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Edward Snowden for Senator!

28 Dec

Earlier this month, TIME magazine considered eight nominees for their “Person of the Year” award. Edward Snowden (who famously released the NSA computer files that exposed the NSA’s domestic and international spying apparatus) was one of those nominees. None of the other nominees had as much national and international impact in A.D. 2013 ad Edward Snowden. Nevertheless, TIME awarded “Person of the Year” to the Pope Francis.

It occurs to me that we might correct TIME’s oversight if people started write-in campaigns for electing Edward Snowden to the office of US Senator in each of the roughly 33 States that will be electing Senators in A.D. 2014.

Since Snowden is 30 years old, he’s eligible to run for Senator.  If write-in movements were attempted in 33 (?) States, it’s not impossible that Snowden might not only be elected Senator in one of those States–he might even be elected in two, three or more of those States.

There might be some State citizenship problems to overcome.  Still, wouldn’t that be something if Snowden received the most votes for the office of Senator in any State and perhaps even in several States?  I doubt that the gov-co would be pleased.

Part of the reason I suggest that write-in movements be attempted is Snowden’s brief Christmas message in the following video.  I already knew he had courage.  I knew he had integrity and intelligence.  But I see in the following video that he’s also a competent public speaker.  Based on his performance in this video, I believe Snowden could be elected to high office

Of course, even if Snowden won office, his circumstances are such that he might never be able to occupy that office.  Still, the political impact of electing Snowden to the office of U.S. Senator would be huge, hilarious and infuriating for NSA and the gov-co.  Snowden’s election(s) might send a powerful message from all who despise the currently corrupt political system.

I like the idea.  It’s whimsical, humorous, serious and intriguing.  If it went viral, who can say?  Edward Snowden might be elected to the office of U.S. Senator.

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83 responses to “Edward Snowden for Senator!

  1. Onlashuk

    December 28, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    That’s is correct, asking is cheaper than spying. However, the reason they do not ask is because they believe that they do not have to. Now why do they believe that? Because the living souls (people) have accepted an inferior position and status rejecting their superior position and status. Therefore, they have indeed abandoned their God given right to be recognized and treated as a Living Soul. So then, they are not. They are treated like things . . . like objects . . . like property . . . like chattel-slaves as any master would treat such.

    If you find this line of thought to be revolting, then you are not alone. However, this does not change the circumstances, or the status that each one has having agreed to being recognized to be a PERSON and not clarifying that they are not a PERSON, but that they do HAVE A PERSON, and do USE a PERSON, but are not the PERSON, or a PERSON.

    Now, wouldn’t it be interesting to see a real Living Soul tell TIME MAGAZINE to take their PERSON OF THE YEAR AWARD and retract it, or else face defamation of character and slander charges as a PERSON is only a fictional character that only exists on paper. Wouldn’t it be interesting for Living Souls to reject the designation of PERSON and warn anyone who dares to approach them using that title that if they persist in using that to refer to them that they will be charged with forcing you into peonage and even involuntary servitude? I know, I know . . . these are just very silly and extreme thoughts. But, then again . . .

     
    • Jetlag

      December 28, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      On the other hand, Snowden could be planning to use his “Person of the Year” nomination as a springboard to the Presidency.

      US Constitution, Article 2, Section 1:

      “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”

       
      • J.M.

        January 1, 2014 at 6:12 AM

        @ > “No person……..”

        Seems there was not a problem THEN understanding what or who a person was,meant,etc. Sooooo when I see the pictures of at least all of the Presidents,up to honest Abe, I see photos of “persons.”
        After honest abe, I still see photos of persons but some of the qualifications to be that type/sort/kind of “person” changed via “appropriate legislation.” One of the early requirements mandated that ONLY a white male could be President. Of course there were other requirements. Sooooo, Person,per se, is not a bad word. It depends on how it is defined. Right Patriot One ?? Where are you?

         
    • J.M.

      December 29, 2013 at 3:41 PM

      Onlashuk
      @ >December 28, 2013 at 9:31 PM

      To me, the way ANY word is defined is what counts/matters,etc. IF, for example, & let’s say any statute,ordinance,regulation,etc defines “Person” as > “ANY man or Woman made in the image of God,who has attained the age of majority.” Then, I consider that I am a person, as therein defined. It is how any word is defined, that matters,at least to me. OR, what is it in your opinion I am not grasping?

       
    • J.M.

      January 1, 2014 at 5:57 PM

      per > “……..rejecting their superior position and status.”
      Who does this knowingly?

      Per > each one has having agreed to being recognized to be a PERSON

      When we are taught from the git-go that all people are a.k.a. persons but of different statuses,e.g. King,Queen,Prince, & so on down the line. what is the problem? In the beginning, in the United States of America,every white man was regarded as a King & every white woman,a Queen. If you as a King accused me of wronging you, 12 Kings (Jury) made the judgement re: the issue. The purpose of our government was, in pertinent part, to promote ethnic purity of the white race & the Christian religion. I know this makes some people angry, at me, to put it mildly, for saying this. Who the hell understands anyone saying I am not a person but I have a person. Personality is understood, right? You are not a person but you have a personality?? This, I call straining at gnats & swallowing camels. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.

       
      • Lex Mercatoria

        February 8, 2014 at 10:34 PM

        J.M.,

        You said, “Who the hell understands anyone saying I am not a person but I have a person.”

        It matters not if your friends & neighbors comprehend any of this. The people who act as attorneys & magistrates–the people who count–do. By person they don’t mean “personality” but rather “persona”–action, representation–state of mind, if you will.

        You may call it “straining at gnats & swallowing camels” but this whole thing is game of words designed to test one’s metal by challenging different facets of one’s being: heart, intellect and ego.

         
    • Mladen

      January 2, 2014 at 7:14 PM

      @Onlashuk,

      You posted a very observant and educated comment. Unfortunately, most people have no idea that the only person recognized in law is the corporation, which is the body corporate (i.e. corpse), which is a dead body. The following video explains the legal system in only 18 seconds:

      And, unfortunately, most people do not realize that there are two separate, distinct and opposite “Person”, which are the body corporate dead person of “Hu-man” represented by the surname [or the falsely joined combined legal name], which is opposite to the person of God represented by the God-given inalienable Christian name on its own.

      When you assume (claim, take over) public property which does NOT belong to you and use it for selfish private gain then you become the criminal in the system that was created to be criminal by design. The historical use of surnames began only for the purpose of identifying criminals.

      The Alfred Adask commentary introduction seems to miss the point that the it is the public person [that is to say the “Legal Person”], being the property of the public government, that has no privacy. When you take something out of the public to use privately you must pay to play with it.

      If only people would realize that they are energizing and impersonating the dead artificial “Legal Person” using its “Legal Name”, which is not their property, people could then at least begin to see that they have used their free will to make a fatal ignorant (not educated) choice. But, alas, most people would rather defend their ignorance to their death. So be it.

      The real truth, reality and fact in law is that there is no such thing as “Privacy” for the public person. God’s people perish for lack of knowledge (ignorance) because they do not realize that they are ignorantly committing treason against God by volunteering and consenting to be a secular citizen or civilian — which is lawful voluntary slavery, which only Satan the devil could conceive. Secular society and democracy has nothing to do with God. In fact, secular citizens or civilians are an enemy to God since the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with this secular world.
      —- Mladen [ child52of144@hotmail.com ]

       
      • J.M.

        January 3, 2014 at 3:28 PM

        @ > In fact, secular citizens or civilians are an enemy to God since the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with this secular world.

        Oh, so “Jesus of Nazareth” only died for those who were friendly to his cause,etc.???” Paul of Tarsus” also said he was a Roman Citizen.& since the scripture says in pertinent part that ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, & since Paul wrote most of the New Testament via this inspiration, there is something wrong here with him saying he is a Roman Citizen & he was aka Paul of Tarsus. Please help me understand what I am not grasping or at least try. Do you think offering proof to tyrants that you are not a person is going to make any difference? I have never paid a penny in fines but I have spent a lot of time in jail I mean a lot of time & I think the only reason I am not hounded anymore is that I am not worth fooling with.

         
      • Mladen

        January 3, 2014 at 3:59 PM

        In reply, J.M.,

        First, you completely ignore the point I made in my comment and then you make your own private interpretation by taking something out of the Holy Bible out of context. Unfortunately, this is very typical as many people use the Bible out of context to pervert it to comply with their own private and mere false beliefs that misrepresents the facts in both the Holy Bible and the law.

        With respect to Paul of Tarsus and his comment about having been a Roman Citizen, they would have let him go if he had not spoken mistakenly because the Romans only had jurisdiction over the Roman citizens. Which part of Christ Jesus statement that His Kingdom is no part of this world did you not understand?

        And, if you had understand the point I had made in the first place you would never have gone to jail for whatever reason you consented to go to jail because it is all by ignorant consent. It sounds like perhaps you were energizing and impersonating the dead artificial legal name for the dead artificial legal person that matched the civilly dead birth certificate (bankruptcy certificate) for the government-created dead entity that is the child of the state and its property? Did you take their public property and use it for selfish private gain? Or, did you just violate one or more of their millions of laws for their artificial property and they simply exercised their right to penalize you for stealing from their property or for refusing to pay the fines you agreed to pay ahead of time when you ignorantly entered the implied secular social contract?

        Please take 18 seconds to view the following video to understand where you went wrong:

        —- Mladen

         
      • Martens

        January 3, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        J.M. >”Paul of Tarsus” also said he was a Roman Citizen.

        Indeed, and Paul used his Roman citizenship to powerful effect. He didn’t simply drop out and play the “anti-government” protest bongos, which is a green flag to evil. Rather, he got in the game and took the fight to the enemy, which effort was greatly enhanced by citizenship.

        When you take the bait and become an “anti-government” dropout, the bad guys in government win.

         
      • J.M.

        January 3, 2014 at 5:20 PM

        Mladen,
        Thanks,
        Your comment cleared up a lot.The video was the icing on the cake & cleared everything up. Excellent video. I wish I could have seen it years ago. I wish there was something I could do for you to show my appreciation, but you seem to not be in need of anything & this is good. Thanks again. BUT, just think, here we have a perfect man Jesus, aka Emanuel, who was accused of being the worst sort of criminal & he too was dragged before the court of his time. I always appeared in their inferior tribunals (Sin-o gogs) in jail attire as I refused to appear in any other way. They were put on notice of my stand/beliefs,etc. BEFORE I was kidnapped (kid like like in goat,an animal) & forced to appear. They have carried me in, dragged me in, etc. literally. Thanks again for the video it really opened my eyes. Everybody should watch it. In 18 seconds it tells you the who,why,when,what & where of everything & tells you what to do about it.

         
      • J.M.

        January 4, 2014 at 3:37 AM

        Mladen,

        @ > And, unfortunately, most people do not realize that there are two separate, distinct and opposite “Person”, which are the body corporate dead person of “Hu-man” represented by the surname [or the falsely joined combined legal name], which is opposite to the person of God represented by the God-given inalienable Christian name on its own.

        I’m not sure per your superior enlightened aquarius age knowledge which of the two meanings applies to the signers of the Statute of 1776,a.k.a. Declaration of Independence,& as “Mountain Man” calls it, the 1789 Constitution. Maybe both? Also, what is the difference in inalienable v. unalienable. If there is no difference, why change only one letter? We have Holy days & Holidays. Only one letter change in the two words there also.

         
      • J.M.

        January 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        Mladen,

        @ >If only people would understand that they do not even own the combined (merged & confused “Legal Name” they would understand the truth of your statement that the people have volunteered into their own bondage (slavery) and this voluntary slavery is perfectly lawful.

        OK, I UNDERSTAND !!! What has changed ?? What difference has my understanding made ?? WHY don’t you people who “understand” post some final orders from courts all in your favor & proving you are right? OR, show something FROM these so called “higher authorities” agreeing with you.

         
  2. kanani

    December 29, 2013 at 9:53 AM

    Edward Snowden is a phony story. What exactly did he leak? That the government spies on everything. If that is the case, it only reinforces what others have said.

    Probably some kind of double agent.

     
    • mike

      December 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM

      I agree, but it confirmed what others had been telling us for years that most refused to acknowledge. Also, he may indeed be a double agent, but if one is to waste their time voting, why not send a message to the masses?

       
    • Adask

      December 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM

      Apparently, you haven’t followed the news over the last few months about Snowden.

      He leaked EVIDENCE rather than mere opinion and speculation. His leaked EVIDENCE was sufficient to cause a national scandal over the NSA and an international scandal as other nations and national leaders discovered that they were under surveillance that had previously been unknown.

      If the story was “phony,” why did German Chancellor Angela Merkel react publicly to having her cell phone spied on by NSA? What about Argentinia’s President Cristina Kirchner cancel a meeting with the USA over the spying allegations? If it’s all phony, why has the US government sought to capture Snowden and extradite him from foreign countries?

      Are you alleging that the rash of national and international scandals are all the result of our government and several foreign governments being so stupid that they’ve staged this hoax (which has cost the US a great deal of credibility and support) for . . . what reason? Where’s the gain? Who has profited?

      The only way the Snowden story makes sense is if it’s for real.

      If there’s a double-agent in our midst, I doubt that it’s Snowden.

       
      • kanani

        December 30, 2013 at 9:43 AM

        Once again. I have heard for years already that George W. Bush (and others) would not carry or use cel phones. They are iunsecure. Angela Merkel should have known, she manages a country.

        Too, it has been stated over & over that most every piece of technology and computer program has built in back doors for the purpose of snooping etc.

        Lastly, news stories that get wall to wall coverage are usually contrived in some manner. Fishy.

        I like your blog Adask btw.

         
      • Mladen

        January 2, 2014 at 7:32 PM

        Perhaps it is relevant to point out that your own former Supreme Court Judge Andrew P. Napolitano wrote a book called “LIES THE GOVERNMENT TOLD YOU. Myth, Power and Deception in American History.” So, no, Edward Snowden is not the only one to give concrete proof that secular government is corrupt. You can also view Andrew P. Napolitano being interviewed in several YouTube sites such as the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Vgx79FmpA

        Anybody that does not know that secular government was always corrupt from the beginning is simply naïve. A new acquaintance of mine named Rod has a very good short blog that among other things summarizes the fact that every single one of the 50 American States of the union have a preamble to their constitutions that recognize the Supremacy of God — see http://aetherical.blogspot.ca/ .

        Secular nations have nothing to do with God because they operate on the basis of having jurisdiction over their own creations, which is the “Hu-man” and its dead artificial “Legal Name” for its dead artificial “Legal Person” of man which is under man-made “Rule of law.” — which is opposed to the person of God that is under grace.

        Secular government never ever had anything to do with God. Christ Jesus gave the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate the perfect confession to rebut the false presumption (false assumption, false charge, false allegation) because Christ Jesus made it clear that His (God’s) Kingdom is no part of this (secular) world (a God-less evil system of things under the dominion of Satan).
        —- Mladen [ child52of144@hotmail.com ]

         
    • Lex Mercatoria

      February 1, 2014 at 3:42 AM

      Edward “Snow’d ’em” is a media/gov’t created personage played by an actor or intelligence agent–or is perhaps a SIM–just like “Julian Assange.”

      Just like the media hoax “Wikileaks,” there’s no real exposure of anything going on here. The media is a de facto arm of the gov’t. If this guy was for real we’d hear nothing of it as the media would just ignore it. This drama isn’t being played out without the governments approval.

       
      • J.M.

        February 9, 2014 at 10:29 AM

        LEX MERCATORIA
        @ >The people who act as attorneys & magistrates–the people who count–do. By person they don’t mean “personality” but rather “persona”–action, representation–state of mind, if you will.

        IF you think I’m that stupid you are sadly mistaken my friend. You tell the “people who count” as you call them that you are not a person but you have a person & you are in for a competency hearing by a STATE PAID Psycho. He/She counts too !!!

         
    • Lex Mercatoria

      February 8, 2014 at 10:39 PM

      Exactly.

      This whole “Edward Snow’d ’em” thing, along with the related Wikileaks and “Julian Assange” character, is yet more media fakery nonsense wherein the PTB pretend to expose themselves. As long as people keep tuning in and accepting what is presented to them as reality, the PTB win.

       
      • J.M.

        February 10, 2014 at 11:53 PM

        Lex Mercatoria

        @ >This whole “Edward Snow’d ‘em” thing, along with the related Wikileaks ……………….”

        You may be 100% correct. What does guv-co have to gain by what Edward Snowden is doing or has done? BTW, I apologize for putting your user ID in all caps earlier. I had EDOMS THORN on my mind. He uses all caps.

         
  3. Yartap

    December 29, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Thanks, Al, for giving the full version of Showden’s message. I did n’t know it was a Christmas message after seeing the lame media’s versions. They cut out both of Showden’s “Merry Christmas.”

     
  4. Timmy

    December 29, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Snowden has enjoyed MASSIVE and ongoing mainstream media exposure. That alone tells me he is playing a part they want played, whether he is doing it knowingly (most likely) or not.
    They kill people all the time for lesser “transgressions” than this, but they couldn’t find/catch him as he flew commercial from country to country?? Anything real and threatening is mightily and fully surpressed from msm. (911 truth, who killed Kennedy, useful health info, etc.) Just really doesn’t pass the smell test. As others mentioned, there were zero specific or truly new revelations.

     
    • J.M.

      December 30, 2013 at 4:49 AM

      Hello, Timmy,
      If you are right, it’s just goes to show that some of us (especially me) are not as perceptive as you are. Also, you have a better smeller.

       
  5. Martens

    December 29, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    We’ll get a better idea “who benefits” from Snowden’s leaks as he divulges more of the data he’s holding and makes other tell-tale moves down the road.

    Though nothing is proven one way or the other so far, it’s a good idea to be skeptical of anything resembling a coordinated public relations campaign involving all the tentacles (both mainstream and “alternative”) of the Big Media octopus.

     
    • Jetlag

      December 31, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      Wait, the media would collaborate in foisting a politically-motivated hoax on a gullible public who uncritically accept what is presented to them at face value?

      Who’da thunk it?

       
      • J.M.

        December 31, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        @ >Who’da thunk it?
        Ahh thunk yer rat.

         
      • J.M.

        January 5, 2014 at 7:56 PM

        Jetlag
        @ > We will make that determination after, not before, using our critical thinking skills to examine the situation.
        What does Jetlag mean? I know what it once meant but apparently it means the opposite today, like many other things. What is the highly sophisticated critical thinking aquarius age definition of Jetlag.?

         
    • J.M.

      January 3, 2014 at 6:38 PM

      @ > Indeed, and Paul used his Roman citizenship to powerful effect.

      Thanks Martens. I made a mistake & put a period when I should have put a ? mark when I typed, “Paul said he was a Roman Citizen & aka Paul of Tarsus. I meant to ask, what is wrong with Paul saying this. Anyway, I agree with you because I understand it exactly as you describe.>” Indeed, and Paul used his Roman citizenship to powerful effect.”

      Did you see that powerful video, how in 18 seconds everything is summed up in a nutshell & gives the answer as to where we have gone astray, & how to get back on track?.

       
  6. Cody

    December 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    From all appearances, Snowden took a very brave moral stand in the face of certain persecution for doing so. Obama is quickly falling from the graces of the media, faster than we can calculate. The media is taking some not so secret enjoyment in watching their tarnished golden boy getting goaded by a little guy. We should rejoice that the media has come to some of their senses, while it lasts.

    I’d like to see if Snowden has the wherewithal to be a Constitutionalist.

    Thanks Al!

     
  7. Peter

    December 31, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    i BELIEVE WE ARE ALL GETTING SNOWED! WHAT A NAME “SNOWDEN”.

     
    • J.M.

      December 31, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      Peter,
      @ > i BELIEVE WE ARE ALL GETTING SNOWED!

      Maybe so, snowwhat? Is it the first time we’ve been snoadon? With the info I see/have at this time, I see a ray of sunshine has broken through by Snowden.

       
  8. Timmy

    January 2, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    Oh, and now the NEW YORK TIMES thinks Snowden should be welcomed home with no prosecution….

    This is so obvious, it’s ridiculous. (“Job well done.”) I would expect the readers of this blog to be able to see behind the curtain. They might just as well post an editorial saying “he works for the man, and has done his part perfectly.” When Ellsberg leaked the pentagon papers in the vietnam era, the Times published the excerpts. It was the same chorus… “treason, leaker, criminal”, etc. Then he was magically acquitted of all criminal charges at his “trial”.

     
    • J.M.

      January 2, 2014 at 9:07 PM

      Timmy,
      Was it the NEW YORK TIMES, or, one writer? NOT ALL people in the press are bad. NOT ALL police are bad. NOT ALL people comprising Government are bad,e.g. Ron Paul, yes, I think Sara Palin was/is straightforward too. However, I know the bad outnumber the good & by many More than I care to think about,so I don’t think about them. I’m convinced the good will win the war. Sure we will lose some battles but we will win the war in the end. This is what matters. & NOBODY will convince me otherwise. I may not live to see it, but I’ve been to the mountaintop TOO. & I KNOW how it ends. This is what matters. BUT it’s going to get worse than it is now,before it gets better. You can bet your sweet bippy on that.

       
  9. Peter

    January 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Could SNOWDEN inc. be a tool that the establishment uses?Ultimately he is useful in disclosing the “plan” laid out, the boyz like to communicate to their minions esoterically. Could he just be some computer generated algorithm type of image on the screen as in the book 1984 for the ” hate sessions ” the sheeple experience for the molding their minds? He may be likea bin laden image on a screen of sorts.What do you think?

     
    • J.M.

      January 2, 2014 at 3:21 PM

      Peter,
      His Father,Lon, would take issue with your opinion. Me thinks Daniel Ellsberg & Edward Snowden have a lot in common. I salute them both. What will it take to arouse enuff people to say NO MORE of this CRAP? I am doing my part. Sad to say, I feel like the Lone Ranger in my part of the world. BUT A winner never quits & a quitter never wins.

       
  10. Adask

    January 2, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    I think that if Snowden was some sort of government agent, we would have to suppose that his work somehow advanced government interests. What did government gain by having Snowden leak info about the NSA? I see no gain. Instead, I see significant loss of confidence in gov-co by the American people and I see foreign governments riled about being openly spied on by the NSA. If Snowden was a government agent, what did the government gain? How does the government gain by keeping Snowden in Russia or some place? If there is no gain for government, Snowden is not a government agent.

     
    • Jetlag

      January 2, 2014 at 3:55 PM

      @Adask “If there is no gain for government, Snowden is not a government agent.”

      Could be, if there’s no gain for government. This thing hasn’t fully played out yet.

      Also, considering the amount of support Snowden is getting from the false-alternative side of the NWO’s infotainment media complex, it’s possible Snowden is an anti-government agent, or an anti-US government agent.

       
      • J.M.

        January 2, 2014 at 7:37 PM

        Jetlag,
        It’s true that no good deed will go without criticism,or condemned,or some kind of unjust punishment. I think Edward Snowden is against dishonest Government. BUT, I am not right about very much. It’s looks like I am set in my ways.But, I always stand ready to be corrected. Just don’t confuse me with the facts.

         
      • Jetlag

        January 2, 2014 at 10:02 PM

        @J.M.

        The point is, we don’t yet know if what Snowden did was a good deed. It could have been a bad deed. We will make that determination after, not before, using our critical thinking skills to examine the situation. This examination is what we’re about in the present discussion.

        The readers of the Adask blog are not naive rubes who just believe whatever story comes down the chute from the NWO’s mainstream and/or “alternative” media storytellers.

         
  11. Mladen

    January 2, 2014 at 7:55 PM

    @Onlashuk posted a very observant and educated comment. Unfortunately, most people have no idea that the only person recognized in law is the corporation, which is the body corporate (i.e. corpse), which is a dead body. The following video explains the legal system in only 18 seconds:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHPI-ZKzXy4 . Also, the related one-minute video exposes the simple secret of the state: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10VqFPuBAh8 .

    Unfortunately, most people do not realize that there are two separate and opposite “Person(s)”. One “Person” is the dead and artificial body corporate or “Hu-man” represented by the surname [or the falsely joined combined legal name]. The opposite is the person of God represented by the God-given inalienable Christian name on its own.

    When you assume (claim, take over) public property which does NOT belong to you and use it for selfish private gain then you become the criminal in the system that was created to be criminal by design. The historical use of surnames began only for the purpose of identifying criminals.

    The Alfred Adask commentary introduction to this topic seems to miss the point that it is the public person [that is to say the “Legal Person”], being the property of the public government, that has no privacy. When you take something out of the public to use it privately you must pay to play with it. And, “It” is an it and not a he or him or she or her. To be clear, the person of “Hu-man” is dead and the person of God is living. The two are confused by being merged together under the “Legal name”, which is a dead entity created by man so that man can have jurisdiction over it. “Hu-man” is the “ANIMAL” that Alfred Adask often alludes to and all “Hu-mans” are treated like animals because humans are animals. See http://aetherical.blogspot.ca/ for a well explained explanation using several English and legal dictionary definitions and the facts in law.

    If only people would realize that they are energizing and impersonating the dead artificial “Legal Person” using its “Legal Name”, which is not their property, people could then at least begin to see that they have used their free will to make a fatal ignorant (not educated) choice. But, alas, most people would rather defend their ignorance to their death. So be it. God’s people perish for lack of knowledge (which is called ignorance).

    The real truth, reality and fact in law is that there is no such thing as “Privacy” for the public person. God’s people perish for lack of knowledge (ignorance) because they do not realize that they are ignorantly committing treason against God by volunteering and consenting to be surety (guarantor, warrantor) for an entity called the secular citizen or civilian — which is lawful voluntary slavery, which only Satan the devil could conceive. Secular society and democracy has nothing to do with God. In fact, secular citizens or civilians are an enemy to God since the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with this secular world.

    Perhaps it is relevant to point out that your own former Supreme Court Judge Andrew P. Napolitano wrote a book called “LIES THE GOVERNMENT TOLD YOU. Myth, Power and Deception in American History.” So, no, Edward Snowden is not the only one to give concrete proof that secular government is corrupt. You can also view Andrew P. Napolitano being interviewed in several YouTube sites such as the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Vgx79FmpA

    Anybody that does not know that secular government was always corrupt from the beginning is simply naïve. A new acquaintance of mine named Rod has a very good short blog that among other things summarizes the fact that every single one of the 50 American States of the union have a preamble to their constitutions that recognize the Supremacy of God — see http://aetherical.blogspot.ca/ .

    Several different people have left comments questioning the possibility that EDWARD SNOWDEN could possibly be a government spy. Only time will tell. I believe it is naïve to simply dismiss the possibility. It is no secret that from the beginning secular governments are evil and so they lie to their own supposed man-made civilians or citizens. Much of the confusion happens because most people confuse the person of man with the person of God, which are two separate and distinct opposites.

    Secular nations have nothing to do with God because they operate on the basis of having jurisdiction over their own creations, which is the “Hu-man” and its dead artificial “Legal Name” for its dead artificial “Legal Person” of man which is under man-made “Rule of law.” — which is opposed to the person of God that is under grace.

    Secular government never ever had anything to do with God. Christ Jesus gave the Roman Governor Pontius Pilate the perfect confession to rebut the false presumption (false assumption, false charge, false allegation) because Christ Jesus made it clear that His (God’s) Kingdom is no part of this (secular) world (a God-less evil system of things under the dominion of Satan).

    All this banter is both sad and sadly funny and entertaining all at the same time. Satan is laughing his butt off and God is shaking his head because His creation have become so dumbed down. People must realize that they are part of the fraud and they must also realize that fraud is not fraud as long as you consent to continue to participate in the fraud. Unfortunately, most people morals and conscience go out the door when it is not convenient and expedient for them to research and accept the truth and facts in law. People have their own laziness and ignorance to blame for their own misery and the misery of the collective secular society as a whole as we are all the cause of our own consequences.
    —- Mladen [ child52of144@hotmail.com ]

     
  12. Timmy

    January 2, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    I’m with jetlag on this at this stage. We don’t know how it will play out, and more importantly what Hegelian anti-thesis will be presented, as is SOP for them. I just know they bump off people that truly threaten their system. All the time. But this guy flew commercial all over the place, AFTER he “stole” all the data?? They couldn’t find/stop/intimidate him? Just smells funny to me.

    Will be interesting to see how it all develops.

     
    • J.M.

      January 3, 2014 at 8:01 AM

      @ > I just know they bump off people that truly threaten their system. All the time.

      I understand & agree. Key words are, truly threaten. What, in your opinion, did Edward Snowden, do wrong? What I am “aware” of that he did/said was not news to me. But, here we have a system of lawbreakers making it unlawful for you or I (anyone) to expose any of their ungodly, etc., acts. Justice Story said that violations of the Constitution is a CRIMINAL act/matter. He said this, however, BEFORE the 14th Amendment was ALLEGEDLY RATified. Like I said, Timmy, you may have a better smeller. Just like you & Jetlag, I’m waiting too, same as you to see what the end result is. The adversary(s) say Edward IS a traitor,e.g. Richard (Big Dick) Cheny, who cannot shoot straight, & this IS well known, but I don’t think that all of the real traitors are not trying to do something to justify their thoughts. It seems to me they are between a rock & a hard place< & really don't know what to do. Love ya

       
  13. Bob

    January 3, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Mr. Adask, thought this was appropriate to the conversation, not my writing but Martin Armstrong.
    ——————————————————————————————————————————–
    http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/01/03/has-obama-feinstein-mccain-violated-the-civil-rights-of-snowden/

    It is a violation of civil rights to falsely arrest anyone and to and to engage in a CONSPIRACY for Malicious Prosecution of that individual. Such criminal prosecutions are common by the Feds targeting local police. But these types of violations are in themselves SELECTIVE prosecutions for they tend to focus only of the discrimination based upon race. This is why we need the independent office of the old Roman Tribune who was an official separately elected who could prosecute any government office for what Obama, Feinstein and McCain have publicly advocated against Snowden. We have the stripped down version of the Office of Inspector General, however, this is an appointment and it is subordinate to the Department of Justice who is run by a White House appointment. There will NEVER be honesty in government without an independently elected Tribune who should not be a member of any party but who is nominated by the legal profession.

    Actually, Ben Franklin proposed that Judges should not be appointed by politicians but rather we should have adopted the Scottish system where the lawyers nominated judges for they would always nominate the best so they could take their clients afterwards. Likewise, we need desperately a check and balance within government and that has to be a totally independently elected Office of Inspector General who has the full powers of the old Roman Tribune with nominations EXCLUSIVELY by a national vote of lawyers not even a some small committee that can be bribed.

    Only such a tribune would have the duty, obligation, and mandate to indict Obama, Feinstein and McCain under the CONSPIRACY laws to violate the civil rights of Edward Snowden and any other whistle-blower against government corruption. Only when there is some independent check and balance will we ever get close to actually honest government. Anyone in government who has called Edward Snowden a “traitor” has abused their power and violated the civil rights of the entire nation. They cannot write laws that protect themselves or usurp powers the Constitution did not bestow upon them.

    The Supreme Court has acknowledged ”No law has any effect, of its own force, beyond the limits of the sovereignty from which its authority is derived.” Hilton v Guyot, 159 US 113, 163 (1895). What Congress has assumed by calling Snowden a traitor is that THEY are the sovereign nation – not the people. The Supreme Court has stated numerous times that the GOVERNMENT is not the “sovereign” for only the people are.

    To even justify the American Revolution, they had to separate the people from the monarch to state that the nation was the people, not government. Of course this was Thomas Paine’s opening proposition in his Common Sense that everyone acknowledges justified the American Revolution on that very basis.

    One of the earliest Supreme Court cases Chisholm v. State of Georgia, 2 U.S. 419 (1793) states this very position that Congress has forgotten in their arrogance – they are NOT the sovereign:

    “Sovereignty is the right to govern; a nation or State-sovereign is the person or persons in whom that resides. In Europe the sovereignty is generally ascribed to the Prince; here it rests with the people; there, the sovereign actually administers the Government; here, never in a single instance; our Governors are the agents of the people, and at most stand in the same relation to their sovereign, in which regents in Europe stand to their sovereigns. Their Princes have personal powers, dignities, and pre-eminences, our rulers have none but official; nor do they partake in the sovereignty otherwise, or in any other capacity, than as private citizens.”

    In another very famous case, McCullock v. Maryland, 4 Wheat 316, 404, 405 (1819), the Supreme Court states clearly:

    “In the United States, Sovereignty resides in the people, who act through the organs established by the Constitution. “

    In the infamous decision that ruled that slaves were property, they had to acknowledge who was sovereign:

    “The words ‘people of the United States’ and ‘citizens’ are synonymous terms, and mean the same thing. They both describe the political body who. according to our republican institutions. form the sovereignty, and who hold the power and conduct the Government through their representatives. They are what we familiarly call the ‘sovereign people.’ and every citizen is one of this people, and a constituent member of this sovereignty.”

    Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1856)

    In Julliard v Greenman, 110 U.S. 421, (1884), The Supreme Court states once more in very clear terms:

    “There is no such thing as a power of inherent sovereignty in the government of the United States… In this country sovereignty resides in the people, and Congress can exercise no power which they have not, by their Constitution entrusted to it: all else is withheld.”

    Again in Yick Wo v Hopkins 118 U.S. 356 (1886) the Supreme Court stated very clearly:

    “Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but, in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with ~he people. by whom and for whom all government exists and acts”.

    In the middle of the Great Depression, the Supreme Court once again stated in Perry v United States, 294 U.S. 330, 353 (1935), very plainly what Congress ignores today:

    “The Congress cannot revoke the Sovereign power of the people to override itself as thus declared.”

    Finally, in a more modern case, the Supreme Court in Colten v. Kentucky, 407 U.S. 104, 122, 92 S. Ct. 1953 (1972) states one more time;

    “The constitutional theory is that we the people are the sovereigns. the state and federal officials only our agents.”

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for a whistle-blower who exposes corruption within government to the PEOPLE who are the ONLY sovereign, not Obama, Feinstein, or McCain, to be criminally charged with treason. This is an abuse of process, Malicious and Selective Prosecution, that violates both the Civil Rights of the people and Snowden. Those in Congress who have dared to call Snowden a traitor for exposing their own corruption, are not worthy or office and have violated both Human Rights and Civil Rights. If there were a true independent Tribune, they would be standing trial right now.

     
    • J.M.

      January 3, 2014 at 4:04 PM

      Hi Robert,
      @ >“The constitutional theory is that we the people are the sovereigns. the state and federal officials only our agents.”

      Apparently this means, today & for quite sometime, You, I, & “others” are, as far as they are concerned, officially state & federal agents to do their bidding,e.g. get all kinds of licenses, and a license does come from a SUPERIOR authority, pay taxes for the privileges they grant to us, & for protection of their property, you & I, for one example, are warned, CLICK IT OR TICKET. A lot more can be said, buy you get the point. We are their SUBJECTS. It wasn’t always this way. Before things really got to rolling backwards, the S.C.O.T.U.S. said the 14th amendment was the beginning of the reversal of the ORDER of things. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then because the stream has risen above its source.

       
      • Mladen

        January 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        If only people would understand that they do not even own the combined (merged & confused “Legal Name” they would understand the truth of your statement that the people have volunteered into their own bondage (slavery) and this voluntary slavery is perfectly lawful.

        The word license is defined in the secular legal dictionaries as permission to do what is unlawful. I have two things to note about this. First, why would anybody want permission to do what is unlawful? Secondly, the reason that you need permission is because you are using property that does not belong to you (see above comment again).

        The moment you applied for SOCIAL SECURITY by using the dead artificial BIRTH CERTIFICATE legal name, which is NOT your property, you applied, volunteered and consented to your own slavery. We all did it out of past ignorance, which we must overcome. Fraud is not fraud while you consent to continue to be part of the fraud. What you volunteer into you can volunteer out of. Unfortunately, most people choose to defend their ignorance to their death.

        And, when you realize that you worked for nothing and you own nothing it becomes very inconvenient and very inexpedient to accept the truth and it becomes much easier to lie to ourselves and lie to others to maintain the lie from the father of the lie. We were never actually in charge of anything. But, we all ignorantly wanted to be in charge as our own little gods, like little sovereigns without subjects —– as ridiculous as that sounds —– which is treason against God, and for that we get to live in Satan’s secular (God-less) society where we are charged for being sinners and we are fined because we feel fine by living complacently in Satan’s lie.

         
  14. J.M.

    January 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    @> “And, when you realize that you worked for nothing and you own nothing ……..”

    There you go. However, somebody owns everything & the owners have their subs calling the shots. The video you posted makes this plain too, i.e., e.g., you worked for nothing and you own nothing,e.g., annual rental fee called, property tax.

     
    • Martens

      January 3, 2014 at 6:30 PM

      Hi, JM. You post some quality content which I enjoy reading. Your comment here though prompts me to send a word of warning.

      Something can’t be both a “fee” and a “tax”, at least not by any standard use of these terms. A fee follows from contract, whereas a tax is imposed by law.

      A fee and a tax are different by nature, so don’t be misled to your detriment by any fraudulent nonsense that conflates them.

       
      • J.M.

        January 3, 2014 at 7:45 PM

        @ > Something can’t be both a “fee” and a “tax”, ……”

        I did not say it was/is both. Most people, if they have & live in one, think they own their homes when “it’s “paid” for.” If the property tax is raised so high they can no longer afford to “pay” it, & decide to stay in that home anyway, they will sooner or later be evicted. I am aware this has happened before. It’s “CALLED” failure to pay PROPERTY TAX. I say B.S. I call it failure to pay the annual RENTAL FEE. Are you aware of the word, fina? I try to use terms people understand. What do you call it, property tax? I am aware of the equitable interest graciously bestowed upon us by the subs of the real owners for maintaining THEIR property. If you were the manager, let’s say of an apartment building & I RENTED an apartment from you, I know that I am not the owner. If you raise the rent & to the extent I can no loner “afford” to stay, I know I have to get out. Most people don’t think like this when it comes to what they think is their home. Regardless of what it is, property tax or something else, it must be discharged in equity or you’re out of here,i.e EVICTED, same as in an apartment. We “pay” an annual RENT on the real owners home which we think is ours. IF the home was truly ours, we could not be evicted for failure to pay their extortion..I’m not against taxes,per se. In fact, I like the tax structure the way it was originally set up. 3 taxes & 3 only. Those taxes would cover everything necessary for a lawful government to operate on. Leave the fee out/off & call it an annual rental cost. Is that better? I have heard well educated people ask what is your fee, to do a certain job,etc. what do you charge per hour, what is your hourly fee, & so on. But that probably ain’t no good english i-thur.

         
      • Martens

        January 3, 2014 at 8:24 PM

        J.M. “It’s “CALLED” failure to pay PROPERTY TAX. I say B.S. I call it failure to pay the annual RENTAL FEE.”

        You can call it a lemon pie, if you want. And I support your right to do so under the 1st Amendment.

        My only point is that the standard use of the word “fee” implies a contract. A homeowner’s property tax is not something he contracted to. It was imposed on him by law. Big difference.

        “IF the home was truly ours, we could not be evicted for failure to pay their extortion.”

        This use of “extortion” is also non-standard.

        Property rights are not absolute. Rather, they are subject to sovereign rights. As any law dictionary makes clear, the sovereign is the law-maker, the same entity which defines what property rights are in the first place.

        Property rights are a function of law, and law-making is a function of the sovereign. This is where the sovereign’s right to impose property taxes comes from.

         
      • J.M.

        February 9, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        @ > “IF the home was truly ours, we could not be evicted for failure to pay their extortion.”
        Ohhhh I didn’t know that. I thought we owned it.

         
      • J.M.

        February 11, 2014 at 12:09 AM

        Martens
        You can call it a lemon pie, ……………….”
        Why will you allow me to call it a lemon pie & say that calling it an annual rental fee is wrong?
        Annual rental fee describes it better than calling it lemon pie. OHhhh NOW I KNOW what to call it, it’s ANIMAL RENTAL COSTS. yeah, that’s a good way to describe it, animal rental costs.

         
  15. J.M.

    January 3, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    Martens,
    @ > You can call it a lemon pie, if you want. And I support your right to do so under the 1st Amendment.

    If this is a Federal issue, thanks for your support. IF it is a State issue I will claim protection under the same meaning provision in the State Constitution Bill of Rights. Don’t read me any Miranda rights tho because I am not a Federal United States citizen. Had several deputy sheriff’s, city police to say,”I am going to read to you YOUR Miranda rights.” I said, that’s not necessary, I’m not a Mexican. Their reply is, “well I have to.” I ask,You have to what? They reply, read you your Miranda rights. It’s like a dog chasing its tail.

    @ >It was imposed on him by law
    Yes, & oh how they love to impose.

    @ > This use of “extortion” is also non-standard.

    You should know by now I too am non-standard.

    @ > As any law dictionary makes clear, the sovereign is the law-maker.

    Is that right? Well it once was, & the Constitutions flowed from the people TO their public servants. Statutory law & Common Law are two different things, for lack of a better word.The so called law of the land today is completely different & means something entirely different from what it originally meant.

    @ >Property rights are a function of law, and law-making is a function of the sovereign. This is where the sovereign’s right to impose property taxes comes from.

    It’s clear to me where your values are. I see you like the word impose. Apparently, I have imposed on you in some or many ways. ANYWAY,I do not mean to impose on anyone. But, give me a break I am not as smart as you are by a long shot. You have undoubtedly forgotten more than I could ever possibly know. Also, thanks for the warning, you gave me. I have had a lot of judges to give me warnings too.Are you an attorney? Have you ever been a judge, magistrate,etc.? If not, you have missed your calling.

     
    • Martens

      January 4, 2014 at 12:24 AM

      J.M. “I see you like the word impose.”

      I don’t like or dislike this word. I use it where it applies. It applies here because that is how the sovereignty of the American people was acquired: by imposition, by force.

      “…at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people…” – Chisholm v. Georgia (1793)

      Revolutions are acts of imposition and force. Likewise, the sovereignty of the American people, as expressed through their law-making power (the defining function of the sovereign), is maintained by imposition and force.

      This applies today to the extent the rule of law still holds in this country, which is less than it should do, because Americans have chosen 30 hours of television per week instead of diligently striving to keep their hired help in government under control as the Founders warned would be necessary. Unsurprisingly, the pretend “alternative” media is no help in correcting this negligence.

      I’m not an attorney. Are you?

       
      • J.M.

        January 4, 2014 at 4:38 AM

        Martens,
        @ > I don’t like or dislike this word. I use it where it applies. It applies here because that is how the sovereignty of the American people was acquired: by imposition, by force.

        WOW !!! The American people were FORCED to be Sovereign ??? Ok, if you say so. I have not seen anyone take issue with your position but the majority are generally known to be right. On the other hand maybe they see you are beating me to a pulp & are simply just too nice to add to the injury, humiliation,etc. They are not heartless or ruthless.

        @ > I’m not an attorney. Are you?

        Although you are beating me into smithereens, pulverizing me, to put it mildly, STILL, I don’t think I am THAT incompetent. I have to toot my own whistle as no one else will. However I am not a pied piper & I will not ask you if you are. Do you like to play racquet ball ? By the way, you never did answer my first question a while back. I’ll try one last time. What is your opinion of 1 Corinthians 15, verse 39? Here is what it says in pertinent part,> “Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, …… Yes, you have inadvertently said you have a different kind of flesh than people,so are you an alien from another planet? If you travel around in a small car, & would really like to have more “space” I have a large one (car) I will give you. I’m serious. Why, simple. I like you. I need all the spaced out, excuse me, out of space friends I can get. All this aside, I think you & I are going to end up being friends. I would like to be right about something.

         
      • Martens

        January 4, 2014 at 10:06 AM

        J.M. “The American people were FORCED to be Sovereign???”

        The opposite, actually. The American people acquired their sovereignty by using force, i.e. through revolution: “…at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people…” (Chisholm v. Georgia, 1793).

        “What is your opinion of 1 Corinthians 15, verse 39?”

        I answered this on the other page.

        “I would like to be right about something.”

        You’re righter than you think, if I’m not wrong.

         
      • J.M.

        February 15, 2014 at 9:46 PM

        Martens
        @ You’re righter than you think, if I’m not wrong.
        In all honesty, I don’t know if you are right or wrong about this.Am I right, or, am I wrong?

         
  16. J.M.

    January 4, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Martens,
    @ >Property rights are a function of law, and law-making is a function of the sovereign. This is where the sovereign’s right to impose property taxes comes from.

    Then the sovereign people you, Martens, are referring to consists of one of the departments, excuse me, now it’s branches, e.g., like in branches stemming off from the main stream,so you mean by, sovereign people, the legislative branch. I say this because the “people” I am speaking of do not IMPOSE property taxes on themselves. BUT, I am convinced you are absolutely right. As I said before, the Supreme Court of the United States has warned, etc., about the “reversal” of the order of things per the original intent of the founding fathers.

    @ > I answered this on the other page.

    Will you be so kind as to cut & paste your answer here, on this page, as I cannot find it. Also, The Leader & commander in chief of this blog/site commented & asked you the following question, & I cannot find your response to that either.

    > Martens, if man is made in God’s image, and man is a “beast,” does it follow that God is also a “beast”? Or is God’s image merely that of a “beast”?

    Martens, I am thinking that you see a picture within a picture that at least I, if nobody else,can see. .

     
    • Martens

      January 4, 2014 at 2:27 PM

      J.M.

      The legislators make law in a representative capacity, under oath to act as public servants. So it’s really the American people, whom the legislators take a regular paycheck to represent, that is the law-making (i.e. sovereign) entity, as is acknowledged in the texts of the laws themselves.

      I answered your question about 1st Corinthians on “December 31, 2013 at 7:38 PM”. It’s too much to repost here. You can do a Ctrl+F for this time stamp to find it.

      As to the “beast” question, the answer by Jetlag will serve. God is not a beast because Ecclesiastes 3:18-19 says man is a beast. Likewise, God is not dust because Genesis 3:19 says of man “dust thou art”.

       
      • J.M.

        January 4, 2014 at 3:21 PM

        Martens,
        @ _As to the “beast” question, the answer by Jetlag will serve. God is not a beast because Ecclesiastes 3:18-19 says man is a beast. Likewise, God is not dust because Genesis 3:19 says of man “dust thou art”.

        Without more, I have to agree. BUT, there is more. Man IS like any physical thing, in the sense that we ARE dust (at this time) & we DO/will return to dust . BUT, this is not the rest, or, that’s all she wrote either of the story. Verse 21, gives a clue.> Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

        We (Mankind) have a resurrection to look forward to, happily for some.& unhappily for others, or maybe some others look forward to being thrown into the lake of fire. Nowhere in the Holy Bible does it say that ANYTHING else will be resurrected,at least that I know of.. I agree we are like beasts in the sense that just like them, we are dust & we will die. There is not any difference in that sense. Also, I hope it is understood that no matter what I say, I am saying > this is my understanding of the matter/subject, etc. I am a student trying to learn. I am not a know it all about anything except one thing. I know I am not too bright, like the song says, I’m just an old chunk coal, but I hope to be a diamond someday.

        Martens, just tell me the thread your answer is on re: 1 Corinthians 15:39. I do not know much about a computer & how to use one, except how to turn it on & off. I clicked Ctrl + F & nothing happened.

         
      • J.M.

        February 9, 2014 at 11:00 AM

        Martens
        @ The legislators make law in a representative capacity, under oath to act as public servants

        They are very poor actors. Think it’s way past time for the curtain to fall. I’ve seen enough of this SHOW.

         
    • J.M.

      January 4, 2014 at 2:30 PM

      Whoops,
      @ > I I meant, I “cannot” see the picture within the picture that you see.

       
  17. Timmy

    January 4, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    Thanks Bob, for the nice compendium of SCOTUS cites. Very interesting…

     
  18. Timmy

    January 4, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    If you don’t believe that every single item in the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, etc. is completely, totally and tightly controlled for content, you are (with all respect, friends) living in lala land. Sure there are some good people in media, government and everywhere else. But the major outlets are ruled with an iron hand (fist) from above. Ask any reporter or editor…

     
    • J.M.

      January 5, 2014 at 12:57 AM

      Timmy,
      @_But the major outlets are ruled with an iron hand (fist) from above. Ask any reporter or editor…

      Yes. I know this, although I do not believe any EDITOR will fess-up. I have had some first hand experience with this problem. Make the news about crimes I am accused of & much later when I am found to be innocent, the same newspaper & news reports refused to print or say anything re: that. They had planted a poison seed & no way were they going to uproot it. But I KNOW why.

      However, I believe if i was able to see through this, Snowden ordeal, as you do, I would feel & think the same way as you do,re: Snowden. Please allow me to say something that I do understand, & it appears that very few do. First I know you will agree that the creator of anything is superior to that which he/she/they created. IF you disagree, don’t waste your time reading any further. Presuming you do agree, & re: the Supreme Court decisions you thanked Bob for, here is the problem. Those decisions were made BEFORE most members of A Congress undoubtedly saw a way to get around those decisions, make them of historical interest only. They created a citizenship for a people that did not exist at the time. Without going into detail, unless you ask me for irrefutable proof, which I wish you would, just allow me to say this much. TODAY, & beginning in 1935, but TODAY, You, I, & everyone are considered as this type / status of citizen as created by & beginning with the 39th Congress. Now, let’s just presume & only for the sake of a point, this is true. How can we be superior to the body of government that “bestowed” upon us, our status? The creator is superior to the created. You & I saying we ARE NOT one of those citizens won’t get anything changed, IN THE MINDS of the enemy. I do believe I know a way to get around it, I have done it, & I am being left alone, HERE, Locally. I was hounded every day, followed, etc & I am not paranoid, at least to an unhealthy degree. My paranoia is healthy. Some of us can see things that others cannot, & vice versa. This is where we can be of help to each other. By, we, I mean any & all who put The Almighty Eternal God #1 in our life. I would love to tell others I am in with a sister/brother that has a better smeller than I do. I call her/him my bloodhound. He/she can smell a crime in progress & not even be near it. Best to you Timmy.

       
  19. Mladen

    January 4, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    This may help both “J.M.” and “Marten” with respect to the discussion about man being a beast.

    First of all, God created man in His image and God is not an animal or a beast.

    Secondly, it is unfortunate that instead of reading the Holy Bible first what most people wrongly try to do is that they have a conclusion that is not founded on the Bible and they take things out of context to try to make it look like the Bible supports their private interpretation, which it does not.

    What makes things even more difficult is that even though there is only one “Authorized” version of the Holy Bible, which is the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible, there are many perversions of the bible that add to or delete the Word of God and these blasphemies change the meaning. For example, the Jehovah’s Witness bible is highly perverted in a legalized way and in Psalm 49 the write of the “High kind” being man and the “Low kind” being human. To be clear, a man is a man. But, a human is not a man even though it may have some characteristics of a man. That is why cartoons are called “Animation” because animals are given the characteristics of men, such as walking and talking. Also, to be clear, a “Hu-man” is not a man and it only has a colour or hue of a man, and so the law for humans is the colour of law. God’s law is for man. Human colour of law is for humans (animals, beasts).

    In the secular (God-less) world of humans (animals, beasts) one must apply, volunteer and consent to their own lawful slavery by being the bearer of property that does not belong to them, which is the “Legal Name” of the “Legal Person” shown in upper case letters on the State (Provincial BIRTH CERTIFICATE [or Federal CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATE] and being surety (guarantor, warrantor) for it. It is a dead and artificial entity and they need you to energize, impersonate and surety their dead entity. The father of the lie has most of the world fooled under his clever subversion of supposed justice under the colour of law, which is the legal system of the secular world that denies God, denies Christ and denies God’s graced pardon through acceptance of Christ. Satan even adds an unnecessary debtor surname to identify all the unbelievers who energize, impersonate and surety the dead. That is why they summon the dead into their synagogue of Satan secular courts to see what ignoramus will show up to energize, impersonate and surety the dead!

    All this is because people reject God in favour of trying to be in charge as their own little gods. The father of the lie continues to present his false offer and lie to each and every individual through the standardized worldwide VITAL STATISTICS ACT and the secular birth registration system that creates a dead entity as shown on the BIRTH or CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATES. There is nothing new under the sun.
    —– Mladen

     
    • J.M.

      January 5, 2014 at 2:55 AM

      Mladen,
      Thank you for your heartfelt & thoughtful message of/on January 4, 2014 at 10:38 PM

      Let me cut to the chase. What needs to be done to right the wrongs we have done & right the wrongs that have been done to us ?

      Also, as far as taking anything out of context, from anything, not just the Holy Bible, I do not knowingly do this. I do believe there are situations where we need to research every scripture re: the subject matter to arrive at at least an intelligent conclusion but I do not need to research the scriptures when I see, for example, “Jesus wept.” Do not steal,Do not bear false witness, etc.
      Most of us, if not all, had three strikes against us when we were born as pertains to gov-co control. & subject to ITS jurisdiction (<singular) I am forced to think when we unravel what has happened, there will be other things we are not aware of that will need to be set straight, corrected, etc. Then, who knows what else has been done to make us "SUBJECTS" that we may never know of/about??

      To say, come out of Babylon,doesn't say enough. When we don't know where we are going, any road will take us there. Agreed ?
      By the way, I watched many of the videos & they, the ones I saw tell more of the truth about how it really is, the police brutality, etc. We need to be like palani, & show them our 5 dollar gold piece. Trouble is, "THEY," stole all my gold & silver too. I would literally be a millionaire today if I still had it It's a long story. SO, anyway, what is the solution? But, be specific. Shalom, my friend.

      P.S. I am familiar with the "name issue, the birth certificate issue, The S.S.N issue. The person issue & some more issues to tedious to list. I have tried to "correct" all this but I won't bore you with the details. Here is a hint. I personally believe affidavits are powerful but by just saying that much, only brings on brutal condemnation from those who think otherwise. To each his own. That's why we have vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, peach, & so on. Right ??

       
    • J.M.

      February 4, 2014 at 5:05 AM

      @This may help both “J.M.” and “Marten” with respect to the discussion about man being a beast.

      Mladen you are so shallow. You cannot help me in any manner, so quit trying. You are wasting your time. I know in your pompous mind you disagree. I know you say things like you are just trying to help but what it really is, you are wanting people to see how smart you are. I say you are shallow because it takes one to know one.But, there degrees of shallowness

       
    • J.M.

      February 9, 2014 at 11:06 AM

      Hi Mladen
      PLEASE answer this question even if it is a rhetorical question. What do you do for a living, or asking the same thing in a different way, what is your profession,or what is your trade?

       
  20. Timmy

    January 10, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    “It was originally reported that the number of documents Snowden had stolen was in the thousands. Today, however, that number is said to be nearly two million. This calls into question Snowden’s early statement, as reported by Greenwald, that he “carefully evaluated every single document to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest.” The huge, new number also reveals that less than one tenth of one percent of the documents (only about 900) have actually been released to the public.

    How could Snowden have “carefully evaluated every single” one of what is now being said to be nearly two million documents?”

     
    • J.M.

      January 10, 2014 at 11:13 PM

      @How could Snowden have “carefully evaluated every single” one of what is now being said to be nearly two million documents?”

      No way,or 2 B more precise, there is not any way HE ALONE can do this.
      I have hoped that someday I would be able to say something you will agree with me on. I think this is it. But coming from me, maybe you still don’t.
      p.s. I like your “stamp of approval” comment. Indeed I do.

       
    • Mike

      January 11, 2014 at 5:09 AM

      Your point is well taken as he clearly could not; however, when “government” gets as totally out of its box as the gov. of the US of A is now, everything should be revealed to the governed. The real terrorist who are a threat to the US of A now are those tasked with protecting her.

       
      • J.M.

        January 14, 2014 at 7:08 PM

        Hi Mike,
        You are right, in my opinion, but it appears to me that some people commenting on this blog, do not like what Edward Snowden did. I appreciate what he did. I say this with the understanding I have which may turn out to be a misunderstanding. AND, I say this because others have let me know I am blinder than a bat. Bats still get around pretty good tho,don’t they.

         
      • Mike

        January 14, 2014 at 7:44 PM

        Right you are…they manage to feed themselves just fine. I too appreciate what Snowden did…even if he revealed what gov. co. considers state secrets. If there are state secrets that, if revealed, would put the troops in danger, that is easily solved by bringing them all home, now!

        While I do still support Snowden at this point, there may be reason to question Greenwald’s motives…why the dribble instead of a front lawn dump? Plus, many other issues raised by Sible Edmonds? There is a related roundtable discussion video over at boilingfrogspostdotcom…go to videos, roundtable, Dec. 19 if interested.

         
    • J.M.

      January 14, 2014 at 7:20 PM

      “It was originally reported that the number of documents Snowden had stolen ….

      Well I do declare. You do believe some things you read about don’t you? OR maybe you heard this. I think that is considered, hearsay. What is your source of info re:these “stolen” items, papers, documents? Oh never mind. There’s a lot of cherry pickers on this blog.

       
  21. Adask

    January 15, 2014 at 1:28 AM

    Of course, Snowden is worried about being prosecuted for having released documents. I’ll bet that he’s personally reading through that haystack of documents looking for documents that have public significance, but perhaps also choosing to not release documents that might cause some of the US soldiers, spies or diplomats to be killed.

    If Snowden is eventually captured (or even turns himself in) and anyone has died because of Snowden’s release of documents, Snowden’s chances of being exonerated will be significantly reduced. However, if Snowden can show evidence that he specifically did not release documents that might’ve caused some American deaths, his chances of being exonerated are much higher.

    This may also explain why Snowden doesn’t just dump all the documents at once. He’s probably leaking only those documents that hurt big government, but don’t place any government officers, emloyees or soldiers in danger.

     
    • Mike

      January 15, 2014 at 9:13 AM

      Hmm, I seem to remember that Snowden supposedly turned all the documents over to Greenwald (His controller?) before going to Russia. I’m not sure, but do seem to remember that being how he assured the Russia gov. that he would not release any documents from there. However, it is true that we do not really know and probably never will know the truth vs. what “they” want us to know.

      Two scenarios; 1. This whole thing was planned by gov. co., we are being duped and they are covering for themselves by being able to say, we told you what we were doing….obviously bad for us (suckers) and there are no heroes. 2. Snowden actually did what we are told he did and has no say in how the docs are released…in my book, this makes him a hero of the people and an enemy of the gov…I see no contradiction therein. This does however, put some serious questions in the direction of Greenwald’s motives.

      I’ll go for a third scenario, this whole government experiment is a nightmare and I will awaken in a free world where no one wants to give the chosen ones, via their votes, the right to use force to control me. This is obviously a dream that has 0.0 chance of happening as it seems that most everyone wants to magically give others, via their votes, rights that even they do not have.

       
  22. Lex Mercatoria

    February 13, 2014 at 7:46 PM

    J.M.,
    @> “IF you think I’m that stupid you are sadly mistaken my friend. You tell the “people who count” as you call them that you are not a person but you have a person & you are in for a competency hearing by a STATE PAID Psycho. He/She counts too !!!”

    I don’t think you’re stupid at all. If they get you to the point of scheduling you for a competency hearing then you’ve probably consented to something or recognized something (same thing) without realizing it.

    We shouldn’t focus so much on what we are not. It is what we are that matters. I wouldn’t tell them I’m not a person. As to what you are, well… That is your “political election,” your “self determination” as the system folks would say and they will not make that determination for you.

    Identity is the only issue that matters, all else being a smokescreen for unless YOU resolve that issue in their favor they cannot proceed.

     
    • J.M.

      February 15, 2014 at 10:38 PM

      @ >Identity is the only issue that matters, all else being a smokescreen for unless YOU resolve that issue in their favor they cannot proceed.

      I sincerely thank you, Lex Mercatoria for your response & concern. Here’s the problem, or one of them. Most of my day to day activities consist of things that require a license FROM U no who. I do not have any licenses. Now please don’t misunderstand. I believe if I wanted to be a Taxi Cab driver, I should have a license for that. BUT, if I want to get in my “mode of conveyance” which I call my automobile, & come to visit with you & chat a while, I don’t believe I need a driver license, license plates, etc to do this. Ok, so the peace officer notices “something suspicious” about my “ID” plate & pulls me over & you know what happens next. When I show my made a matter of public record ” Affidavit of Positive Identification of (my name & family name) this not a driver license etc. & this is what he/she wants. Anyway instead of getting into all the different things that can happen next, the best of everything is, I am issued several citations with a court date set for “me” to appear & it does not matter how I sign the ticket or go to jail choice is ,e.g. T.D.C, etc. Ok, They get us into their “court” one way or the other. My experience EVERY TIME is, it is a court of no record. All the magistrate is required to have is, a high school education or G.E.D. I’m presuming you, Lex, know what a trial de novo is. Anyway, these courts of no record proceed like a bulldozer beginning to tear a building down. They don’t care 1 iota about anything you have sent in advance & NOT to be filed with their court, but sent ONLY for the purpose of showing your status,etc. It doesn’t matter to those courts of no record. Those courts have what is called “contempt power.” I f you are dragged in in jail attire & choose to remain silent,you can be found in contempt of court for that. If you say I stand on my affidavits of facts opposing venue, & my affidavit of positive Identification & further I say not, you can be found in contempt for that. I KNOW for I have been. It is impossible to get the whole story across like this. Communicating this way. They are not called courts of no record for no reason. I wish I knew what you know & I wish you knew what I am aware of. this would help clear out a lot of unnecessary clutter. BUT I can tell, you know more than the average Joe Blow, & a LOT MORE. I can sense this. Anyway, Thanks. I am not notified of any new comments, but I’ll keep coming back here when I can think of it to see the latest. Right now, I am having a herd um in herd um out on the newest MOOA thread way ahead of this one. shalom, my friend, Lex Mercatoria. After this posts, if it does, THEN I will see my typos, errors, etc.

       
    • J.M.

      February 17, 2014 at 7:44 PM

      @ > If they get you to the point of scheduling you for a competency hearing then you’ve probably consented to something or recognized something (same thing) without realizing it

      I have never ever had the pleasant experience of trying to reason with reasonable, ethical, morally upright, decent, honorable gov-co agents. Do you know what tyrants are? Are you Lex, telling me that tyrants follow anything other than their own power mad lusts? What the hell does a tyrant care about procedure,etc.? NOW, I do know that in the beginning stage where a case is in a “Court of Record” & IT IS a Statutory Court of Record” & I KNOW you know this, Lex, Yes, it is not AS Tyrannical, still, every effort is made on their part to make us DO or SAY something that voids our position. WE can APPEAL from that court. BUT THEN when the Court of Appeals says the lower courts ORDER is INVALID & MADE WITHOUT AUTHORITY & REVERSES THE INVALID MADE WITHOUT AUTHORITY ORDER BUT AFFIRMS THE CONVICTION OF THE ACCUSED FOR NOT HONORING BY OBEYING THE MADE WITHOUT AUTHORITY INVALID ORDER BECAUSE OF THE LOWER COURT’S “CONTEMPT POWER”, please give me a break Lex, PLEASE. YES !!! The SUPREME COURT AGREED WITH THE COURT OF APPEALS. ………. NEXT !!!!

       
    • J.M.

      February 18, 2014 at 1:43 PM

      Thanks Lex, you have been a BIG help. Thanks much.

       

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