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Wagging the Dog

14 Oct

Janet Yellon--a Woman for All Seasons? [courtesy Bing Images]

Janet Yellon–a Woman for All Seasons?
[courtesy Bing Images]

English journalist Ambrose Evans Pritchard recently wrote an article for the Telegraph entitled “Rejoice: the Yellen Fed will print money forever to create jobs”.  That article discussed the appointment of 67-year old Janet Yellen as the next Chairman of the Federal Reserve and the economic consequences that were likely to follow.

According to Evans Pritchard, under Yellen’s rule,

 

“The FOMC [Federal Open Market Committee] will continue to print money until the US economy creates enough jobs to reignite wage pressures and inflation, regardless of asset bubbles, or collateral damage along the way.”

Note the relationship between the currency supply and more jobs.  It is presumed that by increasing the supply of currency (printing more fait/paper dollars), the Fed can “create enough jobs” to cause an economic recovery.  But is that presumption true or false?

“No Fed chief in history has been better qualified. [Yellen] is a glaring contrast to Alan Greenspan, a political speech writer for Richard Nixon, who never earned a real PhD (it was honorary) or penned an economic paper of depth.

“Janet Yellen’s husband is Nobel laureate George Akerlof, the scourge of efficient markets theory. She co-authored “Market for Lemons,” the paper that won the prize.”

 

Fascinating.  Ms. Yellen and President Obama should have a lot in common.  Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace prize for being half-black.  Janet Yellen helped her husband win the Nobel Prize for economics by being intelligent.

 

“Currently vice-chairman of the Fed, she was a junior governor from 1994 to 1997 under Greenspan, and then president of the San Francisco Fed from 2004 to 2010. She was head of Bill Clinton’s Council of Economic Advisers from 1997 to 1999, when she handled the Asian crisis. You could hardly find a safer pair of hands.”

Yellen’s previous experience within the Federal Reserve and government may be greater than any previous appointee to the office of Federal Reserve chairman.

 

“Note that she confronted Greenspan head-on in 1996, pushing for pre-emptive rate rises to choke inflation and wean the economy of cheap credit.

“Transcripts show that she clashed with New York Fed chief William Dudley in December 2007 over the risks of subprime mortgage defaults, which is telling since Dudley (ex Goldman Sachs) was supposed to be the official with his finger on the market pulse.”

 

Yellen is no pushover.  She’ll even fight the “big boys” when she thinks she’s right.

Thus, it appears that Janet Yellen is superbly qualified by intelligence, experience, education and courage to assume the office of Fed chairman.   She’s not a mere political appointee. She’s genuinely qualified to run the Federal Reserve.

Hmph.  How bizarre.

When was the last time you can recall when someone occupied a position of real power in our national government who was truly qualified to hold that office?  Yellen may quite probably become “the smartest guy in the room”.  Her Fed chairmanship may become something fascinating to observe.

 

●  According to Evans Pritchard, Ms. Yellen has “backed QE [Quantitative Easing—the printing of an almost endless stream of fiat dollars] to the hilt, fighting a chorus of amateur alarmists who claimed that inflation was poised to take off. She was again proved right. Core inflation in the US is currently hovering near a half century low. The greater danger is still deflation.”

We can therefore expect Fed Chairman Yellen to continue to support QE in the near future.

 

“She tracks jobs. Her lodestar is the ‘non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment’ (NAIRU) . . . . the Fed is committed to tapering QE to zero once the jobless level reaches 7% (and raise [interest] rates once it hits to 6.5%).”

OK—Yellen will presumably continue to support QE until the unemployment rate falls to 7%. She’ll begin to raise interest rates when unemployment reaches 6.5%.

She is therefore expected to rely on the presumption that increasing the supply of currency in circulation the Fed can create jobs and cause unemployment to fall.

 

●  Before we dissect that presumption, let’s first ask “On whose unemployment numbers will Yellon rely?”  The Obama administration’s numbers (that claim unemployment is already down to 7.2%)?  Alternative numbers provided by sources like Shadowstats.com (which claim that the true, current rate of unemployment may be over 20%)?  Something in-between?

If Yellen’s “lodestar” is truly the unemployment rate, the answer to “On whose unemployment numbers will she rely?” may determine whether her tenure as Fed Chairman will be something effective or pathetic.  If today’s 7.2%t “official” unemployment rate is a lie, and Yellen relies on that lie, her administration will necessarily fail to resolve the current economic crisis and she’ll become a laughingstock.

On the other hand, if the true unemployment rate is closer to 20%, and Yellen uses that rate of unemployment as her cornerstone, her tenure as Fed Chairman may be marked by great conflict (with the government and their “official” rate of unemployment but perhaps also by an honest contribution to solving our economic problems.

We know she’s highly intelligent. We know she’s experienced.  We know she’s willing to fight.

What we don’t yet know is whether she’s honest.

Most observers agree that the official rate of unemployment (7.2%) is a lie.  Virtually everyone agrees that the real rate of unemployment is much higher—perhaps 10%; perhaps even 23%.  If Yellen accepts the 7.2% lie, there’s no way that her administration will be able to help the economy.  If Yellen relies on higher unemployment numbers, there’ll be spectacular controversy but there might also be some degree of economic recovery.

Thus, the most important characteristic for the next Fed Chairman won’t be intelligence, experience, education or guts.  It’ll be honesty.

 

●  So far, it appears the Yellen is committed to the presumption that QE (increasing the currency supply) can cause job creation and reduced unemployment.

But can QE work?  Or is QE a matter of the “tail” (currency supply) wagging the “dog” (unemployment rates)?

 

●  Whenever unemployment rates rise, fewer people have jobs, fewer people are being paid and fewer people have access to credit.  As a result, there’s less currency in circulation.  Less currency causes a diminished demand for goods and services, lower prices and an economic recession or depression.

Note the causal relationship:  High unemployment reduces the amount of currency in circulation which helps cause an economic recession.    Thus, a falling currency supply can be an effect caused by rising unemployment.

On the other hand, falling unemployment (more jobs) will normally increase the supply of currency.

Note the causal relationship:  falling rates of unemployment cause more jobs and more currency in circulation.  Just as rising unemployment can decrease the currency supply, falling unemployment can increase the currency supply.

 

● Factors other than changes in the unemployment rate can also affect the currency supply.  However, insofar as the Federal Reserve is required by law to maintain: 1) maximum employment; and 2) stable prices (the absence of inflation or deflation)—the Federal Reserve (and, soon, Janet Yellen) tend to focus on the relationship between unemployment rates and prices.

The Fed’s QE policy presumes that by increasing the currency supply, they can create jobs, cause unemployment to fall and thereby cause the economy to recover.  In other words, by treating the effect (a currency supply shortage) they can cure the cause (rising unemployment).

So far, however, QE’s effect on the economy has seemed marginal.  According to official statistics, unemployment has fallen from 10% to 7.2%.

But, again, according to alternative sources like Shadowstats.com, real unemployment remains over 20%.  As measured by true unemployment rates, four years of QE hasn’t yet caused an economic recovery.  Four years of QE may have postponed a “Greater Depression” but it hasn’t ended the Great Recession.

Therefore, there’s good reason to wonder if it’s even possible for QE (increasing the currency supply) to cause falling unemployment and thereby generate an economic recovery.

We know that rising unemployment can cause the effect of a reduced supply of currency in circulation.   But does it necessarily follow that by increasing the supply of currency (printing more fiat dollars), the Fed can cause the effect falling unemployment rates?

Are the unemployment rate and currency supply caught in a one-way, cause-and-effect relationship where rising unemployment is always the cause and a falling currency supply is always the effect?  If so, it shouldn’t be possible for increasing the currency supply to cause a significant fall in unemployment.

Alternatively, are unemployment rates and currency supplies caught in a inverse relationship wherein, if either one goes up, the other must go down?  Are unemployment rates and prices like two ends of the same teeter-totter?

 

●  These questions are important because their answers may tell us whether QE (printing more fiat currency) can really cause an economic recovery.

If the relationship between unemployment and currency supply is always a one-way, cause-and-effect, then QE can’t work.  I.e., if unemployment is always the cause and falling currency supply is always the effect, then the Fed can’t precipitate an economic recovery (reduced unemployment) by increasing the currency supply.

In other words, the “tail”—the effect of increasing the supply of currency in circulation—can’t ever “wag the dog”—diminish the real cause: rising unemployment.

Instead, the “dog” (real unemployment rates) can wag the “tail” (currency supply).  The real cause can precipitate the real effect.  The effect, however, can’t alter the actual cause.

On the other hand, if the relationship between unemployment and the currency supply is inverse (like a teeter-totter), then by raising either, we could cause the other to fall.  If unemployment rises, the supply of currency falls.  If the supply of currency rises, unemployment falls. Therefore, by controlling the supply of currency, the Fed could control the unemployment rate.  By increasing the currency supply, the Fed could reduce the rate of unemployment.

The Fed, and Janet Yellen, apparently presume that the relationship between unemployment and the currency supply is not an immutable, one-way, cause (unemployment rate) and effect (currency supply).  Instead, the Fed’s QE is based on the presumption that the relationship between employment and currency supply is complex but fundamentally inverse.

If the relationship is inverse, then it follows that by merely controlling the supply of paper dollars (which are cheap to print and easily added or subtracted from circulation), the Fed can control something as massive, tangible and important as the rate of unemployment—and the tail can wag the dog.

 

●  Determining the nature of the relationship between unemployment and currency supply is critical to both understanding the cause of the Great Recession and also to assigning blame for the Great Recession of A.D. 2008.

If the unemployment/currency-supply relationship is inverse (teeter-totter), the Great Recession was caused by an insufficient supply of currency in the economy prior to A.D. 2008.  Thus, the Federal Reserve caused the Greater Recession by failing to print enough paper dollars.

If the unemployment/currency-supply relationship is a one-way, cause-and-effect, then the cause for Greater Recession of A.D. 2008 was the loss of jobs and wages caused by the national government’s commitment to global free trade, higher taxes, reduced tariffs, and willingness to ship American industries (and jobs) to foreign countries.  In this case, the President and Congress can be blamed for the Greater Recession.

 

●  Trying to decipher the nature of the fundamental relationship between unemployment and currency supply is difficult.  That analysis is further confused by the possibility that under classical economics (where our money is gold or silver), it may well be that the relationship between the supply of gold in the economy and the rate of unemployment is direct (rather than inverse or even one-way, cause-and-effect).  By “direct” I mean a two-way, cause-and-effect relationship.   Either “end” of such a “direct” relationship could sometimes be a cause; either end could sometimes be an effect; but both ends would rise or fall together.  I.e., increase the number of jobs and you’ll increase the amount of gold in circulation; increase the amount of gold in circulation and you’ll increase the number of jobs.

However, in “modern” (fiat, debt-based currency) economics, it’s unclear if the relationship between unemployment and currency supply is always inverse or always one-way, cause-and-effect.  Sometimes, one explanation seems true; sometimes the other.

It’s even likely that the real answer in “modern” economics isn’t “either/or” so much as “both”.  In other words, it may well be that the Greater Recession was caused by both: 1) the national government’s decision to send our jobs to third-world countries; and 2) the Federal Reserve’s failure to pump enough fiat dollars into the economy.

If so, the next questions are:  Which cause and which actor was predominant? Was the Great Recession caused primarily by loss of jobs precipitated by the national government’s global free trade?  Or was it caused primarily by the Fed’s failure to pump enough paper dollars into the economy?

But even if the national government and the Federal Reserve were both responsible for the Great Recession, can we escape the Great Recession by only increasing the currency supply?

If there are two causes for the Great Recession (sending jobs overseas and reducing the currency supply), but we only address one of those causes (currency supply), can we expect to end the Great Recession?  Or, is that recession likely to drag on and on until we also bring our industries and jobs back to this country?

For me, the answer seems obvious:  No matter how much currency the Fed injects into Wall Street, Main Street, or the economy, the Great Recession will drag on until the government restores our productive jobs.

More, if the Fed’s manipulation of the currency supply isn’t the complete answer to the Great Recession, then all attempts at “recovery” that don’t include higher tariffs and less global free trade will fail.  The Great Recession will last as long as our government continues to support global free trade.

 

●  Look around.  What do you see?

The Fed has pumped trillions of fiat dollars into our economy over the past four years.  A few percent of Americans who were already rich have grown richer.  The majority of Americans have grown poorer. The middle class is disappearing.  For most Americans, the Great Recession persists.

The real unemployment rate is almost certainly still in double-digits.  The effects of Fed’s increase of the currency supply have seemed almost insignificant.

Doesn’t that suggest that the “tail” (increasing the currency supply) can’t really “wag the dog” (create jobs and reduce unemployment)? Doesn’t that tell us that the unemployment/currency-supply relationship is not inverse? Doesn’t that imply that the predominant cause of the Great Recession is not too few paper dollars, but rather too few productive jobs?

If so, the Fed’s fundamental premise (that it can control unemployment rates and thus the economy by controlling the currency supply) is false.  The tail can’t wag the dog.  If so, no amount of freshly-printed paper dollars can recreate our lost jobs and QE can’t cause an economic recovery.

If so, pumping $85 billion per month into the US economy and/or Wall Street banks is a colossal waste of time and currency. Instead, the solution to our economic malaise is to abandon global free trade, reestablish high tariffs and cause industries and real (productive) jobs to relocate back into the USA.

 

●  It seems increasingly doubtful that the Fed’s “monetary tail” can effectively “wag” the real economy.

Nevertheless, Janet Yellen will try to do just that.  Not because she’s brilliant, but because she has no other option.  She can’t cause industries and jobs to return to the US.  Only gov-co can do so.  Her only real power is manipulate the currency supply—so that’s what she’ll do.

In fact, manipulating stock, commodity and gold prices on the US and global markets is another example of government’s “wag the dog” mentality and fundamental presumption that by manipulating the “tail” or economic symptoms, they can control the real economy.

The Powers That Be seem convinced that they can control the economy and the American people by merely controlling our economic indicators (effects).  They seem to believe that the world runs entirely on subjective concepts like “public confidence” and appearance rather than tangible reality.

But does it?

Can reality be denied forever with nothing more than subjective “happy talk” and by printing more paper currency?

I can’t see how.

We’re caught in difficult times based on a reality (loss of productive jobs) that’s too tangible to be made to vanish with cheerleading, bedtime stories and the manipulation of economic effects.  Reality will ultimately overcome subjectivity.   The tail may seem to wag the dog for a while, but ultimately the dog will wag its own tail—and may even bite—good and hard.

I suspect that Janet Yellen has volunteered to take responsibility for the manipulating “tail” just before the “big dog” (reality) shows who’s really in control of the tail.

I respect Ms. Yellen’s credentials, but I doubt that anyone’s credentials could be sufficient to cope with current economic problems by merely manipulating the currency supply.

The differences between fundamental causes and fundamental effects will soon be seen and undeniable.

Buckle up.

 
 

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45 responses to “Wagging the Dog

  1. palani

    October 14, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Try as they might they cannot deviate from the rule of law that perpetuities are forbidden unless the topic is CHARITABLE TRUST for which status the Federal Reserve cannot claim. Hence 99 years from the creation of the Fed it evaporates which would place said event at the end of 2013. It is gone. History. In a few months. No matter who is in charge. So expect a new fictional money creating entity to appear on the horizon in a few months. It might even look like the Fed. Might even be called the Fed. But it will still be a new creation.

     
  2. Jim on Oregon

    October 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Al, your insights are very thought-provoking and maybe even profound. Helps me grasp that which has always been “mysterious” to me. Of course, the whole fiat-money scam is a mystery! Thank you!

     
  3. Adrian

    October 14, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    Hey guys ,this is the story of the wandering jew in the Land of OZ.
    The jews are using this magic wand to control the People.
    Remember,there is no money around just a medium of exchange.
    Now THEY are using electricity to promulgate it.
    MONEY=ELECTRONS=People’s time and energy=POWER over People=NWO

     
  4. Yartap

    October 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Al,

    If there is one thing that is true in economics, it is this:

    “If the money supply is increased, without being based upon population increase, then the economy will ABSORB the new money with increased prices (inflation).”

    This is why the stock market goes up. It absorbs the inflation. The rich keep up with inflation and the poor decline in wealth.

    I agree with you that free trade is one of the demises of our country. We think in terms of nation and the PTB think globally with no loyalty to any nation, just their profits (the love of money).

    If the real truth were told, Protectionism is a true success in our nation. It created jobs, competition, businesses, government revenue and reduced prices and cost. But, global bankers and corporations brought an end to it.

    If we study the U.S. Constitution, we see and understand that our national government was to mainly derive it revenue from foreign sources with excise taxes and tariffs. And as Thomas Jefferson said of the taxing system that the rich would pay the taxes on goods imported and the farmers or common man would be “free” from any taxation. But, with the advent of free trade, lower tariffs and the income tax the burden was placed upon the back of the common man. We know from scripture that God rejects and abhors a man who will not take care of his own children. This is what our gov-co has done to us.

    But, our Founders adhered to the scriptures where it concerns taxation. This is found in Matthew 17:24-26, where it says:
    “24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, “Doth not your master pay tribute?” 25 Peter said, “Yes.” And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, “What thinkest thou, Simon? Of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? Of their own children, or of strangers (foreigners)?” 26 Peter saith unto him, “Of strangers.” Jesus saith unto him, “Then are the children free.”

     
  5. Adrian

    October 14, 2013 at 1:50 PM

    If we were to be a Nation,we could create our own jobs here. Keep all imports out,exept what we cannot produce ourselves.
    As for taxation,tax only the profit derived from retail commerce.
    Eliminate any form of welfare to get rid of the useless eaters.
    Get rid of career polititions,preachers and propagandists.
    Establish a National Code of Laws based on common law.
    Establish a National system for prices.

     
  6. Peg-Powers

    October 14, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    A very few strangers/foreigners now rule over us, by hook and by crook. They are writhing with joy because they are jointly sitting on the NWO throne. And I don’t care if one wears a skirt or not. Have you looked up their names and connections on wikipedia? Just begin with Yellen; Akerlof; Joseph Stiglitz; Lawrence Katz; Robert Solow; etc.

    These duplicitous strangers are the “WOLVES” waiting to devour us and our children right here within our own country. Nothing but a pack of wolves in sheep’s clothing. Are we fooled? Are we fools? We have been warned. It is this small pack which declares us and treats all of us (millions of us) as “strangers and foreigners”, as “animals”, as “economic slaves”, and “enemies of the state” here in our own beloved country.

     
  7. Michael

    October 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    The trick is, print more money, but don’t tell anyone, pay the debt that is owned with the extra printed money, but the problem is the cat is out of the bag, so by printing more money will deflate the value of the us dollars, and yes raise inflation so as the central bank will call the US dollars worthless at some point, crash the US economy, crash the stock market, have the US president call martial law, fight an uprising like in Syria against the American people and the central bank gets their one world currency, a one world government, the next step towards a cashless system. Its one way to go for broke and give the elites what they wanted all the time, total control of all nations economies.

    When a nation puts In God we trust on their money, its the same as saying’, of the God of money that they worships, and love, and bow down to, his name is Satan their God, And they don’t even know their money was named for their God Satan.

    So when a total collapse comes, know that Satan has come to collect his IOU’s and his agents are from the central banking system, the police, the military, and your Governments.

    Adrian’ you forgot your tell them that your ideas come from the NWO plan, and the UN depopulation agenda.

    This shows how twisted people have become and tricked into excepting the NWO and the UN depopulations plans to fix the nations economies after a total crash.

    Well done Adrian’ Satan would be proud with the like’s of your thinking.

    Adrian’ don’t put your foot in your mouth’ replace it with a grenade, and pull the pin. You will not be missed. Anyway who left the door open for children to come in to play, but then again we need to know how the blind think.

    Adrian, sorry’ a seeing eye dog will not help you here either.

    Don’t love thy brother Adrian, but show him the door to hell and give him a helping push as well.

    Need I say more’ I don’t think so.

     
    • palani

      October 15, 2013 at 7:28 AM

      @ Michael “The trick is, print more money, but don’t tell anyone, pay the debt that is owned with the extra printed money”

      The trick is to recognize the U.S. dollar as a military script. The military, to control black market operations, will announce one day a change in the color of the script and you will have a short period to turn that script you hold in or it becomes worthless.

      The way this works is that new script is printed (one for one) for each of the script that is presently being circulated. Make the script color pink instead of green and give everyone a window of 1 week to exchange old for new. At the end of this period there will be a mountain of pinks that have not been ‘redeemed’ with old. This mountain of pinks then go to paying off debt (as the debt does not exist if nobody comes in to actually claim it).

       
      • Yartap

        October 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM

        palani,

        Sounds like a great plan (pink currency for green currency) to pay off the debt, if I understand it right. There’s just one BIG problem: Only $830 billion Green Federal Reverse Notes exist; and most of that currency is outside the U.S. To pay off the goberment’s debt at interest with FRN’s of any color or electronic ledger is a mathematical impossibility.

         
      • palani

        October 16, 2013 at 5:25 AM

        “most of that currency is outside the U.S.”
        The U.S. is contained in a square area essentially 10 miles on a side. If all this currency were located within the U.S. the streets would likely be papered 10 feet deep and garbage men would refuse to haul it.

        “Only $830 billion Green Federal Reverse Notes exist”
        Mexico in the 90’s had an exchange rate of 3,000 pesos to 1 U.S. dollar. After they got their financial affairs re-arranged the exchange rate became 10 pesos to 1 U.S. dollar. In other words it took 300 of the earlier peso to equal 1 of the new peso. I am assuming contracts written under the old peso were not extinguished with the same number of new pesos. So why not print 1 pinkback for ever 300 greenbacks in existence and rewrite all contracts (by legislation)? If there are presently $830 billion greenbacks print only $2.76 billion pinkbacks. If there is $16 trillion in debt there is now only $53 billion in pinkback debt will remain. In practical terms a Starbucks coffee would go from $4 in greenbacks to $.13 in pinkbacks. A CEO making $500,000 annually in greenbacks would suddenly start making $1,666 in pinkbacks.

        I

         
      • Yartap

        October 16, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        Hi palani,

        The pink currency replacing all green money still does not pay off the gov-co’s debt. The new $53 billion pink currency debt at interest is still a mathematical impossibility to pay off.

        The problem gov-co has is that it takes in $2 dollars and spends $3 dollars, meaning it has to borrow $1 dollar at interest. The goberment’s interest payments are greater than most goberment programs. Over time, the gov-co will take in $2 dollars and spend $2 dollars in interest. This is what a debt usury system does over time not only to the government ,but also to us.

        To solve the problem, the gov-co must stop over spending and stop borrowing.

         
    • Adrian

      October 15, 2013 at 12:40 PM

      The NWO it’s been around for a long time.The People who lived or are living in America,never
      understood THEIR game.Americans have been used to do THEIR dirty game for a long time.
      You are right about one thing: metaphorically speaking, GOD=SATAN.
      THEY have a monopoly on this medium of exchange.
      THEY control the public thru IT.
      If you all were better educated in science and technology,and not religion,we wouldn’t be in this situation today.
      Religion is the undertaker of humanity.

       
      • Yartap

        October 15, 2013 at 9:43 PM

        Adrian,

        The greatest minds in science and technology have not figured out USURY. Even the science of economic is a false science, only used to confuse the public.

        I will not disagree that religion has, in this day, failed the masses; but the Holy Scriptures have not failed. Our problems are all spelled out in the Holy Books of the Bible, which science and technology have not done and will not do.

        Remember: Science, technology, governments, media and religions are all controlled. But, I encourage you and all others to grab hold and read wisdom from the Scriptures on a personal bases. Then, when faced with religious doctrines, you can weed out what is false and what is true by seeking out the truth from the wisdom of truth. Thus, establishing your own beliefs and creating your own personal religion (Whatever you believe – that is your religion).

         
      • Tony

        October 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM

        Hi Yartap,

        You wrote:
        “but the Holy Scriptures have not failed. Our problems are all spelled out in the Holy Books of the Bible”

        I agree, but I think the above could sure use some elaboration. Jesus said in John 17:3 that eternal life is knowing the one true God and Jesus whom He has sent.

        Well, some know God as One who determined who would be saved and who lost -and- determined the lost (and therefore evil and pain) would exist eternally (read: staunch Calvinism). Some folks look at the OT history of the Jews and when it is written that God commanded them to execute even all the children (can you imagine thinking that “knowing Jesus” is consistent with putting your sword through thousands of young boys and girls?) is compatible with their conception of deity.

        I for one have come to believe that the Jew, on average, is the most depraved demographic this earth has ever seen and God “chose them” in the same manner He especially looks out for the prodigal son. I further believe the OT includes the conception of deity of this depraved people, but where God superimposed that conception with a true conception of who He is. Such as:

        2 Samuel 14:14 NKJV
        For we will surely die and become like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again. Yet God does not take away a life; but He devises means, so that His banished ones are not expelled from Him.

        Song of Solomon 8:6-7a NKJV
        6 The Shulamite to Her Beloved Set me as a seal upon your heart, As a seal upon your arm; For love is as strong as death, Jealousy as cruel as the grave; Its flames are flames of fire, A most vehement flame. 7 Many waters cannot quench love, Nor can the floods drown it.

        Does God really “not take away a life?” Is His love something that cannot be put out? Really?

        My main point is that there is so much theological pluralism among those that profess their beliefs stem from the Bible that the statement is practically empty.

        The Book is highly concealed, but it is being unsealed, even as we speak.

        Blessings,

        Tony

         
      • Yartap

        October 17, 2013 at 8:19 AM

        Hi Tony,

        Tony I do understand how you and Adrian have a conflict with scriptures and teachings. We must realize there is such a thing as false teachings of religious natures. Like you my faith and beliefs were shaped by others teachings. It was not until I took on the task to read and to study the scriptures that I realized I had been deceived with false teachings. I don’t know any other words, but “practice” by re-reading and “prayer” for understanding to describe the task also.

        God has said that He will reveal His words to you in “HIS” time, not yours. I have found this to be true with me. I have read scripture over and over without understanding, then one day, God revealed the meaning. Remember, Jesus spoke in parables. The gates of hell are wide and the entrance to heaven is like the eye of a needle, few will make it. Good people, who go to church and believe every word of their preacher, do not receive their approval for God’s reward of eternal life. But, those who “truly” seek Him, and believe/follow Him and His word will receive. Let me give you an example of misunderstanding and confusion using your words:

        You said, “Jesus said in John 17:3 that eternal life is knowing the one true God and Jesus whom He has sent.”

        You said “eternal life” which is God’s reward. But the actual scriptures say “life eternal” which has a different meaning. In John 17, Jesus is praying to God and was saying that everyone will know God and himself “forever” or “eternally” for life after Jesus mission is finished. Is this what you read? If just knowing God and Jesus give us the reward of eternal life with God, then the devil and his demons have it made, because the scriptures say they know God and Jesus. Careful reading and re-reading truly pays off.

        As far as God’s will, His commands are for His purpose, for He is SOVEREIGN over all. He will have mercy upon those He wishes to have mercy, and reject those He wishes to reject. He will chastize those He loves. My body and soul are for His use and for His purpose. As Proverbs says, man thinks himself wiser than God, so we fall victim with our misconceptions of deity. What is my duty to God?: Ecclesiastes 12:13-14. What is required of me?: Deut. 10:12-14. What is my stumbling block?: My belief in Jesus.

        Tony, I read from your words great misconceptions about the “Jews.” If any thing the Old Testament teaches, we must understand that God’s chosen people were not obedient to God over and over again; and He did not destroy them.
        First, the good news, God did not chose the “Jews” as His “chosen people,” please never use the word Jew has His chosen people, this is incorrect. God’s chosen people were the “Israelites” or twelve tribes of Israel.
        Second, the Jews of today come from a time when the Israelites were mixed with others. The history of the OT teaches us that Israel was divided into two separate kingdoms and became the House of Israel and the House of Judah (read 1st Kings 12 and 2nd Chronicles chap.10&11 repeats).
        Third, we learn that the “king of Israel” came to battle the king of Judah and the king of Judah got the king of Assyria for help. And the Assyrians took the House of Israel (10 northern tribes) into captivity (read 2nd Kings 16). It must be noted that 2nd Kings 16:6 is the first time in the Bible that the word “Jews” is used.
        Fourth, in 2nd Kings 17, we learn of the start/beginning of modern Jewish religion, when the king of Assyria replaces the people of the land and returns the priest of the Israelites to teach the new people of the ways of God. Now we have non-Iraelites, who will later become “Jews.”
        Fifth, some 300 years later, we have the House of Judah captured and removed by king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. And we are taught that upon Judah’s return, Nehemiah warns the true people of the Hose of Judah (true Jews) to not have anything to do with the not true Jews (modern Jewry).
        Fifth, we see the House of Judah return, but not the House of Israel. But, God divorced the House of Israel (Jeremiah 3:8 and Hosea 1:6). It is the House of Israel that become know as the “lost” or “lost sheep” which are scatter among the nations. Now, read the divorce laws at Deut. 24. Jesus said that he came to seek and save that which was lost. But how is he going to do this? Read Paul at Romans 7:1-4 for how Jesus did this. Verse 4 is the reason for Christ’s death and being raised from the dead to redeem the lost back to God. Remember, the new covenant was made with the House of Judah and the House of Israel only (Hebrews 8:8 and Jeremiah 31:31-33).

        I hope this helped.

        Blessing to you, Yartap.

         
    • Tony

      October 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      Michael,

      For one who professes such a lofty level of discernment…

      You wrote:
      “Adrian’ you forgot your tell them that your ideas come from the NWO plan, and the UN depopulation agenda.”

      Adrian wrote:
      “If we were to be a Nation,we could create our own jobs here. Keep all imports out,exept what we cannot produce ourselves.”

      A pillar of the NWO plan is the demise of all national sovereignties. Adrian begins by referring to a nation’s sovereign RETENTION. His statement of imports is absolutely contrary to the NWO plan.

      1 Corinthians 8:2
      2 And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know

      I really don’t know who you really speak for.

      Tony

       
  8. Julie

    October 15, 2013 at 6:12 AM

    In addition, the Fed, and Janet Yellen, apparently presume that EVERY living American is motivated by money. My attitude is: Why fight the beast and feed it too? Many have ceased to participate. Many won’t comply/become accomplices. No matter what GAME the 584,848 private corporations that comprise what they our calling the “government” are playing, the odds are pre-stacked AGAINST the People. It’s a STUPID game and I will not play it. And I will not “WORK” no matter now much fake money they throw at me. It’s MY BAT and MY BALL and I quit.

     
    • Doug

      October 16, 2013 at 4:39 PM

      I quit 30 years ago. I have been blessed for doing so. I’m with you all the way. We can’t finance these murderers in good faith. I won’t comply with any of their insanity. Killing babies ain’t my idea of freedom. The U.S. has lost its moral compass to such a degree that they’ve started killing us too.

       
    • Adrian

      October 16, 2013 at 4:58 PM

      Hey Julie,Adrian here. Did you study the book I recommended to you?
      Here is another interesting one: The Ancient City by Numa Fustel de Coulanges,is on PDF also
      on the net.
      The right education is the answer for understanding.
      Do not despair,hope comes with understanding.
      Stay away from those who hide behind the jewish bible.
      A priest is not a toiler,is nothing but a parasite.

       
      • Julie

        October 17, 2013 at 5:08 AM

        Indeed, Doug, though I am a recent “quitter” compared to you, I’ve seen nothing but surprisingly positive results. Once I walked away from the game, everything I had previously thought I required to survive just fell away–those things were part of the game and actually had nothing to do with my life at all. It was EXPENSIVE to be a slave! It turns out that freedom really is FREE…Putting pencil to paper, I found that my JOB was the single largest household EXPENSE we had. It was costing me twice as much to work as it was costing us to live in our house! …as crazy as that sounds….Why fight the beast and feed it too?

         
      • Julie

        October 17, 2013 at 5:18 AM

        Thank you, Adrian–yes I have. Not finished however. There is a lot of material of interest there. The facts presented do, however, line up well the the attitudes I already hold–so thanks for the reinforcement. I will look for “The Ancient City”. I appreciate what you are doing here.

         
    • Doug

      October 17, 2013 at 5:33 AM

      A final thought for all to consider: We’ve been instructed to accept fraud from birth. It starts with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and grows into belief in greater frauds like the validity of fictional entities such as corporations that are formed to maximize greed and prevent personal liability. Or, the belief in promises to pay (FRNs) when in fact it’s known ahead of time that there is NO INTENT to ever pay because it’s an impossibility to pay a debt with a debt.

      Just say “NO” to fraud. (Some call it legal fiction, but a rose by any other name is yet a rose).

       
  9. john.bernays

    October 15, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    not a friend ofJew Haters! Youe Low Life Persecution of Jews reveals your KKK, Lynch Mob Mentality.

     
  10. Adrian

    October 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    We should be realistic about our thoughts.The jewish bible is talking about Utopia.
    Those who created the “book” were con-men and psychopaths.
    Thru out the ages people have been falsely educated by the jewish bible in order to be manipulated
    and exploited.
    In particular,America has a lack of education into reality.
    This blind obedience into “Government” and Church has kept America into this condition of slavery.
    Liberty comes thru reasoning into reality.
    NWO wants to create a One World Church/Government.
    Most of the People alive today are marching towards IT, their destiny, without even knowing .
    There is hope thru change and action.

     
  11. Anthony Clifton

    October 17, 2013 at 6:07 AM

    Thru out the ages people have been falsely educated by the Jewish bible in order to be manipulated
    and exploited. [Talmud printed 500AD]

    Some folks look at the OT history of the Jews and when it is written that God commanded them to execute even all the children (can you imagine thinking that “knowing Jesus” is consistent with putting your sword through thousands of young boys and girls?) is compatible with their conception of deity.

    Prove all things….how exactly do Khazar “Proselytes” to Talmudic Judaism…time travel back to Genesis 49 or Deuteronomy 32 ?

    Just sayin’ – Israel – {12 Tribes/Company of nations} cannot be….so-called “Jews” !

    http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/for-the-last-time-jews-are-not-a-race/

    the LOST SHEEP of the House of Israel cannot be so-called “Jews”….

    In Zephaniah 3:9 – http://biblehub.com/kjv/zephaniah/3.htm

    A PURE language is mentioned…

    when Zephaniah was written how many so-called “Jews” were there at that time…

    and where were they ? ?

     
    • Tony

      October 17, 2013 at 9:48 AM

      Point taken, Anthony. I should have been more careful. However, a major point remains, in my estimation. That being that folks cite the Bible, but the theological pluralism among its professed adherents is vast. One example being the idea that the one true God’s character is consistent with ordering the massacre of entire peoples.

       
      • Anthony Clifton

        October 18, 2013 at 6:38 AM

        and if those who “God” said to put to the sword later turn into the “Jews”….?

        who did what wrong ….

        just sayin’

        http://buelahman.wordpress.com/

        ….which one of Joseph’s brothers was the “Jew” ?

         
    • Doug

      October 19, 2013 at 6:04 AM

      Just sayin’ – Israel – {12 Tribes/Company of nations} cannot be….so-called “Jews” !

      Everybody knows that’s true … don’t they ?

       
  12. Adrian

    October 17, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    Guys,lets be realistic,the idea of GOD was planted in some human minds by other humans.
    The whole concept is hearsay.The “word of GOD” originates with the man.
    The whole concept is fatalistic: ” I am alpha and omega,the beginning and the end”.
    There is no room for continuity here. It presents a metaphysical view of reality.
    Humanity is doomed.
    However ,this is not the case.If we liberate ourselves from this mystical dogma,we can achieve
    true liberty.
    The promoters of the NWO have THEIR motto: “IN GOD WE TRUST”.
    Now you see who we are dealing here with?
    Be very careful about your beliefs and actions.You may not like what you will discover in the end.
    We all know that our planet Earth will not last forever.
    If we a pessimistic,we accept GOD,if not we look forward towards new horizons.
    The NWO is just a scarecrow ,we are the real thing.

     
  13. Doug

    October 22, 2013 at 3:32 AM

    Adrian, let’s actually be realistic. The notion that the universe which operates upon specific laws of balance and motion is the result of a big bang is an idea that has been planted into the large empty space between humanity’s idiots ears.

     
  14. Adrian

    October 22, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    The “big bang”concept is nothing but a theory.The universe is constantly evolving and devolving.
    The “big bang” theory came out of modern religion.It is an occult dogma.
    A more dangerous thing is the concept of GOD.A man made concept.
    The universe is real,GOD is not.
    I think therefore I am,justify man’s existence.
    Just because man thinks of GOD,does not make GOD real.

     
  15. Anthony Clifton

    October 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    could it be the language is only now approaching a level of expression that allows a small
    window of opportunity to discuss this phenomenon ?

    seeing’s as how the Jewish “State” manifests NO BLESSINGS for anybody…

    least of all -http://biblehub.com/kjv/zephaniah/3.htm

    GOG & MAGOG so called “Jews”….from Khazaria.

     
    • Doug

      October 23, 2013 at 7:17 AM

      The reductionists make God a type of Superman or Supreme being that allows some limited measurement, when God cannot possibly be comprehended by humans.

      When one considers matter one must consider anti-matter as well and in doing so one must admit that there is more “not there – there” than there is “there- there” … I guess what I’m trying to say is that we (humanity) really know very little. I’m not a religious zealot nor am I at all involved in organized religion. I do find intelligent design supporting the notion of God’s existence. That’s not to say some form of evolution isn’t at the same time possible.

       
    • Doug

      October 23, 2013 at 7:26 AM

      Anthony, I have a question. If God made a set of promises to Abraham that would be granted to his descendants through Jacob / (Israel) … [such as being so numerous as the stars in heaven, possessing the gates of their enemies, being a blessing to humanity, etc.,] how can the “Jewish” people be shown to have fulfilled these promises ? Did God lie ? Or, has any other collection of humans fulfilled the promises ?

      One more question. Since there are 10 tribes that have gone missing are those Jews in Israel possessing the land promised to all 12 tribes or just that land apportined to their tribe ? Or are they all trespassing ?

       
  16. Doug

    October 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    One more question. Since there are 10 tribes that have gone missing are those Jews in Israel possessing the land promised to all 12 tribes or just that land apportioned originally to their tribe ?

    Or are they all trespassing ?

     
  17. Jetlag

    October 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

     
  18. Doug

    October 24, 2013 at 4:41 AM

    Jetlag,

    The land claims made by modern “Israelis” 90% of whom are Ashkenazi Jews (Germanic), are based upon [unwitnessed] old testament promises made some 3500 years ago to Abraham by an invisible God. (I am not denying that this event actually took place but I am pointing out that the story offers room for embellishment / falsification).

    This “land grant” is being considered legitimate enough by western governments that they have assisted in the genocidal attacks upon the indigenous Arabs (true semites) that can actually prove their residence in Palestine (JerUSAlem) for the previous 1500 years – which the Ashkenazi Jews cannot. The so-called “return” of the Jews is a secular event with consequences that the entire world is ill effected by today.

    The scripture that you quote has no bearing upon this secular claim upon the land called Palestine / Jerusalem. No other nation state has been claimed and instituted in such a manner as this fraud we today call Israel. (Not to mention that 5/6 of those included in the alleged promise have disappeared from sight for over 2500 years).

     
    • palani

      October 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM

      Doug

      “The land claims made by modern “Israelis” … are based upon [unwitnessed] old testament promises made some 3500 years ago to Abraham by an invisible God. ”

      This is called a ‘conveyance’ and any condition annexed to that conveyance by law is active forever. See the URL below, an exerpt from a book called ‘A Complete Body of ‘Conveyancing’.

       
    • Yartap

      October 24, 2013 at 9:07 AM

      Hi Doug,

      I understand what you are saying about the land claims. And I agree. Those claiming the land are not legitimate claimants. People forget that God’s chosen people are a “family” (Jacob/Israel) of people and not a religious group of people.

      We learn from Scriptures that God has promised His chosen to scatter them if they disobey Him. This was done to both, the house of Israel (Ephramite kingdom) and the house of Judah (true Jews). We also see how modern Jewry began in Scriptures at 2nd Kings 17 with the Assyrian king returning the priest to teach the new inhabitants (non-Israelites) about the Lord and at Ezra 9 and Nehemiah with the return of the house of Judah’s return with a “remnant” of people into a group of Jews (not true) that have “mingled” (mixed) with true Jews. We learn that Ezra calls for the separation of strange marriages and Nehemiah calling to have them segregate religious practices from not true jews. We see how Jesus had great problems with the religious leaders who he said was of the devil (John 8: 37-59).

      So, who’s land does it belong to? We learn in Joshua 21: 43-45 that God gave His chosen all the land. But later, our all knowing God, knew that we would fail Him. We see this in 2nd Samual 7:10 when the prophet Nathan tells king David about a “new” land for His chosen people before the scattering of His people. We further see this “new land” in Jeremiah’s commission at Jeremiah 1:10 and 18:7-10; in Jeremiah 23:3-8 and 31:28-29; in Ezekiel 36:24 and 37 and in Amos 9 for a few verses.

      So, where is this new promised land from God? My guess is that it is found in the verse where Jesus says, his sheep hear his voice and they know him (John 10: 14 and 27).

      Blessings, Yartap

       
      • Yartap

        October 24, 2013 at 1:38 PM

        Hi again, Doug and others,

        To give a Bible illustration of His hidden chosen people and others, look at the stories of the Canaanite (Greek/Syrophenician) woman (Matt. 15: 22-28 & Mark 7: 25-30) and the Roman centurion (Matt. 8: 5-13 & Luke 7:1-10). Both had an issue with sickness, the woman’s daughter was sick and the centurion’s servant was sick. Both are known as heathen gentiles; and both called upon Jesus for help in healing. But note how Jesus treated each differently.

        Jesus said to the his disciples very important words about his mission in Matthew 15: 24, “But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Then Jesus tells the woman in verse 26, “It is not meet to take the children’s (house of Israel) bread, and cast it to dogs.” In Mark 7:27 the same is said this way, “Let the children (house of Israel) first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.”

        Now compare Jesus’s treatment of the Canaanite woman with Jesus’s treatment towards the centurion. When asked for healing Jesus said in Matthew 8:7, “I will come and heal him.” In Luke 7:6 the Bible says that “Jesus went with them (to heal the centurion’s servant).”

        Question: Why didn’t Jesus make the same statement about the children’s (house of Israel) bread being cast to the dogs towards the centurion? Could it be, that Jesus knows the centurion to be of the house of Israel? Could it be that the captured house of Israel migrated all the way to Roman and became the Romans? Why did St. Paul travel his journeys to the Northern Mediterranean? Could it be that the jews had forgotten God’s promise that the house of Israel would not go out of existence and would be rejoined?

        And Jesus said in John 10:27, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me;”.

        Blessings to all, Yartap.

         
  19. Adrian

    October 24, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Point in case,no one owns the land,the land owns us.
    We all have the right of the user.First come ,first served.
    The jews believe that they are the chosen people,that’s their problem.
    We,all are made of the same stuff.From dust to dust.

     
    • palani

      October 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM

      “no one owns the land,the land owns us”

      Land is a volume. Land is not anything specific within that volume but could be anything that is capable of being identified and described. Certainly you live within a volume but you choose whether you live in the volume of a city, county, state or federation or something else. These four descriptions (city, county, state, federation) are all political entities. Not being particularly successful as a political being I choose to live in a watershed instead. I don’t think of the watershed owning me but I do try to follow all of the laws that the watershed imposes upon those within its volume so ownership is the sense of the laws applying or not.

       
  20. EDOMS THORN

    October 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    The word “ISRAEL” occurs 2568 times in 2294 verses in the KJV, and not one time is ISRAEL called “JEW” The Book of Romans is largely about Gods love for ISRAEL/Jacob and the word “JEW” is used there ten times and not one time is it used for ISRAEL. WHY NOT?
    NEVER in the entire Bible are the so called JEWS called “Gods Chosen”

    1 Chronicles 16:13 O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones.

    Psalm 135:4 For the Lord hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.

    Isaiah 41:8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

    Isaiah 44:1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:

    Isaiah 45:4 For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

    AND the “elect” are ISRAEL! Not JEWS!

    The END of this “AGE” is what?? The New World Order! It is those EDOMITE JEWS that are bring the N.W.O. about!

    William F. Dankenbring sums it up for us like this; ( E.T. says Dankenbring is in ERROR about who EDOM is today he say they are “MExicans” LOL)
    According to prophecy, this “rivalry” was to characterize the ongoing relationships of these two people throughout historical time.
    Finally, the “age of Esau” will be replaced by the “age of Jacob” or “Israel.”The book II Esdras in the Apocrypha speaks of this prophecy:

    ‘What will mark the parting of the times? Or when will the end of the first or the beginning of the second be?’

    “And he said to me, ‘From Abraham to Abraham, for from him sprang Jacob and Esau, but Jacob’s hand held Esau’s heel from the beginning. For ESAU IS THE END OF THIS AGE, AND JACOB IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ONE THAT FOLLOWS. For the beginning of a man is his hand, and the end of a man is his heel” (II Esdras 6:7-10).
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/es2006.htm#007

    OBADIAH 1:5-7 …”If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes? (E.T. says that sounds like the NWO, and how the resorces and wealth of the world are being stolen by the EDOMITE “ELITE”.) Vrs. 6. How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up! All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.
    ( “thy confederacy” are those Nation in the West, America and Europe, and all of those that have been deceived by the Gods Chosen™ lie and have unwittingly helped Edom establish the N.W.O. At some point, the west will turn on EDOM! I believe that wont happen until the world turns on us, TRUE ISRAEL! Also notice, “they that eat thy bread” is talking about KNOWLEDGE!

    TRUE ISRAEL is the WESTERN Nations!
    Why don’t these scriptures fit the so called “Gods Chosen”?
    http://www.edomsthorn.wordpress.com/why-dont-these-scriptures-fit-the-so-called-gods-chosen

    EDOM (REV. 2:9 JEWS) created the VATICAN
    http://www.atrueott.wordpress.com/righteous-blood-part-xi-not-so-fasce-in-your-
    The first Jesuits were crypto Jews
    http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/Ignatius_Loyola.htm

    ISLAM A Vatican creation.
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican33.htm

    http://www.edomsthorn.wordpress.com
    EXPOSING the Gods CHOSEN™ People MYTH

     
  21. Adrian

    October 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    Life emerges from the land,so does the city and the politics.
    We are within the circle of life.
    Remember the law of the land: from dust to dust.

     
  22. Anthony Clifton

    October 26, 2013 at 7:26 AM

    true {so-called} “Jews” come from the Talmud.<———period.

    the tribes of Judah, Benjamin & Levi are not "Jews" or "Jewish"…

    http://israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/

    despite the common misunderstandings based on the "Jewish" narrative….

    http://buelahman.wordpress.com/

    and the lying pen of the scribe

     

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