “Christians,” but by itself, that’s not enough. I agree that being a “Christian” is a vital first step, but I do not believe that all who claim to be Christians will be saved. There’s more to it than claiming be Christian. Just as there’s more to being a Jew than claiming to be one, or more to being of “Israel” than merely making such claim.

      The problem is that, so far as I know, no one can accurately discern between the real Jews and the false ones, the real “Israel” and the false one, the real Christians and the false one. If some of you can tell for an absolute fact, I envy you. I cannot. I regard that distinction as God’s business rather than my own, and therefore I don’t pay too attention to the distinction. Some of you may gasp at my indifference, but in my defense, I’d simply say I’m not a respecter of persons (or at least I’m trying not to be a respecter of persons).

      I get dragged into one of these arguments about “Who are the real Jews?” and/or “Who’s the real Israel?” about once a year. I regard these arguments as idiotic because no mortal man that I’m aware of can absolutely distinguish between the true Jews and the false or the true Israel and the false. Everyone seems to have a theory, but no one has absolute proof. I can get argue with you or “Edom” and I can even learn from you or “Edom,” but in the end, what good will it do me? None of you can absolutely tell the difference between the good Jews and the bad, or between the good Christians and the bad. If you could absolutely tell that difference, then you could tell us who was going to be saved and who was absolutely going to be damned. If you already knew who was and wasn’t going to be saved, why would we still need God on Judgment Day? If anyone already knows who will and won’t be saved, why do we need to still pray or go to church?

      If anyone already knows who will or won’t be saved, what’s the meaning of the Messiah’s statement that “those who stand firm until the end shall be saved”? I assume that “the end” refers to our personal deaths. If so, and if the Bible is true where it declares that we can only be saved IF we stand firm in the Christian faith until the “end” of our individual lives–then it follows that we will not be saved until after we have died. If that’s true, nobody knows whether a living man or woman will stand firm until the “end” and therefore nobody knows or can know whether any living man is or is not yet saved.

      Which, to me, suggests that if only way to know if someone is a real Jew, or a real Christian, or a real member of the people of Israel is to know who has been saved. I.e., if the false Jews won’t be saved, but the real Jews are saved, then the only way to distinguish between the two is by discerning which are are saved and which ones are damned–and that determination won’t be made until after they die.

      OK–you don’t believe any Jew, real or false will be saved? Fine. Then how do we tell the difference between the “real” Christians and the false? If the real Christians are saved and the false Christians are damned, and the determination of who shall be saved is conditioned on whether we each “stand firm to the end” and that determination can’t be made until after each purported Christian dies, it appears impossible to know for a fact if any living “Christian” is “real” or false, because he has not yet met his “end”.

      So, what good are all these labels? None of us (and certainly not me) can accurately discern between the “real” Jews (who will be saved) and the false Jews (who will not be saved). None of us (and certainly not me) can accurately discern between the “real” Christians (who will be saved”) and the false Christians (who will not be saved).

      Again, what good are all these labels to me (or to you) if they can’t be accurately applied at this time? These labels are interesting, even profoundly important concepts, but where’s the real and practical application in this life? The most any of these labels mean is that the person labeled has only a chance to be saved. Therefore, I don’t find those labels to be particularly useful in this life. There are bigger and more important issues. And therefore, I don’t wish to spend much time debating the distinctions between these labels. And therefore, I really get aggravated when I allow myself to be drawn into another idiotic argument about how many real Jews (as opposed to false Jews) can dance the bugaloo on the head of a pin.

       
      • Roger

        August 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM

        Thanks for the reply, Al.

        BTW, I wasn’t trying to draw you into an argument about good and bad Jews, etc.

        I wanted your opinion on which source, Old Testament or New Testament, has priority when their definitions of “Jews” and “Israel” are in conflict, since Paul the Apostle draws our attention to this conflict several times.

         

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