“When Should You Shoot A Cop?”

30 Nov

Larken Rose

Larken Rose

Larken Rose has struggled against the government for a decade or more.  His resistance initially focused on the IRS and caused him to be imprisoned for several years.

Since his release, his determination to resist government oppression is not only undeterred, it’s enhanced.

Here’s a video by Larken that may make you squirm.  The video’s title (“When Should You Shoot A Cop”) is beyond any concept of political correctness.  The title is shocking and poses a question that most Americans are afraid to ask let alone consider.

I suspect that Laken’s question may inspire fear in most Americans.  I also suspect that if our reluctance to confront the question is inspired by our fear of the police and “official oppression,” then our reluctance is evidence of how important it is that the question be openly asked, considered and answered.

•  Alexander Solzhenitsyn was a Russian writer, dissident and activist. He helped to raise global awareness of the former Soviet Union’s gulag and forced labor camp system. He was imprisoned under the Stalin regime from A.D.1945 to A.D. 1953. He subsequently wrote and published several books including The Gulag Archepelago and One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich .  His writings were often suppressed in Russia, but in A.D. 1970, he received the Nobel Prize in literature “For the ethical force with which he has pursued the indispensable traditions of Russian literature.”

Receiving the Nobel Prize for his “ethical force” was somewhat disingenuous and even degrading.  They ostensibly awarded Solzhenitsyn the Nobel Prize for writing.  They should’ve given him the Nobel Prize for Courage because courage, far more than a mere talent in writing, was the essence of Solzhenitsyn’s literature.  It didn’t take a pen to write Solzhenitsyn’s books.  It took balls.

In The Gulag Archepelego, Solzhenitsyn wrote:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

When Larken Rose asks “When Should You Shoot A Cop?,” he’s simply rephrasing the questions posed by Solzhenitsyn as to when the Russian people should’ve resisted Stalin’s tyranny.

•  The title of Larken’s video (“When Should You Shoot A Cop”) is so shocking that I expected his video to rely on shock value rather than reason.  I was wrong.  Larken has produced an excellent, well-reasoned and persuasive video.  The authorities will despise Larken’s video, but they won’t be able to argue against it.  I’m impressed.

But I’m not impressed by the quality of the video as much as I am by Larken’s courage.  It takes real nerve to risk producing and publishing this video.  By doing so, Larken invites government attention that could be painful or even lethal.  He may also invite consideration as a candidate of Congress in four years or so.

I’m impressed.  It takes courage to consider painful questions.




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28 responses to ““When Should You Shoot A Cop?”

  1. Anon4fun

    November 30, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    More to the point, when should you shoot ALL cops? Because you can’t shoot just one. The cop you are dealing with at the moment has effectively unlimited backup should the need arise.

    “So, basically, start a civil war. If the police are overstepping their bounds, bring it all down, man. There are no remedies short of the complete collapse of civil society. Just bring it all down, man.” This anarchist message brought to you by the Ford Foundation, the same people who invented La Raza and various other astroturf revolutions.

  2. PatriotOne

    November 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    1) Could it be that people generally do not want to apply force upon one-another? Do any of us really want to fight?

    How can a (Wo)Man get GovCo to leave him alone? Can he ask kindly; “Mr. STATE OF ______ would you please stop demanding I purchase your permission to be alive?”

    (STATE OF _____ is factually a man wearing a costume acting as if he is the STATE, this is fact because the STATE is nothing more than words on paper or an opinion, words on paper cannot do anything to any thing.)

    After asking kindly ‘will the STATE OF _____ go away and leave the Man alone’ will the STATE OF _____ say “”I’M just doing my job”?

    How can a Man stop the STATE without pointing a gun at the ACTOR/STATE, having asked the STATE to go away – the STATE refusing.

    How can a man peacefully require the STATE to leave him alone?

    2) The people have been trained to believe that the fiction STATE is a real touch-smell-taste-see-hear’able thing. They have never been taught the truth that the STATE is a screen play animated by ACTORS carrying guns.
    The people think that there should be someone to ensure no ‘sins’ are committed. Was gambling outlawed because of Christian values or Baptist values or Muslim values or NAZI values, or was gambling outlawed to ensure a government (ACTORS) has a monopoly on gambling? Which came first freedom or values or monopoly?

    3) The people were told that “all Men are endowed by Their Creator…” even though the writers of that opinion held Men as SLAVES. Today in 2012 A.D. so called ‘Americans’ will demand that people migrate “LEGALLY”, as though there is an endowed ‘American’ that grants migrants permission to live free like an ‘American’.

    Why should any (Wo)Man need to seek permission to live in a free country? Which Man did God assign to choose who can and who cannot live at any place on earth? If the USA is the ‘land of the free’ why is every Man required to prove He has permission to be on the free-mans land?

    4) A child born today has no choice but to fight or submit. His father will show him how it is easier to submit and pay off the thief than it is to resist the thief. The father implanting into his son his belief in the STATE.

  3. James Barnes

    November 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Amen PatriotOne. Larkens video states it all very simply. Either you stand up and become a man with a spine or you bend your back and be ridden like the spineless animal you are. It’s plain and simply a choice in the free Republic called America.

  4. shekinah419

    November 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Reblogged this on servehiminthewaiting.

    • Flatwood

      December 17, 2012 at 10:40 PM


      YOU are adorable,AND,precious !!!

  5. NDT

    November 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Cops are simply the enforcers of a bigger system. Until you have disconnected yourself from that system any attempts to resist it are self-defeating.

    • Yartap

      November 30, 2012 at 8:45 PM

      NDT, are you trying to say, “Seek out and remove the Ones at the Top, and not the Cops?” That makes sense to me.

      • NDT

        December 1, 2012 at 1:40 AM

        Yartap, it would make sense if the civil system actually worked for the common good. I make the distinction between the civil system and common law, but I also realize that most people don’t understand the difference. My point is that unless you know the nature of what you’re fighting you can end up wasting your time or worse.

    • Mr. Anomilus

      December 24, 2012 at 10:00 AM

      And what if “the system” attempts to hold you captive, against your will?

      You may divorce yourself from “the system”, but “the system” may not wish to divorce itself from you.

      Whether you regard yourself as a slave, or not, so long as you are in America, or on planet Earth for that matter, you are living on THEIR plantation, as far as “the system” is concerned, and, at the very least, rent is owed for that “privilege”. The ostensible “owners” of the plantation can’t have a bunch of renegade slaves running around on THEIR plantation as if they are free men, living rent free, or all the slaves might get uppity and stop paying their rent. They just cannot allow that to happen, if they can at all help it.

      Much as you and I might wish it to be otherwise, there are no lawful or legal remedies when the entire system has become nothing but a highly organized and highly corrupt crime syndicate used to secure and perpetuate the plantation. This leaves either accepting your enslavement or resorting to forceful resistance as the only choices of action.

      • PatriotOne

        December 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM

        “there are no lawful or legal remedies when the entire system has become nothing but a highly organized and highly corrupt crime syndicate used to secure and perpetuate the plantation.”

        As Alfred has written, He was charged $25k per day because He neither deprived or injured or damaged any Man or any thing. Yet GovCo demanded that He purchase permission to associate or contract or pursue happiness and that He be punished for failing to purchase permission before He associated or contracted or pursued happiness’s.

        Adding to the demands of the STATE, most other men want to see your “permit” before they will do business with you. The sheeple believe the STATE to be so preventing Man to be so.

  6. Anon4fun

    November 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    Yartap, good point.

    Whoever is behind the government corruption responsible for the growing police state is who we need to go after. And successfully doing so requires the police to be with us, not against us. Therefore these corrupting elements consider it essential that the people and the police view each other as enemies. Hence the huge volume of social engineering spam along the lines of this video.

  7. Mike

    December 1, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    It seems out grand parents and great grand parents had their birthright stolen by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. The amount of information available from then to now is vastly different so I can not blame them for our corporate police state. It is hard for me to accept a society where the only option explored is violence.

    I can fault anyone that chooses not to look at our current situation and those that also choose not to participate in a healthy outcome for humankind. Violence is not a wise choice if there is another option. Non-cooperation seems the most applicable remedy. Live peaceably, participate as little as possible in their systems, love your fellow man, love god and forgive those that trespass against us for they know not what they do. I don’t think we can spiritually evolve using violence and nature seems to show us an evolve or die paradigm.

    I hope I will be long gone when the knock comes but if I’m late in leaving, I’m ok with whatever the outcome, its not really in my hands anyway right?

    • Ritchard

      December 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM

      Good post ,MIKE

  8. applescence

    December 1, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    Patrick Henry had it correctly: Give me liberty or give me death, EXCEPT, the Japanese knew when they invaded China that there is no EXCEPT: Win or die TRYING. No “give me death”, as that may be submittal. Larken Rose has done a remarkable job of pointing out the obvious (that most prefer to pretend doesn’t exist, out of fear,I suppose), and you, Alfred, have done the world a service (again!) by pointing out the obvious (uh, now, duh…) that there is a point at which (what used to be “good guys”) are now the bad guys, and must be dealt with as such, however, as with the New York officer who bought boots and socks out of his own pocket for a homeles man has demonstrated, this cannot be done blindly or without consideration, as not ALL cops are bad guys, some actually became cops to PROTECT the public, and they actually bought into the story that they are there for OUR benefit (which is actually why they are there), so such actions as Larken has pointed out may be necessary, I am sure Larkin would be the first to point out that such action must be discretionary, dependent on the situation, and as Larkin frequently stated in the video “when all else fails”. Well done. Thank you Alfred.

  9. mike

    December 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM

    Thanks AL for another chance to expose open minds to English Gematria. I really had to dig deep to come up with this one. For grins I just figure this doesn’t really relate to the mark so much as to the timing. So in answer to your question, “When Should You Shoot a Cop ?” My answer would be as I wave my hand from the back of the class. So sorry I am a little Johnny joke fan.

    A Diamondhead Pig.

    Badge-Toting Pyschotic Shoots Up Home, Gets Off Scot-Free by William Grigg.

    Interestingly enough my good friend Jerry just winged him. I had never before entertained the thought of shooting a cop until I saw the very same Fred Ensminger in another similarly stupid incident. Where many false charges where made to ” run his bond up run” per the direct order of Pat Mahoney. They carried the poor fellow away and caused all these false charges to be entered into computers at the jail office during booking, the clerks office for court and the bondsmans office for bond and again in my computer for all the winning motions.

    The riddle is, Is that five class d felony charges or four for computer fraud for each false charge he made against my friend ?

    Great Job Al


  10. Ritchard

    December 1, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Great piece as usual, thanks Mr. Adask. I think , for me, the most chilling statement is yours Al,” By doing so, Larken invites government attention that could be painful or even lethal.”
    This is common knowledge for those paying attention. Do any of the police have any morals ? Except may be the cop who bought the shoes and would he still be a moralist when confronted with a grandmother resisting improper arrest. Just stop and think about it,saying the wrong thing can get you killed by those whom you thought were there to protect and serve and they will be exonerated. What has happened to our country?
    A comment on what MIKE posted; he is right withdraw from the system and quit supporting it . Violence against an overwhelming force is suicide.
    I think that if police and officials identities we public knowledge that would go along way to keeping them moral and more in line with where the people want our country to go , fear trumps money

  11. James Barnes

    December 1, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    This guys stuff makes a lot of sense. I’m going to see what happens with it. 3 2 hour Videos watch all 3 parts great info.

  12. Buck

    December 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    As a quick aside, has any one else noticed a rise in sexual assault committed by cops against women. I hear quick blurbs on the radio, then the story dies. Recently it was two CHP in Los angles, then i heard two separate assaults here in Montana. Its sounds more like an occupying force, not a civilian law enforcement.

    As a young man of 15 i was arrested for drinking with friends in a park. Later at the holding cell i exchanged words with on of the cops, i was handcuffed he started bouncing my head off the brick wall. They took me to the hospital four cops at my side the hole time. The doctor asked what happened, one cop piped up and said, he fell down in an altercation. The doctor look back at me and asked, is that what happened? The cops all leered at me, knowing i had to ride back with them, i answered with a smart tone ‘ya thats what happened’.

    The lesson i learned: if one cop is crooked, the “good” ones will cover the bad ones. Also it may be wise to fight before you are in cuffs.

  13. Buck

    December 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Mike, i disagree. Violence made America free. We have abandon violence, now it is not free. Peaceful resistance will get you: maced, beaten, arrested, beaten again (when they are grinding your face in the ground, they will say “next time do what the pooolice say ” then charged with a felony, likely ‘assault on a peace officer’ you will no longer be able to own guns. Then it will be harder to defend yourself against the next assault.

    But i do get your point.

  14. Anon4fun

    December 7, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    James Barnes: “This guys stuff makes a lot of sense. I’m going to see what happens with it.”

    I’m especially going to see how things turn out for the numbnuts who watches one of these videos and then shoots a cop. This will take us beyond the rhetoric of agents provocateurs and into the world of concrete reality.

  15. James Michael

    December 24, 2012 at 7:28 AM

    Numbnuts? So are you saying that all of us whom are tired of the treason and tyranny by the men sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution for the united states of America are numbnuts? If I were a man who wants violence I would’ve shot the monkey who falsely arrested me in Tishomingo Mississippi with the Desert Eagle I had under the seat. If he had pulled a weapon on me without cause I probably would have. There comes a point, where a line in sand has to be drawn and we are very, very close in my country with the terrorist cops, corrupt as hell courts and absolute godlessness of all the self proclaimed honorable government actors. If you had studied law for 6 years like I have, then watched Carls information and understood it. You may have an idea why I said what I did. His information is in fact spot on. and by a man with a spine can be used to great effect against these criminals. Treason is a very serious charge and so is taking a city or counties charter for abuse of power. Why not try learning instead of arbitrarily flinging poo.

  16. Lex Mercatoria

    December 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    I think a more pertinent question is “is it possible to shoot a cop?” That is to say, what IS a cop? When one figures out the answer to that one will have the answer to Mr. Rose’s question.

  17. James Michael

    December 26, 2012 at 6:42 AM

    Well Lex he is in fact just another man.

    • PatriotOne

      December 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM

      a “COP” is a man wearing a costume acting as if it/COP is obligated to serve protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America(?).

      If the above ^^^ statement is not truth, factually what is a COP?

      • Lex Mercatoria

        February 6, 2014 at 8:37 PM

        A “cop” is not a man/woman but rather the role the man/woman wearing the costume plays. BTW, I think they take an oath the U.S. Constitution not the Constitution of the United States of America–big difference!

    • Lex Mercatoria

      December 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM

      As Shakespeare said: “All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players;…”

      There’s the role of “cop” (a fiction) and the actor, a man *playing* “cop”. The role only exists in one’s mind and the actor is testing you to see if you perceive his role as real. If you do you’ve just given the actor man jurisdiction over you.

      The solution not to accept fiction as reality and notice them of your state of mind by (a) telling them you don’t consent or (b) state you are something they can’t recognize, e.g., a man made in the image of God.

      If the actor proceeds against you at that point he’d be acting out of character, dealing with you mano-a-mano, and The System(tm) only supports him in his role. At that point, if need be, one would be justified in apply physical remedies.

  18. Yartap

    January 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Al, this article should be also tagged as 2nd Amendment.

  19. erin

    January 3, 2014 at 3:11 AM

    good stuff, thx


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