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A Respecter of Persons?

10 Jul

Tragedy, Comedy

Tragedy, Comedy are “masks” or “personae” that we where IN RELATION TO others. (Photo credit: Phil W Shirley)

“A Woman Created in His Image” posted a comment on this blog.  I started to reply.  The reply grew and even began to touch on a few insights I hadn’t previously considered.  I thought my reply might be interesting to the general audience for this blog, so I’m posting my reply as an “article”:

 

Although there are multiple definitions for “person,” I understand the term to usually signify a man or woman in relation to some other man, women, men, women, institution, etc.  More, when you see one “person,” you must see two.  A “person” does not exist in isolation, but always in relation to that other man, woman, institution, etc.  Thus, if I’m a “person” in relation to you, then you are a “person” in relation to me.  Insofar as we both participate in a certain relationship, we are both “persons” whenever we engage in that particular relationship.   When we do enter into that relationship, we are expected to wear a “mask” or “persona” of the “part” that we are playing.

For example, a sergeant and a general in the Army are each a “person” in relation to each other.  When one or the other leaves the Army, that relationship ends and they are no longer “persons” in relation to the Army and to each other.  Of course, they might agree to a new personal relationship as friends, or employer-employee–but their relationship and resulting “personality” within the context of the Army would be ended.

If I recall correctly, the Bible declared that God and/or the Christ are not “respecters of persons”. In broad strokes, this declaration appears to mean that God does not “respect” the distinctions between persons.  He doesn’t care if you are a General of a private.  He doesn’t care if you are an employer or an employee.  He doesn’t care if you are a husband or a wife, a master or servant, a freeman of a slave, rich or poor.  We will all be judged as individual men or women based on criteria that do not recognize the superiority or inferiority of our “persons” (relationships with other men, women, institutions, fictions or even collectives).

I suspect that the words “respecter” and “persons” (as used in the Bible) need some research.  If God is not a “respecter of persons,” who/what is?  If God does not “respect” persons, does He even “see” “persons”?

•  I’ve read in the past that all relationships are fictions.  How’s your relationship with your spouse? How’s your relationship with your kids?  How’s your relationship with your boss?  How’s your relationship with the U.S. or the IRS?  We go through life significantly fixated on our “relationships”.  But, in fact, relationships have no mass, no size, no color or taste.  Relationships have no physical existence.  Relationships exist only in our minds and therefore are fictions.  Some of our relationships are legal fictions (citizenship is probably one example) that can be enforced by law.  Other relationships are imagined to exist without legal authority. True love may be an example.  Trust in your neighbor or even your community may be another.

Whether we are or are not in a particular relationship would seem to be a voluntary choice.  Am I, or am I not, “in love” (a relationship) with Abigail?  I can’t make Abigail love me.  Abigail can’t compel me to love her.  To have that relationship, both parties must agree to participate in the same relationship. I love Abigail, and Abigail loves me.  But if one party is sees their relationship as true love and the other sees the relationship as mere friendship (or even as merely an opportunity to exploit the other “person”), there’s going to big trouble when the truth comes out that the same “relationship” was not agreed to by both parties.

More, our commitment to relationships is always subject to change.  It may be that I and Abigail were both in love last year, but this year Abigail no longer loves me.  If we’re involved in a marriage relationship, we’re probably headed for a divorce—exactly the kind of “big trouble” that tends to take place whenever one “person” party to a particular relationship decides to unilaterally withdraw from that relationship.  The other party, suddenly stripped of a relationship on which he had relied may be hurt or even enraged.

My point is that if a relationship is a fiction (legal or “private”), that relationship/fiction can only exist if both parties agree to the “terms” of the relationship.  Both parties must consent to participate in (and be bound by) the relationship/fiction.  Because relationships are fictions, you only should able to enter a relationship by voluntary act.  Likewise, you should be able to unilaterally end a relationship by voluntary act.

This is not say that no relationships can be compelled.  For example, the Jews might not have voluntarily consented to be treated as “untermenschen” by the Nazis, but the Nazis compelled that relationship.  That involuntary relationship inspired anger, fear, guilt and could only be maintained by coercion and violence.

An involuntary relationship (like “involuntary servitude”) should not be lawful in a civil society.

 

•  Insofar as two persons exist in “relation” to each other, and insofar as that “relationship” is a fiction, it appears that each “person” is necessarily a fiction–or at least a component of a fiction.

A fiction is a lie.

The Bible declares that Satan is the father of all lied.

Is Satan the father of all fictions?  All legal fictions?  All relationships?  All “persons”?

When the Bible declares that God is not a “respecter” of “persons” does that mean the God does not respect or even recognize fictions because 1) they don’t actually exist in the physical universe created by God (they are not God’s creations); and 2) they are illusions and lies and thus the spawn of Satan?

 

•  If “persons” are fictions, and God is “not a respecter of persons,” is it possible that whenever we are charged as a “person” for an offense, that the remedy may be found through some sort of “freedom of religion” defense in which we deny (as per our faith?) being a “person” living in a relationship/fiction that is a lie and therefore spawned by Satan?  (How’s that for an overly long, 64-word sentence?)

In other words, if you want to try me for some crime (not an “offense” which might be only against persons/fictions), prove that I’ve caused actual damage to another physical man or woman created by God.

However, if you want to try me for the “offense” of violating the express or implied terms of my purported standing as a “person” existing “in relation” to some other person, buzz off.  I deny that I have voluntarily entered into the status of “person” within the alleged relationship/fiction.  I deny that I have voluntarily entered into any relationship to the alleged plaintiff.  I deny that I can be compelled to enter into the status of “person” within the alleged relationship/fiction/spawn-of-Satan, without violating my freedom of religion and subjecting me to the “establishment” of the state religion for “persons” rather than “people”.

In a sense, if I refined and actually made such argument, part of that argument would be that the “person”/”relationship” were fictions and therefore lies; that I can’t lie without violating my faith; that the government can’t compel me to lie without violating my freedom of religion; that a government that attempted to persuade me to consent to a lie (legal fiction) would be suborning perjury.

 

•  (I started to research “respecter of persons” and it turned into a mass of info that I’ll have to digest later and present when time and energy permits.)

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19 Responses to A Respecter of Persons?

  1. Nelson Dock Trouble

    July 10, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    When the Bible speaks of not respecting persons (eg Proverbs 24:23), person means face, consistent with the Etruskan meaning of “mask”. A person is the physical representation of a living being, but may also refer to a legal representation. When a man refers to himself as a person, the proper meaning is “fool”, as in “state your fool name”. Fools are sometimes called dickheads, as is consistent with one meaning of person being “human genitalia”.

    The opposite of foolishness is wisdom, which is associated with knowledge of life and with deity. The western concept of deity is based on Babylonian Elohism, which identifies “God” with the Elohim of Genesis1, in contrast to the Yahwist view of Abraham. Elohim is a plural term which can encompass beings of both gender, while the Yahwists worshipped a singular male deity. The Yahwists never referred to their deity as Elohim, but rather as the singular Elohykm (eg Lev 18:2)

    Satan means adversary, and the identity of that adversary depends on context. The satan of the book of Job is not the same as the satan of 1 Ch 21:1 and 2 Sam 24:1.

    Law looks to the intent, or the intangible. The fact that something is intangible does not mean that it is a fiction. Love is intangible, and it is as real as anything in life.

     
  2. palani

    July 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Hobbes most probably was not a witness to these events so I suspect he is operating in the realm of hearsay here but he suggests in Leviathan …
    The true God may be Personated. As he was; first, by Moses; who governed the Israelites, (that were not his, but Gods people,) not in his own name, with Hoc Dicit Moses; but in Gods Name, with Hoc Dicit Dominus. Secondly, by the son of man, his own Son our Blessed Saviour Jesus Christ, that came to reduce the Jewes, and induce all Nations into the Kingdome of his Father; not as of
    himselfe, but as sent from his Father. And thirdly, by the Holy Ghost, or Comforter, speaking, and working in the Apostles: which Holy Ghost, was a Comforter that came not of himselfe; but was sent, and proceeded from them both.

     
  3. Anon4fun

    July 10, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Nelson Dock Trouble said: “Elohim is a plural term…”

    Quite so, but any scholar on the subject will you tell this does not mean the Bible refers to God as a plural being. It is well known by those who have studied the subject (as opposed to mere propaganda hacks of the Zeitgeist variety) that ancient Hebrew also used the plural form as of way of invoking an abstract principle. For example, “abot” (fatherhood) is the plural from of “ab” (father). Note that the plural form “elohim” was often paired with verbs in the singular form, when in reverence to singular God. In addition, because angels are also elohim, we would expect the word to often show up as plural anyway.

     
    • Harry

      July 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM

      So, it would be one God in three persons. The one God wears three masks and acts out three distinct parts of His one everlasting nature or super-natural being. The Creator then , when it come to the man he has created, does not respect the character/person that one man is playing out in this world any more than He respects the character/person that another man might be playing out in this world. Every man is playing out multiple parts in this grand play we call life.

      Each man could be characterized as many DIFFERENT characters/persons DEPENDING on the CONDITIONS and CIRCUMSTANCE and the SITUATION in which he finds himself. Each of us puts on and takes off these masks multiple times each day depending on the situation. When speaking to one’s father we would put on the mask of son and act out that part in the play of life. When speaking to one’s wife we would put on the mask of husband and act out that part in the play we call life. Some men put on the mask of judge and play out that part. When we are brought before this man playing the part in the PERSON of judge we need to know who we are, what we are and where we stand in order to play out the CORRECT PART in RELATION to the judge when we interact with this other character playing the part of judge.

      If we know who we are, what we are and where we stand then we need to tell the judge so he knows with whom he is dealing and if he has political or judicial jurisdiction over this PERSON. He might wonder, is this a “man” standing before me made in his Creator’s image or is IT the manner of man defined as a “natural person” aka “human being” who is defined as the highest form of animal in the primate family which includes apes and monkeys. To me it is all a matter of “status” and “estate” and one must declare his status and estate and belligerently claim all the rights and immunities that belong to a man of the status of those who were given dominion or complete ownership of the earth, and individually allocated a small piece of it to hold without or outside the society or government having any legal ownership or right therein. Since we are not to steal we know that some things are yours and some things are mine and we must stake our claim to that small piece of land that was allocated to us and which now is ours.

      All men are created by their Creator equally free and independent (independent means self-governing) and we are to govern ourselves under the “Law of Liberty.” It makes no difference to Him if you are a king or a lowly laborer. He does not respect the person of the man and He treats all men equally. So when the time of accounting comes one’s person will not be a consideration. The only thing that will count is where you stand and in Whom you have placed your trust. If you have placed your faith, hope and trust in yourself and the “gods many” in and of the worldly governments then you will not be able to stand in His day of judgment.

      His people are today being destroyed for lack of KNOWLEDGE, not because of some overpowering government of men. The remedy is for one to become knowledgeable of the truth that will not only set you free (i.e. throw open the jail cell door of ignorance) but actually MAKE you free (i.e. take you by the scruff of the neck and drag you out of that jail cell and into the land of knowledge and freedom that the Lord your God has given you as an inheritance).

      Many of His people today have unknowingly in ignorance given up their birthright inheritance/estate for a mess of secular worldly servitude pottage. How sad. The only remedy I can see is to repent of this mistake and step up and claim our inheritance which appears to me as being held in a trust for us.

      A “constructive trust” is a trust RAISED by construction of law, as distinguished from an express trust. It is WHENEVER the CIRCUMSTANCES of a TRANSACTION [i.e. buying some thing such as a piece of land] are such that the PERSON who takes the LEGAL ESTATE in property [such as a feudal tenant] CANNOT also ENJOY the BENEFICIAL INTEREST [in that estate] WITHOUT necessarily violating some established principle of EQUITY, the COURT will IMMEDIATELY RAISE A CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST and fasten IT UPON THE CONSCIENCE of the legal owner {aka feudal tenant], so as to CONVERT him into a TRUSTEE for the parties who IN EQUITY are ENTITLED to the BENEFICIAL INTEREST [i.e. the real man created by his Creator and born on the land free and self-governing].

      I suspect the title to the land is allodial although in technical terms it is referred to as “fee simple” if owned by an individual. However, one’s status effects one’s ability to own property absolutely because “status” also mean “estate.” One’s status signifies the CONDITIONS or CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH one STANDS with respect to HIS property. How do you stand with regard to your property is the question? Are you a feudal tenant federal citizen or are you sui juris with all the rights of a freeman or allodial proprietor? Speak up. How is anyone to know your status unless you tell them. If you talk, walk and act like the highest form of primate then no wonder the powers that be consider you to be such a “man” aka “natural person” aka “human being” aka “feudal tenant?”

      I also suspect that 14th amendment citizens of the United States federal government, because they are COMPLETELY SUBJECT to the its jurisdiction, are of a status of persons who cannot ENJOY THE BENEFICIAL INTEREST without violating some established principle of EQUITY such as those who are in the CONDITION of voluntary servitude cannot ENJOY the beneficial estate or equitable interest in property and therefore his master will put his land in trust and make him a trustee until the real owner shows up. The real property tax is a tribute tax that an inferior subject pays to a superior sovereign.

      Again, do we not KNOW that “The diligent shall bear rule but the slothful can be under tribute.

      What shall we do?

       
  4. Kai

    July 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    OMG…this whole physical existence is maya…including all the thoughts/words of it :)

    thought seduced our hearts into physicality as I understand it currently…that is like big bang on esoteric level…

    back to OM :)

     
  5. Timmy

    July 10, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    This is very interesting, fresh work. Definitely worth investigating further…

     
  6. Greg

    July 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    Well i was going to send this video link directly to Al but this seems to be a good place for it , actually ill put 2 here some of you may dismiss this immediately but consider Chuck Misslers Holographic universe (youtube) and also that this reality is a small part of a larger reality (11 dimensions) . I would like to invite you to Tribulation now.org or like it on facebook very interesting topics ! #1. http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/the-archons-alien-invaders-from-space/ #2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWEuWRPFg90 Really people you gotta see this.

     
    • Adask

      July 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM

      Pretty weird. Little or no evidence. Primarily just opinion or even imagination.

       
  7. Mike

    July 10, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Well, you have a heavenly imagination. It feels as though, if I see myself in relation to another I am seeing through the eyes of something less than god. We are one and not separate as the lesser part of our existence would like us to believe and behave accordingly. It is possible that is why the world appears as it does. Maybe when the enlightened one said I am the Father are one, he was really on to something.

     
  8. Greg

    July 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    now this is pretty weird ! http://youtu.be/FiMFuki3GzY

     
  9. Ben

    July 11, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Mr. Adask; Satisfactory assessment of the “personage” issue.

     
  10. pop_de_adam

    July 11, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    The opposite of faith is not doubt, it is certainty.

    If everything is contemplated by a creator, would it not follow that everything including the creator were considered by the creator. By this reasoning everything you, me, the things you like and dislike, good and evil are of and by the creator. Even things such as heaven, hell, and purgatory would only exist at the creators pleasure. I once read a passage that said to the effect that even ministries are engaged in deceit, they sometimes arrogantly believe they can take on the mantle and judgement of the creator, as since either the creator allowed or tolerated the concept of heaven and hell, and ministries indulged or withheld the enjoyment of that which is solely the creators domain to consider. If and when this all comes to an end, it is likely those placed into either catagories of good and evil will likely have the same consideration as everything is of this creator.

    Those sad puppy dog eyes, which may make you tear up, are you and me, but also the eyes of god.

    Pardon if this seems rather disjointed as it is a work in progress, everything is.

     
  11. Yartap

    July 11, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    “ And the Lord had respect unto Abel and his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.” Genesis 4:4-5.

    “And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.” Exodus 2:25.

    “For I (God) will have respect unto you (children of Israel), and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.” Leviticus 26:9.

    As I read the scriptures, God had respect unto Abel and not unto Cain because of his sinful nature. God warned Cain about this, but reassures him that he to can receive the blessing, but we know what happened. So, Adam and Eve’s next son, Seth, carried forward the blessing. Next, we see that God’s covenanted people as a “group” receive His respect. We know that God does not have respect unto an individual as stated in Romans. He warns us, also, that we, just like Him, should not have respect unto a person in judgment. But rather, God has respect unto a covenanted group (children of Israel). As a group, God tells us of His blessing for us and He warns us of punishments placed upon “the group” for not obeying Him. We are in that time (again) of not obeying Him, so, we all suffer.

    I am afraid what we are falling victim to: Is our fight to not be classified as others within “this state.” The government and powers that be try to use and define every word possible (man, woman, individual, person, citizen, natural person, other animals, and etc.) which describes a man or woman, so as, to place them under their control or jurisdiction.

    Alfred writes: “If God does not “respect” persons, does He even “see” “persons”?”

    The answer is YES! God sees each of us. But, God will punish the covenanted people during their time upon earth and all of His people will suffer for the majority and government(s) that dis-obeying Him. His covenanted people are to be a blessing to the world. If He brings punishments to His people, as a group, then the world will suffer, too. Upon one’s death, then each will be judged by God according to the way each’s life was lived; and He will not have respect of persons.

    Cain’s question to God, “Am I my brother’s keeper?”, as it relates to God’s covenanted people as a group takes on a greater meaning. As long as we stay grouped, we will be our brother’s keeper; and we will all suffer from God’s promise to us. But, the Bible and history has shown over time, the return to the blessing of God has come to His people when they “separated” and/or “came out of” the evil which brought the punishments upon His people.

    As far as the statement that a “relationship” is a “fiction,” I would respectfully disagree. I think I understand where Al is trying to go. But, my relationship with God is real and not a fiction. My relationship with my enemies are real and not a fiction. My relationship with my government may be real or it may be an “unknown” fiction (deception)! I must open my eyes and choose which.

    We may call our “Strawman” or a “corporation” a fiction, but the use of a strawman is an unknown contractual agreement, because a person, who replaces Rights with privileges, by unknowingly accepting the privileges and status quo from an unknown agreement. But, as long as we accept the government’s, so called, “benefits and privileges,” we will remain trapped.

    I do not equate “fiction” as a “lie,” but rather and because, the term, fiction, should be defined as “known by all” as “un-true.” I would rather equate the term, “deception,” as a “lie.” This is what we suffer.

    I like this saying:
    “It’s not what you don’t know, that hurts you so; it’s what you know, that IS NOT SO.”

    In other words, today we believe and accept lies as fact.

    We are warned that even the elect and learned will be deceived. Further, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge,…: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God,” Hosea 4:6.

     
  12. Greg

    July 12, 2012 at 5:07 AM

    http://youtu.be/N3_09Ir0VNE Who is the Deceiver?. Believe it or not, the world is about to go through some massive landscape changes, the Age of Grace is coming to a close, and the Great Tribulation is about to kick off, any day now… Come to Christ before His Grace runs out! After this, the only way to to Heaven will be to prove you love Christ by being beheaded. Don’t deny His name, even unto death, and whatever you do, Christian or not, DO NOT TAKE THE RFID CHIP, or any other ‘convenient’ technology in your hand or forehead, not even if it frees you from debt and gives you temporary ‘super powers’. No matter what, reject this chip.

     
  13. Jeff D.

    July 12, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    I stumbled upon something interesting on Wikipedia while researching Copyright Law. Their article on that subject was accompanied by a picture of a Boston, Massachusetts based newspaper from 1790 which included a publishing of a Congressional Act titled “Laws of the United States”. It has numerous references to person, persons and citizens of the United States, with regards to Copyright Law. The text is somewhat difficult to read, but legible if you can decipher that old-style press font.

    Here is a direct link to that picture in the highest resolution available:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Copyright_Act_of_1790_in_Colombian_Centinel.jpg

     
  14. T.

    July 13, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    A person is seen [think: on paper], a voice is heard.

    If a person[a] is a mask: Can a mask be heard?

    If a mask can be heard: What is hearing it/listening to it? The eyes or the ears?

    : http://bible.cc/ezekiel/12-2.htm: “Son of man, thou dwellest in the midst of a provoking house: who have eyes to see, and see not: and ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a provoking house. “

     
  15. Richard

    September 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Those things which are unseen “appear” – as in your fiction’s appearance in court i.e. the bank.

     
  16. Brian Hamill

    March 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    I would say that a “person” can have their rights limited, and represents the man or woman within the context of an agreement, having agreed to limit their own rights. “Person” can be legally defined (limited), whereas “people” cannot.

     

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