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America’s Largest Cocaine Smuggler Revealed: the DEA

27 Jan

In order to nab 20% of the cocaine smugglers, the DEA cut deals with the Mexican supplier of 80% of the cocaine.

We don’t have a government running this country.  We have a gang.

If we had a government, its officers and employees would work for the best interests of the American people.  It does not.  Instead, our government works for it’s own best interests and whichever “special” interests pay Congressmen the most money. Today, government does not “serve and protect” the people; it serves and protects itself and “special” (even criminal) interests.

Our federal government is morally indistinguishable from the Bloods, Crips, Mexican Mafia and Aryan Brotherhood.  They are each just a bunch of immoral, self-serving gangs and thugs.

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207 responses to “America’s Largest Cocaine Smuggler Revealed: the DEA

  1. #AceNewsGroup

    January 27, 2014 at 6:46 AM

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  2. AKA John Galt

    January 27, 2014 at 6:46 AM

    Reblogged this on U.S. Constitutional Free Press.

     
  3. Harry Skip Robinson

    January 27, 2014 at 8:29 AM

    When 60 minutes caught the CIA smuggling cocaine into the US. in the late 1980’s, the individuals in charge said it was for a reverse sting, as they are partially claiming here. However, they almost never seem to be doing this to catch the bankers who are laundering the money which puts their claims into question. Whose laundering all the money?

     
    • J.M.

      January 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM

      Whose laundering all the money?
      Whirlpool.

       
  4. Mladen

    January 27, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Alfred, I cannot understand why you do not understand that what you are doing is voluntarily consenting to participate in a government that you are not supposed to be a participating member of, but you volunteer and consent to be a member of, and you consistently complain about every minute aspect of a secular government that you are not supposed to be part of in the first place.

    In other postings you infer that you have a Christian belief in God and Christ. Take note that the “United States of America” does not have the word God anywhere in their preamble to or the actual US constitution. Therefore, the Federal United States was never a Christian nation to begin with. This contradicts the individual US States because all 50 of them acknowledge the Supremacy of God with different wording [ for a summary see http://aetherical.blogspot.ca/ ] in their preambles (reasoning for being) to their individual State constitutions.

    So, why are you confusing man’s democracy with anything having to do with the opposite, which is the Theocracy of God? Man’s government is opposed to God. Its good versus evil. And, man’s government never had anything to do with protecting God’s people. To believe so would simply be naïve and/or ignorant. Just because God allows man’s secular government, which is evil by design, to rule over their own evil participant members does not mean that God approves of it, He simply allows it for the time being since most of the people betray God by using their free will to volunteer and consent to be participating members of an evil secular government.

    So, Alfred, since you and approximately 350 million other people volunteer and choose to be members of a secular (God-less) government, you must adhere by their rules. What makes you think that the secular government was ever made to cater to any individual when they do not? The secular government caters to their own fiction, and a fiction is a lie. The Holy Bible says that God’s people perish for lack of knowledge (ignorance). In their ignorance (lack of knowledge) the living individual people do not even understand that the living are energizing and impersonating the dead,
    The individual people “Play” or “Act” under the persona (mask) of the dead and artificial secular
    “Citizen” or “Civilian” and they become the “Surety” (guarantor, warrantor) for “It” under an ancient system of pledging via the secular birth registration system. And, the secular birth has nothing to do with a living child! That is why the Provincial or State Registrar General has no problem admitting that the Provincial or State BIRTH CERTIFICATE does not identify a living individual!

    Everybody’s ignorant participation in secular society makes them part of the common or collective (aggregate). The English dictionaries defined the original meaning of common to mean something bad, inferior, not good. The British-based House of Commons is the house of prostitutes, whores, or mercenaries and none of that can be any good. The commonality is referred to in man’s laws (legislation, statutes, or the misnomer of so-called “Positive law”, because there is nothing positive about it) as “Every person” —- which is only referring to the common or collective or aggregate. Now, I cannot speak for anybody else, but I believe that people would call me crazy if I though I was both an individual and an “Every person” or collective/aggregate at one and the same time. But, if I was that ignorant to think that I was “Every person” than I would certainly have to comply to the rules that apply to that dead artificial “Every person”, which is a fiction (lie) created by the fiction (lie) government that does not even exist in reality. William Shakespeare was right when he observed that “The world is a stage” and most people do not realize that they are the players or actors in a play in which they do not know the script (plot).

    Even a child could understand that you are either in or out of secular society. And, if you are in then you must comply with the rules of the artificial secular society that you apply, volunteer and consent to be part of. So, why are you complaining? You used your free will to be part of something that you never should have joined and in your ongoing ignorance you bitch and complain about every aspect of an artificial secular society that you never should have joined in the first place. This is not rocket science. God’s will is expressed clearly and unequivocally in the Holy Bible and friendship with the (secular) world is enmity with God (see James 4:44 [KJV]). God’s people were never supposed to be part of Caesar’s secular (God-less) world. That is why God’s people are admonished to “Come out of her” (see Revelation 18:4 [KJV]).

    The only thing in common with every complaint about secular society or its infinite conspiracy theories is that there are no inherent solutions from within. The only solution is to not be a part of it. All the rest (bitching and complaining) is a senseless waste of time, energy and breath. As we explained in our YouTube video on our ChristianRemedyInLaw channel about 6 weeks ago, democracy is simply evil government ruling over evil man.
    —- Mladen [ child52of144@hotmail.com ]
    [ NOTE: Please excuse me for expressing my alleged right to free speech, which is not free as long as one is a member of secular society]

     
    • Adask

      February 4, 2014 at 5:56 PM

      One of the readers of this blog identifies himself as “Mladen” posted a fairly long comment(above) that falsely accused me of various thoughts, attitudes and conduct. The allegations were simply stupid.
      I generally don’t like to get into these idiotic “pissing contests” (especially with someone whose bladder is as big a Mladen’s). So didn’t post Mladen’s original comment (dated January 27th) and I didn’t post my answer. At least not until now.
      Unfortunately, I sometimes get into a mood to deal with stupid, and today was one of those days. I shouldn’t have wasted my time, but I had fun responding to Mladen.
      Nothing too profound here. Just some tabloid-like gossip as two grown men engage in a pissing contest.
      Each instance of Mladen’s original segments of text begins with a dot (“•”) and is in quotes. The remainder of the text is my response.

      • “Alfred, I cannot understand why you do not understand that what you are doing is voluntarily consenting to participate in a government that you are not supposed to be a participating member of, but you volunteer and consent to be a member of, and you consistently complain about every minute aspect of a secular government that you are not supposed to be part of in the first place.”
      Mladen, I cannot understand why you do not understand that writing a 68-word sentence defeats your apparent intent to communicate an idea. Shorter sentences make for clearer communication.
      I also don’t understand why you claim that I am “voluntarily consenting to participate in a government that you are not supposed to be a participating member of”. What evidence do you have of my voluntary participation in that government?
      I don’t have a Drivers license, voters registration, government-issued passport, registered automobile, mail address card at the local Post Office, credit cards, debit cards, checking account, telephone or utilities in my name. I’m old enough to collect Social Security, but I don’t take that money from the government. So, what is it exactly that you think I’m doing to “voluntarily consent to participate in any modern, secular government”?
      If you don’t have any evidence of whatever you allege that I’m doing to “voluntarily consent to participate” in the current de facto government, why did you insult me by making such a stupid accusation?
      More, I’ll bet that your own voluntary participation in the current “secular government” is far greater than any participation you could find in me. Do you have a drivers license, voters registration, government-issued passport, registered automobile, mail address card at the local Post Office, credit cards, debit cards, checking account, telephone or utilities in your name. If you do, your accusation against me wouldn’t merely be stupid, it would be hypocritical.

      • “In other postings you infer that you have a Christian belief in God and Christ.”
      So, I “infer” that I’m a Christian—is that right? I might go along with a claim that I “imply” that I’m a Christian. I’d certainly go along with a claim that I have stated in no uncertain terms that I’m a Christians, but your claim that I “infer” that I’m a Christian tells me that either you or I need to crack open a dictionary and relearn the meaning of “infer”.
      Worse, your comment seems to imply that I do not have a Christian belief in God and Christ. If that’s your opinion, what’s your evidence? If you don’t have any evidence to support your seeming opinion, why do you insult me with such a stupid allegation?
      If you think you can make false claims about a man’s faith and get away with it, you be dumb.

      • “Take note that the “United States of America” does not have the word God anywhere in their preamble to or the actual US constitution. “
      Take note that I don’t give a damn about “United States of America” nor do I care much about the singular “United States”. My primary political concern is with the confederation and perpetual Union styled “The United States of America” and its various member-States.
      Take note that insofar you apparently don’t know the difference between “The United States of America” and “United States of America,” you be dumb. Worse, you lack humility in that you don’t have brains enough to appreciate and compensate for your own ignorance.
      You apparently suppose that “United States of America” was created by the Constitution of the United States. If so, your supposition is false. Insofar as you use that supposition as a premise for your next argument and conclusion, that argument and conclusion are also false.
      While it’s true that the Constitution of the United States does not include the word “God,” it does include the 1st Amendment which protects our freedom of religion and the 9th Amendment which opens the door to making claims on the God-given, unalienable Rights declared in the “Declaration of Independence”. If God isn’t expressly mentioned, the federal Constitution still provides ample opportunity to reach God through the 1st and 9th Amendments.
      If the authors of the Constitution didn’t believe in and recognize the existence of God, why did they provide avenues to Him in the Constitution?
      The fact that the word “God” does not appear in the Constitution of the United States is no more significant than the fact that the word “trees” does not appear in that Constitution. Does the absence of the word “trees” prove that there were never any forests in this country?
      How ‘bout “toilets”? There’s also no mention of “toilets” in the Constitution. Do you suppose that’s evidence that all of the Founders always crapped in the woods? (Oh, wait, there’s no “woods” mentioned in the Constitution, so they couldn’t do that, either, could they?)
      OK, how ‘bout “gravity”? The word “gravity” is also missing from the Constitution. Does that mean the Founders didn’t have gravity back in the day? That they couldn’t afford gravity? That they weren’t subject to gravity?
      The fact that “God” is not expressly mentioned in the Constitution proves nothing. Your “brilliant” insight concerning the absence of the word “God,” however, does prove something: you may not be as bright as you suppose.

      • “Therefore, the Federal United States was never a Christian nation to begin with. This contradicts the individual US States because all 50 of them acknowledge the Supremacy of God with different wording [for a summary see http://aetherical.blogspot.ca/ ] in their preambles (reasoning for being) to their individual State constitutions.”
      I agree that the constitutions of the States of the Union are generally closer to God than the Constitution of the United States. But the “United States” created by the Constitution of the United States appears to be a trust which was intended to recognize the States of the Union as its beneficiaries. Insofar as the States of the Union were composed of people and the vast majority of those people were Christians, the Constitution of the United States was intended, in part, to protect those States of the Union, their people and their Christian beliefs in God.
      Your claim that the “Federal United States was never a Christian nation to begin with” is absurd. Any fool understands that the Christian faith—especially the Protestant faith—lay at the foundation of this nation and most Americans in the late 18th century espoused the Christian faith. Your claim that the “Federal United States was never a Christian nation to begin with” is tantamount to claiming that a nation of people who were undeniably and overwhelmingly Christian nevertheless ratified a Constitution that was at least indifferent to, and probably antagonistic to, Christianity is ridiculous.
      As I said, you be dumb.

      • “So, why are you confusing man’s democracy with anything having to do with the opposite, which is the Theocracy of God?”
      Once again, you are making idiotic claims. Where is your evidence that I have confused “man’s democracy” with the Theocracy of God? I don’t believe you have such evidence and I’m sure you can’t produce any such evidence from this century.
      I understand very clearly that “democracy” is a collectivist form of government virtually identical to socialism and communism. I understand why democracy is necessarily ungodly. I’ve had that understand since circa A.D. 2000, and I’ve written about it on several occasions.
      I doubt that you, on the other hand, have sufficient understanding of the fundamental nature of democracy to see why it’s fundamentally identical to socialism and communism. But, given your apparent ego and/or arrogance, that ignorance still wouldn’t stop you from making stupid claims, would it?
      Mladen, you reason like a drunk. If you’re not a drunk, then you must merely be an incompetent.

      • “Man’s government is opposed to God. Its good versus evil.”
      That’s sometimes true, but it’s not necessarily true. Read Romans 13:1 which declares, “Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.” The Bible makes clear that at least some earthly governments have existed which were “appointed by God”.
      Therefore, your generalization that “Man’s government is opposed to God. Its good versus evil,” is not always true and is therefore a false generalization.

      • “And, man’s government never had anything to do with protecting God’s people. To believe so would simply be naïve and/or ignorant.”
      Again, your generalization (“never”) is false. Read the second and third sentences of the “Declaration of Independence”. If you can, try to comprehend their meanings. They’ll tell you that this nation started with the premise that we all received our most important rights from God and that the prime objective of our new State governments was to protect those God-given rights.
      It may be that most governments were never dedicated to protecting God’s people, but the first governments created in what became “The United States of America” were dedicated to protecting the rights we each received from God and was therefore apparently dedicated to protecting God’s people.
      You’re in over your depth in this one, Mladen. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • “Just because God allows man’s secular government, which is evil by design, to rule over their own evil participant members does not mean that God approves of it, He simply allows it for the time being since most of the people betray God by using their free will to volunteer and consent to be participating members of an evil secular government.”
      I generally agree with your previous statement with this exception:
      It’s not just God who allows governments to be “evil by design,” it’s the people under that government that allow it to be evil. God implies in Romans 13:1 that the only legitimate governments are those whose authority is derived from God. It would seem to that if a government is not derived from God it has no lawful authority. God didn’t expressly say, so far as I know, that man is obligated to overthrow a ungodly government (one that is not derived from God’s authority), but He apparently left that option open.
      The “Declaration of Independence” declared: 1) we are each endowed by God with certain unalienable Rights; 2) the primary object of government is to secure those God-given, unalienable Rights; and 3) “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”.
      “Despotism” appears to be characterized by the suppression of all men’s God-given, unalienable Rights. In response to such wickedness, the Founders declared it was our “duty” to overthrow the godless bastards ruling this country. If We the People lack the brains and the balls to overthrow an evil government, then God will allow us to stew in our own juices until we find the knowledge and courage needed to overthrow an ungodly government.
      But, again, it’s not just God who allows despotic government. It’s also the people who tolerate that government rather than resist and overthrow it. If you choose to suffer evil, go ahead and suffer it. It’s no skin off God’s nose.

      • “So, Alfred, since you and approximately 350 million other people volunteer and choose to be members of a secular (God-less) government, you must adhere by their rules.”
      Again, where is your evidence that I have volunteered and chosen to be a member of a secular (God-less) government? Without evidence your claim is at best stupid and at worst malicious.

      • “What makes you think that the secular government was ever made to cater to any individual when they do not?”
      What makes you think that I think what you accuse me of thinking? Where’s your evidence?
      If you have no evidence, you’ve made another claim that’s not only groundless and stupid, but also false. Insofar as you insist on making false claims, does that prove that you’re not merely stupid, malicious, and hypocritical but also a persistent liar?
      Or are you merely delusional? I.e., do you see a version of reality in your mind or imagination that does not correspond to objective reality? If it’s your habit to make claims against others that are as idiotic as your claims against me, maybe you should sign up for Obamacare and see if you can get some free psychiatric care.

      • “The secular government caters to their own fiction, and a fiction is a lie. The Holy Bible says that God’s people perish for lack of knowledge (ignorance). In their ignorance (lack of knowledge) the living individual people do not even understand that the living are energizing and impersonating the dead.
      No kidding?!! Well, golll-lee, I’d never thunk that before. Thanks ever so for explaining it to me.
      In fact, I and David De Reimer wrote separate articles back about A.D. 1993, where we both began to realize that the upper-case names like ALFRED N ADASK probably signified a fictional entity other than the living man with a name like “Alfred Adask”. I wrote a series of articles which described the fictional “ALFRED” as my “Evil Twin”. David De Reimer wrote an article entitled “It Ain’t Me” to describe the fiction known as “DAVID DE RIEMER”.
      Thus, I have not only been aware of much of the argument about fictions that you’re trying to advance, I helped to originate most of that argument twenty years ago.
      And, now—smart guy—you are going to explain it all to me?
      Well, do tell. I’m all ears.
      And speaking of “God’s people perishing for lack of knowledge (ignorance)”—I’m not sure if you’re one of God’s people, but you sure are ignorant.

      • “The individual people “Play” or “Act” under the persona (mask) of the dead and artificial secular “Citizen” or “Civilian” and they become the “Surety” (guarantor, warrantor) for “It” under an ancient system of pledging via the secular birth registration system. And, the secular birth has nothing to do with a living child! That is why the Provincial or State Registrar General has no problem admitting that the Provincial or State BIRTH CERTIFICATE does not identify a living individual!
      Nooo kidding?!
      Well, this is all just so fascinating!
      I can’t imagine why someone as smart as you hangs around a silly ol’ blog like this one. You should be writing your articles with all of your original thoughts and insights, and holding seminars, and explaining it all to the world—not just to me.
      In case you’ve missed my sarcasm, you are extolling ideas as if they were new that were common knowledge 10 to 20 years ago among those of us in the “patriot” and/or “legal reform” communities.
      I understand that anyone can get excited when they first discover a new insight, but it’s only rarely that any of us discovers something that hasn’t been discovered before.
      You, Mladen, are somewhat like a man coming ashore on Florida and claiming it as a new land on behalf of Portugal or Spain. In fact, Columbus, those claims have already been made, and not only made, but even forgotten. (Bin there, dun that. Understand?) You look a little silly wading ashore with a flag to plant in the ground to make your claim.

      • “Everybody’s ignorant participation in secular society makes them part of the common or collective (aggregate).”
      Not so. People have joined together in assemblies and associations for millennia without created a collective. Just because we talk to each other, live on the same street, and buy groceries at the same store does not mark us as members of a fictional “collective”.

      • “The English dictionaries defined the original meaning of common to mean something bad, inferior, not good. The British-based House of Commons is the house of prostitutes, whores, or mercenaries and none of that can be any good. The commonality is referred to in man’s laws (legislation, statutes, or the misnomer of so-called “Positive law”, because there is nothing positive about it) as “Every person” —- which is only referring to the common or collective or aggregate. Now, I cannot speak for anybody else, but I believe that people would call me crazy if I though I was both an individual and an “Every person” or collective/aggregate at one and the same time. But, if I was that ignorant to think that I was “Every person” than I would certainly have to comply to the rules that apply to that dead artificial “Every person”, which is a fiction (lie) created by the fiction (lie) government that does not even exist in reality. William Shakespeare was right when he observed that “The world is a stage” and most people do not realize that they are the players or actors in a play in which they do not know the script (plot).”
      Mladen, you’re just rambling like a child trying to show off his stamp collection. You seem to say, “Look, I’ve got this idea, and this idea, and this idea!” . . . . Well, that’s all very nice, sonny, but you’re not really associating all of your various ideas in a coherent manner. You’re not making much sense. You’re just trying to act like an adult, but you’re not pulling it off. Worse, you’re wasting my time.
      And where do you get off writing “Now, I cannot speak for anybody else”? You spoke for me by telling me what I think and do and worship without any evidence to support your claims. Did you mean to write “Now, I cannot speak for anybody else (except for Alfred Adask)”?

      • “Even a child could understand that you are either in or out of secular society. And, if you are in then you must comply with the rules of the artificial secular society that you apply, volunteer and consent to be part of. So, why are you complaining? You used your free will to be part of something that you never should have joined and in your ongoing ignorance you bitch and complain about every aspect of an artificial secular society that you never should have joined in the first place.”
      “Even a child could understand,” hmm? Well, if that’s so why don’t you understand that my complaints is not based on the secular society that I voluntarily joined.
      My complaint is that the secular society (like you) presumes that I voluntarily joined it when I did not. My complaint is that the “secular society” presumed to have joined me without my express knowledge or consent. My complaint is that the only society I ever joined voluntarily was that of the “people” of the States of the Union under the terms of The Organic Law of The United States of America. My complaint is that the “secular society” (which you appear to defend) has, by hook, crook and deceit, tried to deprive me of the society that’s guaranteed to me by our Organic Law.
      I complain on the blog in order to explain and expose the injustice and despotism practiced by the government’s “secular society”. I complain in hopes that I may inspire others to complain. I complain in hope that there might one day be enough “complainers” like myself to tear down the secular society and restore the constitutional society.
      What I do not understand is why you appear to defend this secular society. How could you be so stupid as to suppose that anyone would voluntarily and knowingly abandon the sort of society that’s protected by our constitutions and organic law and accept the secular society in its stead?
      Silly rabbit, you should understand that any joinder between myself and any society other than one protected within the State of the Union is based strictly on unstated presumptions made by the secular government. Your “secular society” is the fiction that no living man can every truly “join”.
      I have to wonder if your defense and justification of the “secular society” is evidence that you are a government agent seeking to deceive me and my readers and discredit the ideas and “complaints” advanced on this blog.
      If you are a government agent, it’s clear that you don’t have brains enough to play in this sandbox. I mean, where will the government find someone to hire as a troll for this blog who has brains enough to compete with not only me, but some of the others readers who comment regularly on this blog. There are more than a handful of formidable intellects on this blog—and you’re not one of them, Mladen. You’re a lightweight, sonny. You can’t hang. Y’ ain’t got game.
      But if you were a government agent, how else could it be? Ohh, you might make a fine government thug, knee-breaker or even assassin. But when it comes to brains, if you were smart enough to compete or even participate on this blog, you’d be too high up in government to spend your time making idiotic comments on this blog.

      • This is not rocket science. God’s will is expressed clearly and unequivocally in the Holy Bible and friendship with the (secular) world is enmity with God (see James 4:44 [KJV]). God’s people were never supposed to be part of Caesar’s secular (God-less) world. That is why God’s people are admonished to “Come out of her” (see Revelation 18:4 [KJV]).
      Again, sonny, I don’t have a drivers license, bank accounts, voters registration, government-issued passport, registered automobile, mail address card at the local Post Office, telephone or utilities in my name. I’m old enough to collect Social Security, but I don’t take that money from the government.
      I won’t say that’s enough to claim to have absolutely “come out of her” as per Revelation 18:4, but I’ll guarantee that I’m a lot further off the secular “grid” than 99.9% of Americans and probably a lot further “out of her” than you are, Mladen.
      And yet, you insult me without cause or evidence to claim that I’m up to my ears in this secular society. To reiterate: you be dumb, Mark.

      • “The only thing in common with every complaint about secular society or its infinite conspiracy theories is that there are no inherent solutions from within. The only solution is to not be a part of it. All the rest (bitching and complaining) is a senseless waste of time, energy and breath. As we explained in our YouTube video on our ChristianRemedyInLaw channel about 6 weeks ago, democracy is simply evil government ruling over evil man.”
      If you believe that I’m part of the godless “secular society,” then your complaints about me are seemingly also directed at that secular society. If that were true, and if such complaints and bitching are “a senseless waste of time, energy and breath,” why are you here? Aren’t your complaints and bitching against me also a senseless waste of time, etc.?

      • “—- Mladen [ child52of144@hotmail.com ]
      “[ NOTE: Please excuse me for expressing my alleged right to free speech, which is not free as long as one is a member of secular society]”
      I will be happy to excuse you for expressing your “alleged right to free speech”. But I’m not inclined to “excuse” your seemingly groundless attacks on my, my conduct, my intent and my character. That offends me. I’m also disinclined to excuse your apparent inability to “know your place”. You remind me of some 8th grade drop-out who’s armed with a can of spray paint and is determined to “have his say” but doesn’t really have much to say. We can give you a B- for passion and a D- for content.
      Also, when you write “Please excuse me for expressing my alleged right to free speech, which is not free as long as one is a member of secular society,” I don’t get it. Are you, or are you not, a “member of [the] secular society” which you condemn?
      You say that the right of free speech is “not free as long as one is a member of a secular society,” but you also refer to “my alleged right of free speech”. By using the word “alleged” you imply that you don’t’ have a right of free speech which, in turn, implies that you believe yourself to be a “member of [the] secular society”—which you condemn as godless and even evil.
      So which is it, Mladen—have you merely expressed yourself in an incompetent manner or have you inadvertently revealed yourself to be a member of the godless, evil, secular society?

      There’s a verse in the Bible at Proverbs 14:12 that reads, “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”
      I understand that verse to mean that we are all subject to embracing ideas that seem “right” to us—even though, in fact, those ideas are wrong and tend to lead to trouble and death. In other words, we are each subject to grabbing hold of false ideas an espousing them as absolute truth to others and even to ourselves based more on our egos and mistaken understanding than on truth. Unable to even imagine that we might be wrong about some idea, we embrace it, defend it and advocate it with great ferocity. But, despite all of our knowledge and honest sincerity, sometimes that idea leads towards death.
      For me, the lesson in Proverbs 14:12 is that we each need a little humility and even a measure of doubt when we embrace any idea. I think that real faith exists in an arena of doubt. The fact that you have some doubt, but proceed anyway may be evidence of your faith.
      When we claim to know something in an absolute sense, we are no longer proceeding in faith (which I suspect includes some measure of confusion and doubt) but instead proceeding based on a kind of idolatry wherein we effectively worship one idea or another as an absolute truth.
      An absolute truth is, for me, an implicit denial of faith. Because my faith is imperfect and because I’m afraid of my imperfect faith, I might be tempted to embrace my perception of what I deem to be an “absolute truth”. An “absolute truth” strikes me as a kind of crutch for a man who lacks the courage to face and embrace the uncertainties that may be inherent in virtually all “faiths”.
      Take Christianity, for an example. How many of you have actually seen the Christ? None.
      When was the last time anyone reported seeing the Christ in public places? 2,000 years ago.
      Don’t some intelligent and knowledgeable scholars argue that the Christ is a fictional person who never really existed? Yes.
      My point is that no matter how convinced many of us claim to be that the Christ was real, there is room for reasonable doubt.
      I’m not arguing that the Christ wasn’t real. I’m not arguing that you shouldn’t believe in Christianity. I’m arguing that a true faith recognizes the elements of doubt that are inherent in that faith but nevertheless chooses to believe.
      I am arguing that any man can discover a “way” that he sincerely believes to be absolutely right to him, but which may be so wrong that it could lead to his death.
      I am arguing that no matter how right our core beliefs may be, they are at least incomplete. Do you know what the Christ’s favorite color is? Do you know if the Christ like tacos or Chinese food? These are silly examples, of course. But insofar as you don’t know everything about the Christ, your belief in Him is at least slightly imperfect based on your ignorance and by that uncertainty. That, I suspect, may give your faith more value. You believe even though you recognize that you do not know; even though you know that your knowledge is incomplete.
      I could be wrong. My personal choice in believing that a true faith is, by definition, based on incomplete knowledge, may be one of those “ways” that a man can sincerely believe to be right and yet still lead to death. So, I equivocate. I approach all of my “beliefs” with a certain amount of uncertainty and doubt. I think that’s a good thing (though I could be wrong).
      But, when I see someone like Mladen who seems to believe he has perfect knowledge of all things, I just laugh. Nobody is that smart. The fact that Mladen advocates his ideas with such enormous conviction is, for me, possible evidence of Mladen’s fear of uncertainty and inability to deal with the unknown. For me, such apparent dependence on absolute certainty is evidence of significant fear and a lack of true (though necessarily imperfect) faith.

      I believe that approaching any of our faiths with some doubt about our own level of knowledge is healthy and even necessary. I suspect that Mladen may disagree with that contention.

       
      • J.M.

        February 4, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        Throw out the lifelines across the dark wave; There are brothers & sisters whom someone should save, Oh, who then will dare. To throw out the lifeline …Alfred Adask, he cared.

        Per your entire message, Wow !!! I told Mladen, earlier that I had a feelin he was crusin for a brusin, but I never expected him to be slaughtered.

         
    • J.M.

      February 5, 2014 at 9:56 PM

      @ >God’s people were never supposed to be part of Caesar’s secular (God-less) world. That is why God’s people are admonished to “Come out of her” (see Revelation 18:4 [KJV]).

      Once again for the umpteenth time, WHY were ALL of the Apostles slaughtered by the THEN gov-co of that time? I say ALL with the possible exception of John, the writer but not the author of the Book of Revelation

       
    • J.M.

      March 14, 2014 at 12:31 AM

      Mark, you say to Alfred Adask,

      @ >Alfred, I cannot understand why you do not understand……………………………..”

      Mark, once again, for about the 10th time, What is it you, Mark, do not understand about this question & the question is, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING?? What is SO HARD to UNDERSTAND about this question? If you do understand this question, why will you not answer it?

      This is food for thought to for anyone who may be interested. Why do you think Mark will not answer this question, as showing above?

       
  5. tony jones

    January 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM

     Hey Adask check out this kick stater film project- maybe make a comment about it?  tony

     
  6. Jetlag

    January 27, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    “Unless the mass retains sufficient control over those entrusted with the powers of their government, these will be perverted to their own oppression, and to the perpetuation of wealth and power in the individuals and their families selected for the trust.”

    – Thomas Jefferson, 1812

     
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      January 28, 2014 at 10:14 AM

      Jetlag – Jefferson was amazing. I think his concerns within the Constitution of the lack of recourse for the Citizens against judicially corruption and other improprieties was extremely prophetic.

      In my opinion we spend to all our time trying to influence the political system, when it is the judiciary that enforces the law, even when they are unconstitutional.

       
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 10:46 AM

        Ohh Skip, I forgot to ask you this. What are your thoughts re 15 Stat 223, that palani, who I deem to be another great asset to this blog, posted. Thanks, Skip.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM

        J.M. – 15 Stat 223 – the first internal revenue tax in the 1860s?

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 3:09 PM

        15 Stat 223 < re: expatriate(ion) from the U.S. I do not think it applies to me. My understanding of a "native born citizen" v. a "Natural Born Citizen" are 2 different things. my understanding of native born citizens, means & are, Indians, e.g. Cherokee, Sioux, & so on It is being discussed or at least was discussed on the last thread, at this time, on this blog The latest Radio Program thread.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM

        J.M. Most people are really Natural Born Citizens but instead choose, out of ignorance to be U.S. Citizens instead of Citizens of the United States. That’s the simple answer.

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 11:04 PM

        To my friend, Skip, I wanted to share the following with you.

        “As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air – however slight – lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.” – Justice of the Supreme Court, William O. Douglas

        Judge Learned Hand said:
        “Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; if it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it.”

        A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. Saul Bellow

        Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them.” S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane’s Administraters (3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54), Supreme Court of the United States 1795

         
      • Martens

        February 1, 2014 at 11:59 PM

        JM:

        That quote you posted from Penhallow v. Doane’s Administrators is a fake. Someone just made it up.

         
      • J.M.

        February 2, 2014 at 4:16 PM

        Skip,
        Re: Your message >February 2, 2014 at 1:41 PM

        If you will notice, there is no red letter “Reply” button to click on in the bottom right hand corner, & this is where messages begin to get out of chronological order & become confusing as to who is responding to what message,etc. I am sending this comment to you by scrolling up to a message from you, earlier Jan28,10:14am.that has a Reply button. I hope ALL of this comment post.

        Skip, Martens (< animal man) is another one that takes things I say out of context & only partially posts what I say, & this makes me appear more stupid than I am. Here is an example & you or anyone can see, by reading his & my comments yourself. I wrote on February !,11:05am

        "Lawless oppressors don’t give a damn about what the law is or says unless the law is oppressive law, to us, & that’s a fact too !!!

        Martens wrote on February 1, 7:48pm

        JM: “Lawless oppressors don’t give a damn about what the law is”

        See the difference? And he puts quotation marks around the statement too.He does things like this quite frequently. I do not know if you are aware of it, but Martens believes you are an ANIMAL. Alfred Adask KNOWS I am telling the truth. Martens does say, e.g. that "God" breathed into man the breath of life. I responded to Martens by asking him, Martens, did,or doesGod also have "animal breath?" He does not respond to many questions I ask him, including that question. I don't like to see some of these people start out with things they know some of us will "bite" & doing so only to gain our confidence & then, they later come up with something we may not understand & because they have gained our confidence, we think, well, I understand the same way everything else we discussed & then & there is where the leading astray begins. They do have a "way" of making what they say "sound good & right." Then off to & down primrose lane some of us go. I hope all of this message posts.

         
      • J.M.

        February 15, 2014 at 1:55 PM

        Skip,
        @ > Martens, good theory!!! Try prosecuting someone at the IRS or Justice.

        See what I mean? No response. He,Martens, does me the same way. If Martens cannot HOOK “some” of us, it’s like he puts his tail between his legs & slithers away. Doesn’t have the courtesy to say, thanks Skip, I see what you mean. Martens must be very PROUD of himself.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 15, 2014 at 2:34 PM

        J.M. as to Martens and others you never know what sided of the many isles they could be on. There are some very devious people in the world my friend and they often think that this makes them intelligent or that their intelligence leads them to be dishonest. You never know if someone is just ignorant or dishonest. Doesn’t this make you think of George W. Bush. lol.

         
    • Martens

      January 30, 2014 at 4:56 PM

      Also recall that when a government employee acts outside the law, his governmental immunities do not apply, and thus he is criminally liable in his individual capacity. In such cases, his actions are not an expression of the delegated powers of government he was hired by, and takes a regular paycheck from, the People to exercise.

       
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 30, 2014 at 5:55 PM

        Martens, good theory!!! Try prosecuting someone at the IRS or Justice.

         
      • Martens

        January 30, 2014 at 6:31 PM

        First off, it’s not a theory. It’s the law, in fact. Simply because a law is not being sufficiently enforced does not remove it from the books.

        Secondly, ridding government of its criminal elements is a job for the American body politic, not one person alone. Whenever the collect will of the People decides to rid the government of organized crime, it will happen, but not any time sooner.

        This is why the NWO (mostly through its news, entertainment, and astroturf media) does its utmost to weaken the will of the American body politic and reduce We the People to a me-first narcissistic mob which the bad guys can easily control (mostly through their news, entertainment, and astroturf media).

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 31, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        Martens, historically however the Citizens have had a difficult time removing the despots of government from their perches and thrones except by massive physical rebellion. However as soon as the rebellion is over, a new batch of despots appear out of nowhere to replace them. A never ending vicious cycle.

        I keep telling people, that until we stop legalizing the initiation of force and coercion, we will not be able to stop the conflict. To me that is pretty self evident. The question is can we have a government without it. I think we can but doing it is another issue. http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/ Repairing the scales of justice is the first step.

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        @ First off, it’s not a theory. It’s the law, in fact.
        Lawless oppressors don’t give a damn about what the law is or says unless the law is oppressive law, to us, & that’s a fact too !!!

         
      • Martens

        February 1, 2014 at 7:48 PM

        Harry Skip Robinson: “Martens, historically however the Citizens have had a difficult time removing the despots of government from their perches and thrones except by massive physical rebellion.”

        We’re not at the “despotism” stage yet. Real despots don’t operate behind a fiction of service to their subjects. The criminal mafia that hijacked our government admits, by lying to the People about its abuses and motives, that we are the stronger force.

        Those who want We the People to despair and give up fixing our government like using words and images that demoralize and cause inaction. The corrupt condition of our government requires goal-oriented action to restore the rule of law, not more excuses for more inaction.

        JM: “Lawless oppressors don’t give a damn about what the law is”

        Criminals often don’t care what the law is. That’s pretty typical and doesn’t matter. It’s what the law-abiding citizens think that matters.

        We the law abiding have the criminals hugely outnumbered and overpowered. All we lack is the will to act.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 2, 2014 at 1:41 PM

        Martens, Believing that you can significantly alter the political system through political means, which is ruled by an extremely power oligarchy, is defying 6,000 years of history. Very few times in history have the majority had true liberty and prosperity. We think that this is the way it is, therefore this is the way it is supposed to be. We are well passed the point of despotic rule and our current socio-economic problems provide the evidence. Economic despotism eventually leads to physical fascism and we have some evidence of this going on now. Police brutality and incarceration levels are two results but there are others. Political and judicial corruption is also very high right now.

        People fight over the rule of law and the power to tax, many purposefully to be in the various positions of power. Thinking that these type people will all of a sudden give up their power is a bit naïve in my opinion and those in power, actually rely on this naivety, playing the adversarial bipolar/two party system.

        I only contend that it is judicial activism, not political activism, that is the only significantly means of affecting the rule of law. I agree with everything else you say.

         
      • J.M.

        February 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        Martens,
        Why didn’t you respond to this? >Try prosecuting someone at the IRS or Justice.< This what you apparently overlooked. Yeah, right. CHERRY PICKER !!!

         
  7. Yartap

    January 27, 2014 at 11:05 PM

    What U.S. government agency(ies) brings in the heroin and marijuana from Afghanistan, where the US protects the growers and suppliers?

     
  8. Martens

    January 28, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    What else besides a classic business model of an organized crime syndicate would you expect from the organized crime syndicate that hijacked the People’s lawful government?

     
    • Mladen

      January 28, 2014 at 6:34 PM

      Have you considered the simplicity that the previous administration under the Monarchy borrowed to much to develop and expand their colonies to the point that they went bankrupt? Then, the Monarchy, being bankrupt, had nothing to pledge as collateral against their debt other than the made up titles [legal names via the BIRTH & CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATES] which they rent/lease for about 200 forms of taxes to the ignorant people? Nah. It could not be that simple, could it? So, the bankers who are the third party in the background now control it all because he who creates and issues the money cares not about what puppet government pretends to be in charge because they are pulling the puppet government’s strings in the background. Oh, and the poor ignorant little people actually think that they have a say in a system where they voluntary into their own lawful feudal slavery since the government has done nothing illegal. Fraud is not fraud as long as you consent to participate in it.

       
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 29, 2014 at 8:51 AM

        Mladen about as well said as possible. Economic slavery causes economic chaos and economic chaos causes social chaos. Social chaos can cause civil war or economic collapse or both. I think the banksters have premeditatedly caused the real estate boom and bust cycle sending our country into a deep period of stagflation. For them it’s probably an entertaining experiment to see how the natives react.

        The banksters are smart enough to know that government is much to large, but they are also smart enough to know that those in power will do just about anything to hold on to their power. They created the very beast that allows such a system to destroy it’s own prosperity.

        The notion that people through government central planning, are able to create a system that diminishes poverty and causes prosperity is intellectually dishonest and historically inaccurate yet the main stream media and politicians continue to spew forth, as Obama did last night, voluminous social memes, to fool the electorate. I made it three minutes into his speech before I had to turn to another channel. All one must do is go to down town Lake Worth, Florida and talk to the first 50 people you run into on the street to see how well the state of the Union is really doing. See how many homes are boarded up and abandoned, etc. etc. etc.

         
      • Mladen

        January 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM

        Thank you for your kind words, Harry Skip. It is good to know that there is at least one individual who is awake and listening to reality. Most people would rather ignore the truth and facts in law.

        Last night I came across an excellent article by Don Mashak, an American journalist at the |Minneapolis Independent Examiner. He wrote an article in about 7,000 words to educate everyone about the things that they should have been taught before the end of high school with respect to the subject matter of the article, “Divine Right of Kings disguised as USA Judicial Case Law”, which you can read in full at this link:
        http://www.examiner.com/article/divine-right-of-kings-disguised-as-usa-judicial-case-law

        I sent Dan Mashak an email last night, but I have no way of knowing if he will respond. Don Mashak’s does an excellent job in his article by explaining the history of the United States and how its Judicial court system got to be so corrupt today by twisting its decisions into territory that it never had the jurisdiction or right to enter. However, I believe that he did not go far enough with pointing out the origin of “Natural Law”, which supersedes every man-made law.

        While conducting research a few years back I discovered and excellent explanation of “Natural Law” that stated the fact that the God-given INALIENABLE Christian name, ON ITS OWN, is under the will and law of God, also known as “Natural law”, which is anterior (prior/before) and superior to all man-made laws (known as statutes or the misnomer of “Positive law”, which is inferior and came after God’s law). The artificial surname and the combined “Legal name” are under the jurisdiction of the artificial government that creates it under man-made “Positive law.”

        To be clear, the “Natural Law” assumes that everyone knows and agrees with God’s Law and The Ten Commandments, which are all based on the simple Law of Love. If we love ourselves and our fellow man then we would never steal or kill or rape or covet or do anything negative against our fellow man. And there would be no need for any artificial secular social contract where people have no excuse for not knowing millions of man-made rules because ignorance is no excuse in man’s law. Also, in man’s artificial world of legal, there is no real forgiveness, no real grace, and no real pardon. Mankind in general rejected direct government under God and instead chose to go his own secular way despite warnings from God about what would happen when corruptible man rules over other corruptible men. But, of course most men still don’t listen.

        Most men pretend that corruptible men can somehow fix or reverse man-made problems, when the reality is that they never do because it goes against the selfish reasons and ulterior motives that they have for their own private selfish gain (profit). Just try to tell that to all your U.S. Senators who benefit from the drug cartels. Just try to tell the to your Commander-In-Chief of your military stratocracy, the US President or Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, or the Roman Catholic Pope who claim to own and rule the secular world. And, just try to tell all of the billions of ignorant lawful feudal slaves that will defend their feudal slavery and ignorance to their deaths. The secular world is not humble and it is a world of lies and nobody wants to admit that they are wrong.

        The consolation prize to the ignorant secular world is that they can infinitely procrastinate to leave the world of lies and fraud and while they apply, volunteer and consent to continue to participate in the lawful fraud (for fraud is not fraud while you continue to consent to participate in it) they are allowed to have mere false beliefs that misrepresent the truth and facts in law while ignorant people energize and imitate a dead, artificial, imaginary fiction (lie) name (surname & legal name). That is why the police and lawyers and judge wear black when they “Summon” the dead into their corrupt secular synagogue of Satan courts. Yes, man’s law is certainly opposite to God’s Law and the near concept of “Natural Law.” What a tangled mess we weave when we conjure things up to deceive.
        — Mladen

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM

        Mladen – Well said. I try not to include God into the mix because of the voluminous differences of opinion on this issue and instead go straight to the heart. If you think about it, the ten commandments are a pretty simple yet substantive set of moral rules.

        We speak in legal terms as “initiating force” against your fellow human beings. A very simple concept and agreement that, I won’t hurt you unless you try to hurt me first. We have the right to defends ourselves if someone “initiates force against us. Once again “initiating force” is considered wrong. We of course conclude that when someone steals or damages another persons property that is hurting them and therefore it is just as wrong as hurting them physically.

        If you lie to someone and that alters their judgment which damages them in someway, that is also considered wrong. We call lying one of the different types of fraud. Coercion is also similar to fraud. When a person coerces another, especially children, that is wrong. Misrepresentation, concealment and other terms are just different ways in which to show the different ways in which people harm one another or their property.

        If you think about it, all laws are about defining various actions that cause harm to another or their property. There are two basic types of law; 1. Malum in se; true on their face, such as murder, rape, theft, assault, perjury, fraud, etc. and 2. Malum prohibitum; arbitrary laws that attempt to dissuade people from harming one another. DUI, driver license qualifications, forced insurance, housing permits and 1,000s of other regulatory laws. Many civil libertarians object to these type laws as they are both arbitrarily determined and arbitrarily enforced. A good example is DUI laws with a specific intoxication level. Sounds like a good idea, right. Why don’t we just go one step further and just prohibit driving automobiles altogether, as it would really reduce the number of traffic fatalities and injuries and well as reduce pollution and global warming. The number one cause of death of police officers is traffic accidents. Why don’t we really just put people in jail who harm one another, no matter if their are drinking while driving or not; making the punishment harsh enough so that it dissuades people from harming one another. Get rid of all the arbitrary laws that are clogging up our judicial system.

        Law enforcement and the judicial system have however created a huge profit center out of malum prohibitum laws. Hence this has become a real problem as the size of government has grown. Because of our massive political machine, you now have the right to be raped by government by excessive levels of taxation and regulations and pillaged by the judicial system through their enforcement of so many laws, that people on average commit about 3 felonies a day.

        What is really interesting is that their are still those that then think we need even more government regulation to solve the problems that government has actually created. High unemployment and wage disparity are examples even though scientifically, most of the significant social problems we face today, can be linked to the enforcement of malum prohibitum legislation and the taxation and regulation necessary to enforce them.

         
      • Mladen

        January 29, 2014 at 6:22 PM

        Hi again, Skip, and peace be with you. I agree about most of what you say, but there is much more detail to everything and there is not enough space in this blog to cover it all. So, I’ll just reduce it down to the most simple core of the matter.

        From the very beginning man betrayed God based on a false offer and a lie, from the father of the lie, Satan the devil, the same one that still has temporary dominion over the entire secular world. The key word is “Temporary.” Satan has used the secular governments of the world to facilitate the exact same false offer through the VITAL STATISTICS ACT and the secular birth registration system to have ignorant people ignorantly apply, volunteer, consent and be surety for some “Thing” that is NOT our property so that we could energize and impersonate this dead artificial “Thing” in the futile attempt to try to be in charge as our own little gods. We call this false offer the application for the BIRTH or CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATE, which is NOT our NAME, and which is NOT our property (title). The secular lawyers, also known as the devil’s advocates, only convey (transfer) title and the lawyers only do legal executions because they only deal with what is dead. We complete the fraud when we apply for Social Security (aka social insurance) to insure (surety, guarantor, warranty, pledge) ourselves as voluntary and consensual bonded feudal slaves so that we can join and work for the third-party bankers that are in bed with the first and second party, that being the secular government and the Roman Catholic Vatican church (the current incarnation of the pagan and anti-Christian Caesar, Pontiff or Pontifex Maximus).

        To be clear, due to our past ignorance we all joined the third-party as their employees, agents, representatives and we are acting as false trustees for them. That means we are not a beneficiary to God’s Kingdom because we committed ignorant and intentional treason and betrayal against the Kingdom of God. Oh no. We made the same mistake that Eve originally made in the Garden of Eden and which Adam repeated despite having first-hand knowledge from God that he should not betray God. None of us should ever have applied to apply, volunteer, consent and become surety for the debt of another so that we betray God. And, we did it by accepting an unnecessary addition debtor surname, which was attached to our God-given inalienable Christian name, thereby making up a make-believe combined “Legal Name” under the intentionally ambiguous title of “NAME”, which is NOT our property. Why? Because we were given the false belief that we could be in charge as our own little gods (the fallacy of sovereigns without subjects) and we used our false belief to misrepresent the facts in law. We were never in charge of anything. God has always been in charge of everything. And, as long as we consent to participate in the fraud of the secular world there is no remedy for us. Why would God reward us for betraying Him? But, there is a remedy and the remedy is completely transparent and fully disclosed in the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible and all one has to do is to read and implement the Word and direction from God. Just read Matthew 6:24 (KJV), Luke 14:33 (KJV), James 4:4 (KJV), Revelation 18:4 (KJV), to name just a few of the consistent messages and direction from God.

        Or, we can choose to do nothing and just continue to waste our time, energy and breath bitching and complaining about endless secular things that we have absolutely no control over, and which have absolutely nothing to do with God. Why would God care or reward those not on his side?

         
      • Mladen

        January 29, 2014 at 8:08 PM

        Just to follow up on something that you said in your last comment, and with absolutely no negative intention meant against you or anybody else, I do bring God into the mix because it is all about God. Whether anybody chooses to deny God or not, that’s just their ignorant (uneducated) free will choice. The Word of God is that if we are ashamed of Him then He will be ashamed of us. If we do not exercise our true Christian faith muscle then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. Simply saying, “I believe and therefore I am saved” is not enough if one stays on the devil’s secular side and does nothing to come to God’s side because is just evidence that they do not seek first the Kingdom of God. God allows the secular government to exist so that God’s children have a government staff to use for their necessity because God does not renege on His promises. We are not little gods, we are simply God’s children, and God ordained (allowed) them to be in charge of all of their secular artificial blood money to do our bidding for good, not for their own evil. If they do not like it that is just too bad for them because they have no choice in the matter. They must follow their own rule of law and they created the BIRTH and CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATE for their own artificial legal person and they are the subscribers (surety, guarantor, warrantor, pledgee) for their own shit because their own secular government officials signed for it. Who are they kidding? Do you believe that God would let Satan outsmart Him? The devil’s advocates are liable and responsible for all their artificial debt and all their artificial creations pledged for the debt and so they must sign and execute their own shit for the good and the benefit of God’s children, not Satan’s seed. I am to sick and tired of listening to uneducated people’s rationalization of a wrong because no amount of excuses can make a wrong right. But, of course people are free to have any kind of false beliefs and they can use their false beliefs to misrepresent the law all day long, and they do. The key to knowledge is to first fear God, not some corrupt and petty little man no matter what devil’s suit or costume he wears. A “Cog” is a lie and they are completely cognizant of their lies. They work for the devil and they lie and deceive for their own selfish gain and as long as we have no faith and no backbone they will continue to laugh their hinny off all the way to their artificial bank. Of course, they are the signatory on the bank and you must use their official signatures for everything so that they simply “Discharge” everything as they must do according to the BIRTH or CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATES that they gave us as evidence that we have already been discharged from their world of lies and fraud. Skip, this is a matter where every individual is free to believe or don’t believe at your own risk as they are the direct cause of their own consequences. The remedy was under everybody’s nose since before they were ever born and God is the giver of the remedy.
        —- Mladen

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

        Mladen – I wish is was that simple. It does not appear to me that saints will ever occupy positions of political power and why our founding fathers attempted to curtain the size, scope and power of government and protect the Citizens unalienable rights. Government will never be Godly as it requires, as it’s economic foundation the initiation of force and coercion to extract the required money to fund it’s activities. It is not voluntary, as it takes property that rightfully belongs to one person and gives it to those who it doesn’t rightfully belong to. Thinking that God or anyone can change this, appears irrational. That’s my point, if we protect individual rights we do not require saints to be our rulers. Ethical people do not want to rule over others as they know it is contrary to individual rights. No one can know what is in the best interest of the majority. Not even Jesus gave us a specific plan and/or method of creating and maintaining a governmental structure because if he did the Christian community would be in lock step to advance this system. Every Christian I speak to has a different idea. They even have different ideas about many things in the Bible, to the extent that there are thousands of different Christian denominations each quoting the word of God as their foundation.

        God is not really needed in determining mans law. Matter of fact, most political battles and wars are fought over this very problem; people trying to input their moral codes into mans law.

        The protection of individual rights neutralized the disparities in the conflicts of man and why it is so important. The rules of natural law are very simple, logical and they work when protected, as you and I both pointed out. We do not need to know where our rights comes from because they are really self evident. For many the concept of something existing that has always existed (God) is difficult because we know that everything we perceive comes from something. Science and religious are actually very similar in this manner in that both must take the leap of faith that something has always existed. For there to be a big bang, matter or anti-matter, etc. had to exist. Where did the matter come from? If God made the Heaven and Earth, where did God come from; no Mom and Dad? It’s hard for people to believe in something that they cannot understand. That is why it’s the Big Bang “theory” and why religions are “belief” systems. In both, we must take that leap of faith and believe that God has always existed even though we cannot imperially prove it. I say the same thing to atheist; you cannot prove that God doesn’t exist; you only “believe” that God doesn’t exist.

        Because of these arguments and the lack of needing to engage in them in the discussion of unalienable rights, why muddy the waters of an already highly encompassing debate.

        FYI: I only see one potential of changes our political world: http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 10:52 AM

        Mladen,
        @> Your comment on January 28, 2014 at 6:34 PM
        Are you are saying IF we quit using the surname this will reverse everything? Here are some more questions. AFTER you “corrected” this “error” of the surname being the “cause” of your/our woes, have you ever been charged or accused with any kind of “alleged violation” of statutory law? If your answer is no, is it because & only because you corrected the “criminal name” status? Your refusal to answer these questions will be presumed to be understood that you are hiding some information about yourself that you don’t want the rest of us secular criminals,as you call us, to know about. Also, the scripture says, do not bear false witness. Also, IF you are ever accused of, or charged with any violation of statutory law, & the only name you provide is your “Christian” name, I garnt T the paperwork will say, MLADEN A.K.A JOHN DOE. Doe being the ID “THEY” place upon you to be the “secular CRIMINAL: you, Mladen, say the surname makes us into. What about “Race” ? Does this enter into the picture? Race?
        P.S. I am going to cut & paste this message from me to you,Mladen, & the next time I see you seeking out those you may be able to destroy, I am going to post this message along with your response, IF ANY to this message. Get the picture? What’s the latest word from Satan? What do you mean by “Adask-ity” ?

         
    • J.M.

      February 2, 2014 at 2:01 PM

      Martens
      @ >That quote you posted from Penhallow v. Doane’s Administrators is a fake. Someone just made it up.

      Thanks Martens. Now I am going to have to read the entire case to see if what you say is true, IF I can bring it up. I have made the mistake in the past by sending excerpts/quotes to others & mistakenly gave the wrong source. They were honest mistakes. Anyway, re: the “fake quote” do you disagree with what the “fake quote” says? What did you think of the other quotes? How do you know the fake quote is fake? Did you memorize the entire case, i.e, “Penhallow……………”

       
  9. J.M.

    January 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    It’s hard for people to believe in something that they cannot understand.

    TRUE, this is understandable. How well I know. BUt, how is not self evident that the living things we CAN see & the infinite varieties exist without a more superior intelligence existing than we are? We would have to have the intelligence of “God” to explain everything about “God” !! There MUST exist a SUPERIOR intelligence that we cannot even begin to describe. A Peach tree did not decide to be a peach tree. It’s gets deep. But it’s all here for us to see, even the bad things. These things are from a Superior intelligent mind also, & doing such a grand job of destroying all the good.
    Vastly superior intelligence does exist. “Calling” the same “God” has nothing to do with it. You, Skip, are more intelligent than the vast majority of people but You or I or all of us put together are not intelligent enough to make 1 grain of sand. Remember, if you disagree, we have to create this grain of sand from something that does not exist. We cannot start out with anything that already exists.

     
    • Mladen

      January 30, 2014 at 4:26 PM

      J.M. and Skip, I can just imagine how some people reading this exchange of perspectives are thinking, “What has this to do with the original topic, the government being the biggest drug smuggler? Unfortunately, this exchange has everything to do with everything even though most people do not possess the knowledge, wisdom, understanding, morals, conscience and faith required at the present time. But, there is no excuse for continued ignorance (lack of knowledge).

      The simple fact is that there are only two sides to this coin and individuals can use their God-given free-will choice to either believe or deny God, the basic choice between good and evil. The reason why unbelievers deny God and rationalize everything in the artificial secular world is simply because of the reality that most people do not believe in God. But, they believe in the artificial secular world. God has absolutely nothing to do with the infinite false beliefs and politics of man’s secular world.

      Most people agree that evil should not be rewarded and should be punished if justice exists. However, that does not mean that we should expect financial reward for doing and being good. God’s law is fulfilled by exercising unconditional love and pure charity with no expectation of reward. I say this knowing that most men participating in the secular world do not believe and do not act this way and that is their free will choice to be bad or evil and participate with evil.

      If man chooses evil and denies God why would or should God reward man? That would not only be ridiculous, it would mean that God is not just. So, if man uses his free will to believe an infinite number of false secular beliefs we cannot blame God for these false secular beliefs.

      Due to their lack of knowledge, which is called ignorance, the sad truth, reality and fact of the matter is that most people do not understand how and why they chose to deny God by choosing to participate in the secular world of evil, lies and fraud. And, even more sad is how most people will defend their ignorance to their death. Ignorance is not bliss. And, it is transparently and fully disclosed in the Holy Bible that God’s people perish for lack of knowledge.

      The “Key of knowledge of evil” is blatantly displayed on the evil secular BLACK’S LAW dictionary. This key of knowledge of evil is what the lawyers have taken in order to work for the devil as the devil’s advocates to advocate evil, lies and fraud. This is an evil self-governing society whose head office is not even registered on the soil that they are enforcing their evil upon because the ignorant people consent to the evil, lies and fraud. Misery loves company. And, fraud is not fraud as long as you consent to participate in the fraud. That is the reward for accepting the knowledge of evil.

      But, there is another and opposite side to this coin and that is the knowledge of good, which is the knowledge of God, which is the Gospel, which is the good news of God. The knowledge of good and God has absolutely nothing to do with anything in the secular world of evil, lies and fraud. If we consent to continue to participate in the evil, lies and fraud then we have no excuse for bitching and complaining about the thing we consent to.

      With respect to the points that Skip made in his most recent comment, while I understand his point of view and his beliefs and the beliefs of the alleged secular jurist camp in the link he provided, I respectfully and categorically disagree. In law the only thing that matters is the fact(s) that you can prove. This means that whatever opinions or views or beliefs or theories you may have are useless in law if you cannot provide evidence to support your claim or allegation. The devils’ advocates make their living arguing about all of the possibilities that may be true, but are not true. They even advocate the conundrum in the legal maxim that X is Y and cannot be disproved. That’s like saying the lie is the truth and cannot be disproved. However, in law you do not have to prove a lie because you must prove the fact. In the secular court the secular judge can only make a decision based on the facts presented to him.

      Now lets look at this from the perspective of what is deemed (accused) to be true with respect to the combined secular “Legal Name”, which appears to be true on the surface (prima facie)., but it is not true and one must rebut this false belief and false assumption/presumption/accusation/charge. To be clear, the lie has to be rebutted by the truth and fact in law with evidence. So, what’s the evidence of the truth which overcomes the lie?

      If we use the analogy of jumping into the middle of a lake without first knowing how to swim we know that we would drown. No amount of theorizing about swimming would save us if we did not already know how to swim. This is the same when it comes to trying to explain any subject matter. One cannot just jump into the middle or end of any matter and explain it if one does not start at the beginning. So, what is the beginning with respect to your individual existence in the world of artificial paper in the world of legal (artificial)? Would it not be the original STATEMENT OF BIRTH made by your parents? And, if your parents held a merely false belief then does it not stand to reason that their false belief misrepresented the truth in law? And, did we not repeat the same mistake of our parents by continuing to hold the same false beliefs that misrepresent the facts in law. And then we go on to wonder why the secular world has an infinite number of ways to punish us for stubbornly holding on to our false beliefs, lies and fraud that we consent to? So, what is the truth and what is the lie and how can it be proved?

      Even for those that do not believe in God, we must agree on the definition or meaning of individual words or otherwise there would be no point in communicating or even talking at all. On the original STATEMENT OF BIRTH something is given and another thing is not given. One exists and the other does not exist. One is real and the other is not real (fiction, pretend). So, what word is synonymous with “Given”? A “Given” is a FACT. Therefore, there is only one FACT on the original STATEMENT OF BIRTH, and that fact is the God-given inalienable Christian name. The surname is not real and it is not given, it is assumed by false belief. It is not your property even though you may hold the false belief that it is yours when you cannot even prove it. But, you can easily prove that the God-given inalienable Christian name was “Given” to you and you have just proved the one and only fact using the secular world’s own paper that they cannot even question or dispute because the “Given” FACT name is not questionable.

      Furthermore, there is no provision in law to transfer the God-given inalienable Christian name to any person, corporation or trust (whether artificial or not).

      So, the secular world is holding the God-given Christian name, which does not belong to them, only because of an individual’s ignorant consent. And, the ignorant individual is holding the unnecessary artificial debtor criminal surname, which is property or title that does not belong to them. If anybody is interested I could send them a list that is more than five pages worth of opposites between the God-given Christian name and the secular surname [ just send me an email to child52of144@hotmail.com ].

      In closing, whether anybody choose to believe or not, there is a remedy from God that allows believers to use their free will choice and their right to self-determination to take their one and only property, the God-given inalienable Christian name, the intellectual property and Spirit of God’s invention, out of the dead secular body — leaving the secular world with its own dead body, which is their surname property/title. We can stop consenting to the false joinder of our substance, our God-given inalienable Christian name, to their surname lie form. God’s remedy existed since before we were ever born and God knew us before the foundation of the secular world of man’s imagination, cogs, lies, fraud and evil. This truly is an individual prodigal son journey and each individual must decide whether to return to their Maker, Creator and true Father, God, or stay on the opposite side under Satan’s world of lies, fraud and evil.

      Perhaps this is just to simple for all those minds indoctrinated with a lifetime of secular false beliefs that misrepresent the truth and facts in law. The truth overcomes and rebuts the lie.
      —- Mladen

       
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 30, 2014 at 5:25 PM

        Mladen – There are many people who believe as you. Although I am a Unitarian, I do find your arguments compelling and have seen many of those who prescribe to this, do OK. It basically gets them out of the game which is a good thing to me. Getting yourself out of the system is another method of rebellion, passive resistance, as Gandhi successfully utilized even though he was dealing with both Hindus and Muslins, killing one another.

        Believing that what you believe is the ultimate truth, I thing is one of the biggest failing of mankind as a singularity or individual. For everyone that believes like you there are 100s of even 100s of thousands that don’t. What makes your perception of what the Bible says, make you absolutely correct and all others incorrect. You make some good arguments but are they the ultimate truth.

        Thinking that you can create significant change when incorporating religion into the mix, has historically been a mistake, matter of fact the more we separate religion and government the better off we have been. I for one, as a libertarian, see very little redeeming value in voting for people who can rule against my will. Capitalism is about voluntary associations and many confuse government interventions as being a part of improving them, when in reality, governments generally harms voluntary associations in favor of special interests and themselves.

        Thinking that the almighty Mladen, I’m just poking a little fun, and any followers will have any significant influence is, in my opinion, not looking at the last 10,000 years. Even Jesus’s ideologies have not come to pass, even though I surely attempt to follow it in every aspect of my life.

         
      • J.M.

        February 2, 2014 at 6:30 PM

        Mladen,
        Re: your brief comment on January 30, 2014 at 4:26 PM

        TOO SHORT, just TOoooooo short of a response. Can you,Mladen be more specific? But, I have to hand it to you Hoss, I would have believed/bit into your BAIT too, about 25 years ago. You sho do nose how to fish.

         
      • Mladen

        February 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM

        How dare you have the adask-ity to say that?

         
  10. Mladen

    January 30, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Skip, I have no argument with you. And, yes I agree that only one in one million are likely to agree with God’s unambiguous and unequivocal message of the Holy Bible — which is to be separate from the heathen, pagan unbelievers. So, yes, there is only one truth for believers. And, yes there are billions of false truths for the billions of unbelievers. So, you see, I have no argument with you.

    My belief is that since the Kingdom of God has nothing to do with the secular world, I as a follower of the way of Christ also have nothing to do with the secular world. After 22 years acting as a financial adviser I saw more than ample evidence to prove that absolutely everything in the secular world is based on lies, fraud, evil and corruption and there is no way to rationalize any wrongs.

    Therefore, I am not advocating or believing that I should be in any way involved with the infinite man-made problems and corruptions of the secular world. I am no longer consenting to it. To be governed by pagans would require my consent and I no longer consent. I am not part of the governed that consent to be governed by liars, fraudsters, evil and corrupt men. I consent to God. And, whoever chooses to disbelieve that there is a remedy to participation in the unconscionable secular world of man consents to do so at their own consequence. That’s just not me.

    I also do not see any hypocrisy in what the pagan Roman soldiers termed as “The way” of Christ, nor do I see any hypocrisy in the Syrian language term “Christian” for those true believers and followers of the way of Christ. But, I do find it sadly funny how most people confuse God with any heathen, pagan, false REGISTERED secular religions, which are called DENOMINATIONS simply because they are nothing but money —- and you CANNOT serve two masters, money and God. On the side of Satan the devil, father of the lie, temporary ruler of the secular world, there are over 40,000 registered false-Christian pagan religions, as well as and additional more than 10,000 non-CHristian religions. In man’s world anything goes and you can believe in anything you chose to place your false belief in — but, this is not the case in the Kingdom of God.

    God is not registered with the secular world. Christ Jesus is not registered with the secular world. But, the secular false religion’s buildings misnomers of “Church” are registered. Their false rabbis, priest, ministers, pastors and whatever other label they use are registered in the secular world. They collect money from their pagan secular sinners to support their money denomination church. They pay their false leaders money. And, they issue tax receipts to offset the financial amount of secular sin that pagan participants are doing. None of this secular stupidity has anything to do with God, Christ Jesus, the Holy Spirit or the Word of God as it is written in the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible. The message from God is to “Come out of her” (Revelation 18:4) and take out up your stake ( mistakenly and intentionally transliterated as “Cross”) and come follow Christ (Luke 14:33) — and NOT to stay in the secular world. Christ does not support hirelings (mercenaries, adulterers, prostitutes, whores), and that is what the secular participants are. And, I want nothing to do with any of the billions of secular labels for secular participants because they all share one common feature, they are secular and have nothing to do with God.

    So, Skip, please do not confuse God with any of the ridiculous insanity in the secular world. You choose to be in the secular world. I choose to be out of the secular world because I cannot serve two masters — God and mammon (see Matthew 6:24). There is nothing vague about James 4:4 where God tells us that friendship with the [secular] world is enmity with God. And, man is told NOT to interpret the Holy Bible and anybody that does make their own private interpretation will have to answer to God for that. The devil’s advocate liar lawyers even charge money to get paid for lying and making their own private interpretations and they have their own specific warnings in the Holy Bible starting with the words, “Woe unto ye lawyers”.

    In summary, Skip, I know that I am on the opposite side of the coin with respect to all of the false beliefs that consenting secular participants continue to hold, which misrepresents the facts in both the secular law as well as contradicting God’s law. Just consider me to be like Lot when he escaped the punishment of Sodom and Gomorrah. Or, maybe I am like Job because I refuse to accept the lies of the world and I will not curse God so that I can continue in the misery of the secular world. Or, consider me to be like Noah and the eight people that got on the Ark instead of the 8 million that did not believe the flood was coming until they were drowning. Yes, it is a matter of participation or non-participation, being in or being out, consenting or non-consenting, and choosing to be on God’s side or not. I choose God.

    I am taking my private God-given inalienable Christian name property out of the secular world. I am removing my consent to participate or be governed from the secular world as it is my God-given inalienable right to chose to serve God, not the master of secular mammon (profit, gain). And, I am abandoning the unclean common public surname and giving Caesar back his worthless, dead and unclean surname. How much more peaceful can I be than to render unto Caesar his own shit and let Caesar manage the shit that Caesar created and subscribes to (guarantees, warranties, pledges). There are two ways to go with this. I can either make Caesar liable and responsible for his own fraud and enforce the fraud upon Caesar. Or, I can just leave. Either way, I have more than one way out due to the escape clause provided me by way of an Act of God — my God-given inalienable Christian name, which is not under secular jurisdiction.
    The fraud of the legal name will not go away, the only thing that will change is that I will not be operating it and its creators will have to run it by operation of the rule of their own law. God would certainly not let Satan or his devil’s advocates outsmart him. They must run their own shit and I care not to have the knowledge of evil of how they run their own shit. It’s all artificial, pretend and not real. Fiction government can run their own fiction legal name. I am not the owner, bearer, operator, trustee, employee or agent of their shit. They are. But, just like Moses gave Moses a staff to come and go within the pagan realm of the Egyptians, I can use them as my staff to do good. Why? Simply because I choose to serve my true master and my God, Christ Jesus. This is the point where, if I was a devil’s advocate, I really should put a long complicated legal disclaimer in a font that is so small that nobody could read it for all the secular pagan unbelievers who consent to be governed by Satan’s evil world of lies, fraud and corruption.
    But, alas, I will not bother. During my past ignorance I was falsely accused and abused, but now that I have knowledge of good and God I am excused. And, I say, good day.
    —- Mladen

     
    • J.M.

      January 30, 2014 at 11:34 PM

      Shalom,Mladen
      Overall, I HEAR YOU. But still, there are Many Many Many questions I would like to ask & some of those questions would be food for thought questions. Re: My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge & please don’t let the next statement ruffle your feathers. > If the word “MY” was not included in My people are destroyed….., it would be easier to understand that statement. It is difficult to understand HOW people can be called “God’s people” & yet lack the knowledge that is destroying them. Unless I am misunderstanding you, you are in essence saying that you have the knowledge God’s People did not have or lacked. I’m not saying you don’t. Would I be correct in thinking you are one of “God’s people? If you reply to what I have written in this comment, don’t reply with a full page sermon because what I have stated & asked could be answered briefly. IF you do reply, I would like to ask you a couple of more questions. Then a couple of more after that.

      Oh, P.S. I don’t think Skip chose to be in the secular world, he was born into it. Now if Skip parents had to get his permission for conception, then we have another ballgame. Shalom. Mladen

       
      • Mladen

        January 31, 2014 at 1:33 AM

        J.M., why do you ask a rhetorical question?

        If you believe in God and if God is the Creator and Maker and Father of all, is not everybody part of God’s people? But, like the prodigal son, not everybody will respect and honour and instead some will betray their true Father, God. It’s a choice between allegiance to the seed of the woman that leads to Christ, or the seed of the serpent that leads to Satan the devil (deceiver), father of the lie.

        The “My people perish” scripture that you are referring to follows:
        Hosea 4:6 [KJV]
        My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge,
        I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me:
        seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

        Some of God’s people will accept God and his Gospel (good news. On the other hand, some of God’s people will reject God and his knowledge opting to believe the lies of the father of lies, Satan the devil, which leads to democracy and the false belief that man can be in charge as his own little god. Lack of knowledge leads to ignorant consent to participate in secular (God-less, not spiritual) society. Everybody has an individual option to accept Christ and to self-elect to be a child of God.

        J.M., I am not claiming to be God and I am not claiming to be a secular god either. And, yes, I read God’s Word in the Holy Bible, and simple reading gave me God’s knowledge, and it is available to you and the other 7 billion individuals to read too. I did no private interpretation of God’s Word because it would be ridiculous to believe that God was the author of confusion since that fallacy is also discredited by the consistency and Word of the Holy Bible.

        And, neither Skip nor you nor I chose to be born into the secular world of sin and it just is what it is. The “World” is a system of things, and not the earth, and we have a choice whether to stay in the evil, corrupt, lie and fraud system of things or not. If God did not give us that choice we would be in a pointless prison planet where there is no way out of secular feudal slavery. But, that’s not the case because we can repent (change) and shed and abandon the secular person of man under the unnecessary debtor surname and we can be reborn as a person of GOd by accepting our God-given inalienable Christian name on its own, not yoked to the common polluted unbeliever surname. We only become individual once we accept our God-given inalienable Christian name on its own, giving our Spirit to God and serving God, just as Christ had showed us the way.

        Before you ask me any more questions, J.M., let me ask you, are you a Christian and are you seeking first the Kingdom of God? Peace be with you.
        —- Mladen

         
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      January 31, 2014 at 2:09 AM

      Mladen Please reread what you last wrote = Sadly I sense another soul that has been mislead by the fascist concepts of the Roman Empire and their lies purposely created to distract the multitudes into a system where they lie dormant in dissention of the truth. Rather believing lies which hold and distort a sense of human existence that does not fight back against the lies and evils of our world. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge can be said of all the people of the world. The idea that you have a profound sense of God greater than I or others, grants me no hope that you are delivering a truth any greater then my atheist next door neighbor. Your Christian name is no more truthful than a Muslim’s name or a Hindu’s name. We are each born into this world the children of some religious CULT and those that reject the lies are deems evil or infidels. I feel I have lost another good soul to the abyss of mystical thoughts forced upon us by coercion by those that lie to us for power and privilege. I see no mention of improving our world in your writings but of only acquiescence and escape.

       
      • J.M.

        January 31, 2014 at 5:01 AM

        Ask Mladen a question & tell him to please not give a sermon answering the question & Mladen understands this to mean I am asking for a complete & thorough sermon to answer the question. then he calls the question a rhetorical question and still gives a sermon about the rhetorical question..Hey stop the world and let me off. I’m tired of going round & round. It also never fails that when these deep “Christian” thinkers are in their minds, challenged, by asking a question about their sermon, it ruffles their feathers to put it mildly.& that’s putting it mildly. Still, it is hard to communicate over the internet, so let’s see how this ends up. I think I already know but if I am wrong I am honest & I will be honest & say so. What ever happened to humility.I can actually see how some people’s chest starts to swell up in defense of being challenged with a question. My questions are not to start a sparring match I am simply wanting a makes sense answer.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 31, 2014 at 12:00 PM

        J.M. It is impossible to argue with someone who is ordained by God, as his spokesman. If you notice he is very redundant in his message, saying the same thing over and over, hoping that people will believe it.

        It is sad that so many people have broken away from the gnostic origins of Christianity, and instead having embraced the Roman manipulations. However, we must remember that throughout history if you did not submit to their doctrine, you were a heretic and you life and property were in “grave” danger. No pun intended.

        Even as late as the Salem Witch hunts, turn of the century and Martyrs at Boston Common in1659-61, and up to the Federation and Constitution, Religious persecution was rampant. Just read the history of Thomas Paine. Exiled out of the country fro his treatise, Age of Reason, he helped create and fight for.

        My 7x Great Grandfather, Captain Samuel Robinson, the father of Vermont, used to segregate the different religious sects into different areas as he sold off land to them. Some called him a bigot, others called him a wise man.

         
      • J.M.

        January 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        Thanks Harry Skip Robinson,
        @ My 7x Great Grandfather, Captain Samuel Robinson, the father of Vermont, used to segregate the different religious sects into different areas as he sold off land to them. Some called him a bigot, others called him a wise man.
        You have inherited his wisdom. You are a blessing to this blog. If we have an outgoing concern for each other WE WIN. If only having an “outgoing” concern for others was highly contagious (synonym) we would have a utopia.

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 11:27 AM

        @ Sadly I sense another soul that has been mislead
        Makes sense to me.

         
      • J.M.

        February 2, 2014 at 7:57 PM

        To, Skip
        @ > I would like to see this book you are referring to and how you know what Satan is saying?

        It’s a secret between Mladen,a.k.a. Maul-d- Mire, & you know who. Secrets are not to be revealed.

         
    • J.M.

      February 1, 2014 at 1:31 AM

      @ and why our founding fathers………
      Yes, and why our founding fathers did not understand or knew & didn’t care that the use of their family names and the fact that the one-and-only purpose of the surname is for outlawry, which is to identify criminals. It’s true. Yes indeed. Mladen said so, therefore it must be true. What did it make the new born babies of the founding fathers? Newly born criminals. I hope this message doesn’t “annoy” You, Harry Skip Robinson. I say this because,Mladen said to me, Man oh man are you annoying! I am annoyed that the founding fathers betrayed their own children. This is just too much for me to grasp.

       
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 1, 2014 at 10:27 AM

        JM – Let him baste in his own world. There is no way you can ever get through to this guy. By being a so-called believer, he has justified his knowledge base and therefore is essentially as I said before, ordained by God as the provider of all truths. Sincerely, Skip of Lake Worth.

         
    • J.M.

      February 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM

      Mladen,
      @ > J.M., why do you ask a rhetorical question?

      Because I enjoy being an annoying, belligerent, wrecking Rhetoric. This is as plain as I know how to explain it. Do you have a NON 501 (c) 3 church? Are you able to answer that question with a simple yes or no? If you are able to answer that question with a yes or no, ANSWER IT. Ohh, also, a don’t know answer will be understood,by me. So, it’s yes,no, or don’t know. I hope this will not be asking too much.

       
  11. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 3:23 AM

    Mladen,

    @J.M., let me ask you, are you a Christian and are you seeking first the Kingdom of God?…………”

    I do not understand how you could ask that question if you had RED my comment on THIS THREAD > January 30, 2014 at 2:55 PM & MANY other comments I have made on other threads.

    I’m sure you will agree when people make a comment & only “reed”, for the most part, answers to their own messages then he/she only really cares about what he/she has to say & the comments in response, if any as to what he/she has to say & could care less about what anybody else has to say unless it is an answer to his/her comment But, to answer your question.Mladen, some people would think I’m doing anything BUT seeking FIRST the Kingdom of God. Try & understand that some posters on this blog tell me that I am spitting in the face of Jesus THE Christ when I say I try to keep the 10 commandments, FOR ONE THING. I am told IF I proclaim such idiocy to others,i.e. TRY to honor the 10 commandments, then, they say,I am proclaiming false doctrine. Soooo to them, I am NOT seeking the Kingdom of God. Mladen, I am going to presume you,Mladen are reading this. I said before that I have some questions I would like to ask you & now from your question asking me if I am a Christian, etc. you,Mladen MAY not appreciate this question but I’m going to ask it anyway. Then MAYBE somebody else will see if YOU are sincere. You talk about a Christian name & you are right when you say what a Christian name is. Also, I am going to presume you know that at one time, at least some people were identified ALSO by their profession, e.g. James, the Blacksmith,etc. TODAY this is STILL a carryover in that there are people with the “surname” of Smith, & some with the surname of Black. There are ALSO “ID’s” in the Holy Bible,e.g. John the Baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, Mary Magdalene, Paul of Tarsus. I was going to ask you what your thoughts were about that. But I better not do that.
    P.S. I reed everybody’s comment because I care about what other people have to say. Also, I spell some words like I do so the deep thinkers hopefully will grasp at least part of what I mean. Shalom

     
    • J.M.

      January 31, 2014 at 3:59 AM

      P.S Maybe you,Mladen will not understand this question as just another rhetorical question. I need an answer anyway. Because I am still a babe & I have not matured enough to understand the difference between a rhetorical question & one “worth answering.”

      What was this KNOWLEDGE God’s People rejected? What did this rejected knowledge consist of? There are all kinds of knowledges. Who KNOWINGLY REJECTS ANYTHING that will cause them to be happy & ACCEPT ANYTHING that will make them unhappy & destroy them?

       
      • Mladen

        January 31, 2014 at 1:53 PM

        Hi J.M.,

        The simple answer: I believe in a divine remedy and it appears that you guys do not.

        If you have more questions and want personalized answers please contact me directly at my email at child52of144@hotmail.com and I will do my best to answer your questions to the best of my knowledge.

        If our beliefs are opposite then I do not see the point of continuing this conversation. I do not understand why people have to complicate everything so that they cannot see anything?

        You guys deny that your given name reflects the image of God —– and that the surname reflects the image of Satan the devil (deceiver). Your one-and-only alodial property is your God-given inalienable Christian name. Period.

        The surname is not your property. It is a “Cognomen” and a “Cog” is defined by Samuel Johnson’s Dictionary as a lie. So, the surname is a lie name or a trick name because you have been tricked or have tricked yourself if you believe the lie that it is your name.

        Those that deny God, Christ and the Holy Bible come up with an infinite number of theories that they cannot prove to justify their false beliefs. However, their false beliefs merely misrepresents the provable facts in law. God does not need you, He wants you, and we need God.

        We have freely shared our discoveries on our ChristianRemedyInLaw channel on YouTUbe
        [ https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianRemedyInLaw ] with over 20 hours of video teaching based on provable facts that anybody can replicate if they are diligent enough to do their own independent research.

        I am sure that taking even 25 hours out of a lifetime of false indoctrination will be a help, not a hindrance, to anybody’s search for the truth if they are truly seeking first the Kingdom of God.

        If not, don’t bother and don’t complain about your default choice to continue to consent to participate in the secular world of misery where there is no remedy and no solution. As I said above, I believe in a divine remedy and it appears that you guys do not.

        For the sake of providing factual information for those that seek it I have provided more detailed information below for those that seek first the Kingdom of God.
        —————————————————————————————————————————-

        It is very interesting that in a mere 10 hours away from the internet you (J.M.) and Skip have already judged me as if you had the right to dismiss my beliefs and you continue to promote your own personal beliefs (cults). Well, isn’t that just special and does that not show just how inadequate the internet and any other electronic one-way communication tool is (e.g. telephone texting)?

        Where do I begin in sharing many years of research with respect to the “NAME”? You guys do not even understand that the sole purpose of the surname is to identify criminals and it appears that you also do not know or do not understand that the secular world is criminal by design.

        Where do I begin with respect to all the combined research based on the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible, the etymology (origin) and true meaning of English words and the law of language, and the understanding of the operation of the secular laws of man that are opposed to the Law of God? We have freely shared our discoveries on our ChristianRemedyInLaw channel on YouTube [ https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianRemedyInLaw ].

        This also means that I do not believe that any secular remedy exists. And, no, Skip, the website link that you keep on promoting [ http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/ ] does not give a new set of individuals any legitimate right to be judges who are judging over other judges at the highest level of the secular stratocracy. None of you are in charge of anything to being with.

        It appears that you guys have not yet discovered that you are players in a game that you do not control. You must not know or you are denying the fact in law that the combined “Legal Name” is not your property. In the secular courts of the secular British Commonwealth whenever Her Majesty’s subjects (servants, vassals, slaves) are commanded (not invited) into their secular courts they are commanded to appear “In Her Majesty’s Name.” Well, if it is her name then what the heck are you doing with it?

        You must not know that your ignorance has not awakened you to the fact that your are mere private persons in a mixed war against the government STRATOCRACY. Did you not notice that your President is the Commander-in-Chief of this war? Did you not notice that the STRATOCRACY has titles like Attorney GENERAL, LIEUTENANT Governor, Provost MARSHAL, DEPUTY this, that and the other thing? Were these not enough clues? Or, is reality staring you in the face and you just cannot see it?

        You have a myriad of government agencies like the CIA, FBI, NSA and tons of other government agencies where mere private persons get to put on costumes (aka uniforms) for 8 hours of the day so that they can “Act” in the common public interest for a critical mass that does not even exist in reality. This illusion only exists in the mind (temple) of confused and deceived men. At the end of their 8-hour shift they take their costumes off and stop acting for the public and they go back to being mere private persons again, only to repeat the acting cycle the next day. You have so many players and acting in the game that it is hard to keep track without a program. You have an acting president, an acting government bureaucracy, an acting judge, and acting prosecutor (really a persecutor), so no wonder Shakespeare remarked that “The world’s a stage.”

        How did you miss SAMUEL JOHNSON’s 1755 Dictionary definition that a “PENSION” is pay given to a state hireling (mercenary, prostitute, whore) for treason against his country
        (i.e. perhaps the Kingdom of God is what they are betraying?).

        How did you guys miss Noah Webster’s 1828 dictionary definition where the word “JOB” is defined as supposed public work for private dishonest gain?

        Perhaps it is because individuals have been so dumbed down, especially over the misnomer of enlightenment since the reality is that alleged knowledge has become darker, and so over the past 500 years the 22 Volumes of the OXFORD DICTIONARY have been dumbed down to just one masonic Noah Webster’s dictionary so that the smug and the stupid would not know what is really going on?

        How did you guys miss the fact that the one-and-only purpose of the surname is for outlawry, which is to identify criminals? Yes, if you have a surname you are consenting to be a known criminal. The crimes you are committing out of ignorance are numerous, and God has ordained your secular government to punish you for any one of millions of crimes under statutes for statues, where idolaters and adulterers can pay to play the many false belief cult game of secular illusions. So, it is no wonder that you have no clue that you are an ignorant participant in a mixed war between mere private persons and government STRATOCRACY (rule by military force).

        Skip, you actually have the nerve to pretend that you are the gatekeeper of knowledge while you remain to be an ignorant pawn in the game. You made me laugh so hard when you accused me of being in a cult. Do you even know the meaning of the word? A cult is simply a belief, whether true or false. So, Skip, you just keep your false belief in the cult of the make-believe secular nations known as the dis-united United States, or the fallacy of the dis-united United Nations, and the infinite false cults (false beliefs) of the secular state or the approximately 50,000 registered false money religions. There is simply no solution and no remedy in the secular world.

        And, Satan says, thanks for trying because he is a collector of souls and you guys are currently in his book of death, under the surname, and not under the book of life under the God-given inalienable Christian name. The cult of mere false beliefs makes things unnecessarily complicated and the blind lead the blind down endless rabbit holes of secular stupidity that have only one thing in common —– there is no secular solution to anything. The Holy Bible tells individuals to get out of the secular world, not to stay in.

        Skip, you and many others are not only not on the same page as I am on, which is God’s page, you guys are not even in the same book or the same library. You are chasing theories and mere false beliefs to rationalize wrongs that cannot be made right and you are not in charge of anything.

        Opposite to your beliefs in the secular world, I only believe that there is a Divine solution and anybody that wants God’s free graced remedy and pardon to a delayed sentence of death can find it in the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible.
        — Mladen

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        January 31, 2014 at 3:04 PM

        Mladen you wrote: “The simple answer: I believe in a divine remedy and it appears that you guys do not.”

        What Armageddon and the return of Jesus? What if I’m already dead and in heaven before this happens? I want a solution now and you have not really giving us one that will work now. Just believing in the Bible is not going to make the world a better place.

        Just for you knowledge, I want to abolish the Fed, the income tax, NATO, the BIS, the World Bank, the IMF and most other governmental agencies and their franchises such as corporations. See my evidence on the fraudulent enforcement of the Personal Income Tax. Knowledge is power. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/harrietrobbins/4OTvGSWkYU4

        Your telling me that I think I’m the gate keeper of knowledge when you are telling us what Satan says and that we are in his book of death. I would like to see this book you are referring to and how you know what Satan is saying?

        Or are you just making this stuff up? See how divisive religion is. I was poking a little fun at you and now you are sending me off to hell. I wish you no harm. I just try to point out things and this apparently pisses you off. You notice that I have a propensity to just ask a lot of questions.

         
  12. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    @The simple answer: I believe in a divine remedy and it appears that you guys do not.

    It just “appears” that way. Apparently ALL of the Apostles excepting John also did not believe in a divine remedy either. It’s just that the Divine Remedorer has not started enforcing that divine remedy YET.
    Mladen you were too brief in your explanation. Could you be more specific?

     
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      January 31, 2014 at 3:32 PM

      One of my best friends is a Christian – Jeff Pollard. We both agree that Jesus was a libertarian trying to change the world and most importantly trying to defeat government tyranny.

      We believe the single biggest problem facing mankind is the refusal to believe that those who control government are looking out after their own self interests and not the majorities. Almost every single piece of legislation throughout history, benefits special interests or those in government to the detriment of the majority. Government is and always has been about the money. Redistributing the majorities money to those in political and economic power. If you do not understand this, you either have blinders on or just don’t care.

      An institution, government, that has for it’s economic foundation, the legalization of the initiation of force and coercion, can not possible provide a system which protects individual rights. They are antithetic to one another. In essence it is saying that government is going to steal from us to protect us. From what, others that want to steal from us? Government cannot possibly foster a civil society.

       
      • J.M.

        January 31, 2014 at 5:25 PM

        @ Government cannot possibly foster a civil society.
        We have at least 6,000 years of recorded history proving this. You have a happy smile. I like that. May I call/refer to you as Skip? Please don’t be offended by me asking this.Anymore, I don’t know what to do,or say about certain things. I was trying to be respectful & courteous to a “lady” one time by saying, thank you dear lady you are so kind. WOW !!! my thank you made her scream back, I’M NOT A LADY, I’M A WOMAN !!!! Sometimes, I just can’t win.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 1, 2014 at 8:54 AM

        Of course, all my friends call me Skip.
        J.M. Mladen is talking about the old patriot movement stuff that the legal system ignores. Capitalization of your name, birth certificate and SS# places you into a corporate capacity etc. Thus government because corporations are government franchises, has jurisdiction over you at the Federal level instead of state level, thus without taking into consideration unalienable rights. Congress is not bound by the same Constitutional limitations when it is legislating for the District of Columbia as when it is legislating for the 50 States. We’ve done some law research on the name issue and can’t find anything on it. However, on Citizenship type and United States, they patriot movement is correct. There are two types of Citizenship and numerous definitions of the United States in the law and IRC. Big deal, the judges ignore them a fine you for taking a frivolous position. We just had a tax Attorney here in Florida get fined $5,000 recently for a Frivolous defense even though he was correct in his assertions. The IRS must publish all frivolous claims so we know that the assertions he made were not on their list. The government and judiciary are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Since there is no law that requires State Citizens to pay a Federal Personal Income Tax, they can’t let anyone win, however accurate their legal positions are.

        In my work, I took none of these positions. I just showed that the IRS is using fraudulent Notices of Federal Tax Liens (NFTL) to collect the alleges taxes owed. http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/353/ – See if you can understand the evidence I’ve provided. I should probably rewrite it. There is both direct evidence and circumstantial in my Power Point Presentation. The appellate ruling examined and the positive law issue are circumstantial. The Kind of Tax noted on the NFTL is the direct evidence. The key is what Kind of Tax is a 1040?

        You can find the SCOTUS decisions on Citizenship and just read the IRS and see how many different definitions you can find. I found five. Once again, the Judges are corrupt and they will rule against you no matter what arguments you make. They just want most of your money and they will get it, if you have any.

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 10:11 AM

        HELLO Skip !!!
        @….all my friends call me Skip.
        Thank you!!! Now I have you & Julie & Yartap. Julie said, to me,> I like you very much
        Yartap said,”We will be friends until the end.” I responded by saying, just don’t say, we’ll be friends until the end but this looks like the end my friend.
        @… they can’t let anyone win, however accurate their legal positions are.
        @ Once again, the Judges are corrupt and they will rule against you no matter what arguments you make.TELL ME ABOUT IT !!
        There’s no doubt in my mind that Mladen is proselytizing. It made my blood boil when he said, “Satan says”……… & because he put you, Skip, in his & Satan’s conversation. How can he say, Satan says so & so unless he has some kind of communication line,etc.with Satan? Do you, Skip, think there might be a “WAY” possibly available to win in “their or ANY courts?” Thanks for the link, will check it out. I don’t have any tax problems other than trying to go from point A to point B in my automobile without their stamp of approval documents which is very taxing. Thank you for allowing me to be your friend. I promise to do my utmost to not disappoint you. If I do, it will be done out of ignorance/stupidity.

         
    • J.M.

      January 31, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      Mladen,

      First of all, I do not have the wisdom of “Harry Skip Robinson” Oh how I wish I did. Soooo,don’t you, Mladen, expect to receive any more response from this wise man. He knows better than to keep on beating a dead horse. I don’t. ” An “individual ” asked me one time, James, why do you keep beating a dead horse. I said because I ain’t got nuthun a-ulse to do.

      @ Perhaps it is because individuals….

      Individuals??? Individual WHAT?? Oh that’s right. And God said let “us” make individuals in “our” image. Also, ain’t it interesting about the “US” and “OUR” ??

      @ How did you guys miss the fact that the one-and-only purpose of the surname is for outlawry, which is to identify criminals?

      I understand it in this sense,e.g. John the Baptist, Jesus of Nazareth, Paul of Tarsus WERE considered CRIMINALS. HOWEVER, I believe they would have STILL been regarded as criminals without the added identification, e.g.John > the Baptist, Jesus > the Nazarene, Paul > of Tarsus, & apparently Mary > Magdalene, it’s the Magdalene that identified her as a criminal. And, of course ALL of the “Founding Fathers, as they are called, were criminals too, e.g. George > Washington, John > ADAMS & so on. AND their offspring were BORN CRIMINALS.
      Were your parents & grandparents criminals Mladen ? That is to say as YOU,Mladen identify a criminal? Do you think I am so far out of it that I expect you to directly answer this question? Think again, Mladen, as you well know, the reason I am here, is because I’m not all there.

       
  13. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    @the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible.
    I saw somewhere the following. This certain man said, I read (reed) the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible from cover to cover every year and if the the Authorized 1611 King James Holy Bible was good enough for Jesus and the his disciples, it’s good enough for me.

    This man, excuse me, individual, was another “high level” reader as Jetlag says he is. Reading in & of itself is really the answer. Understanding what we read doesn’t matter.We just need to READ (<REED). are you reading me, Mladen?

     
    • Mladen

      January 31, 2014 at 7:22 PM

      Yes, J.M., I read between the line and I saw your “Reed”. For any other reader’s convenience and expedience they can read the definitions and synonyms of “Reed” from four different dictionaries here: https://www.wordnik.com/words/reed .

      The appropriate theme that I have been discussing is more about separating the wheat (truth) from the chaff (error). As one wise Bible commentator observed, only God can make an error, man only makes errors. The sense of separation I have been referring to is summarized by John the Baptist:

      Matthew 3:11-12 [AKJV]
      11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
      12 whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

      It appears that the reed may burn for all those that did not read.

       
      • J.M.

        January 31, 2014 at 7:48 PM

        @ Yes, J.M., I read…………..”
        How are you pronouncing the word read? Reed or Red. Once again, were your parents criminals as you define who is a criminal? Did your Mommy & Daddy use a criminal name, ID, Last name, surname, patronymic? You know what I’m asking BUT I know why you will not answer too.

         
      • J.M.

        January 31, 2014 at 8:43 PM

        @ It appears that the reed may burn for all those that did not read.
        Or have not read? N/A to high level readers. Understanding is notwithstanding.

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 12:17 PM

        @ Humility is difficult when it come to admitting that we were duped and we allowed ourselves to be duped by our past ignorance.

        You have proven your point. Your FINALLY yes-yes-yes answer proves the degree of your humbleness. IT’S EASY for me to say, I HAVE BEEN deceived. There are also others who are STILL trying to drag me into MORE deception. IT’S EASY for me to say, I’m no more than an ol chunk of coal, & this very likely is putting myself up to a higher level than I really am. But, who knows, maybe one day I might be a diamond.

         
      • J.M.

        February 2, 2014 at 5:59 PM

        Mladen,
        @ > Yes, J.M., I read between the line and I saw your “Reed”.

        Your reading between the line(s) doesn’t doesn’t seem to count when YOU TOO are a CHERRY PICKER of scriptures the Holy Bible. If you see a scripture that SEEMS to justify your half ass opinion because of your half ass understanding, you WILL use that half ass understanding of the scripture to coincide with your half ass knowledge. FOR EXAMPLE AND IT IS WRITTEN, Doesn’t NATURE itself show/teach you that it is a SHAME for a MAN to have LONG HAIR. YOU,Mladen come up with the half ass cute response of, well, how long is long? Let me give you an example of how long long is. My Brother was a hairstylist/Barber. one day a “MAN” walked into my Brother’s Barber shop, with “long” hair 1/4 ways down his back & said to my Brother, I think you were the last one to give me a haircut.” My Brother replied, No, it could not have been me, I haven’t been in business that “long.”

         
      • J.M.

        February 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM

        Mladen, et.al.
        I spell read, sometimes as red, or reed to show how it is pronounced & for no other reason. I red the book, did you reed the book? I try to communicate with people on their level WHEN I can . I cannot communicate with SOME (< sum) people on their level because they are UP, WAY UP higher than I ever will be or could hope to be. STILL, I try, with my unlearned limited ability to at least TRY. AND, I still believe if their hearts are right they will know what I'm saying or trying to say. BUT there will always be some misunderstandings & for many reasons to tedious to try & explain. Life can be teejus.

         
  14. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    And, Satan says, thanks for trying because he is a collector of souls and you guys are currently in his book of death,
    uhh huh, just as I thought or suspected but I also hoped I was wrong.
    Next time you talk with you co-hort tell him he better have second thoughts about having me with him/IT.I’ll hound his worthless ass around the clock. At this point in my life I don’t think I qualify to be with either God the Father & his Son OR Satan. Satan doesn’t want me & neither does God, THE ALMIGHTY GOD !!! < But he keeps saying keep trying.& that he has not given up on me.

     
  15. Mladen

    January 31, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    Thanks for confirming that you had a pre-conceived conclusion before you even asked the question.

    That is a very non-Christian sentiment to know that you will, as you say in your own words, “…hound his worthless ass around the clock…” in referring to what you call my cohort, whom you have never meant or seen or talked to. But, it’s nice to know that you judge complete strangers.

    And, you are wrong about Satan for he wants your soul as much as he wants everyone’s soul because Satan already knows he has lost the war between God (good) and evil, and Satan is only in the game to take down as many other souls as he can with him in God’s delayed judgement of death that is upon all unbelievers. Do you know how blasphemous it is for you to mock this?

    You are right that God has never given up on you and the only thing that you are missing is the willpower to do what God has told you and all true believers to do, which is to exercise the true Christian faith muscle, which has absolutely nothing to do with anything in the secular world. So, who or what is holding you back from doing what God wants you to do? Remember, God does not need you, He wants you, and you need God. Who is the Creator and who is the created? Is God asking too much for simple and true allegiance? And, would God allow double-agents and unbelievers to benefit from their intentional sin? Would that be fair? Would it be justice? And, would God accept the infinite excuses and infinite rationalizations for why anybody does not do what is required to enter the Kingdom of God? This is not rocket science and that is why the Bible says that one would have to be like an innocent child to comprehend the simplicity of all this. But no, most men have to make simple things so complicated that they see nothing. What a shame.

     
    • J.M.

      January 31, 2014 at 8:11 PM

      @ But, it’s nice to know that you judge complete strangers.
      One of us is stranger than the other. I’m trying to come up with something you will agree with.I am also familiar with scripture that says: Be careful how you entreat strangers because many of those strangers were angels. Paraphrased, in part. Also proof at least to me, of the power of angels to manifest themselves to look and appear EXACTLY as men & women. I know now MUCH to my sorrow I have “entertained” fallen angels. I say this MUCH to my regret. You would never meet anyone any kinder than they APPEAR to be. It’s all a front.They were ALWAYS in NEED of something.The Angels of The True God are not like that. ALL their needs are met. Live & learn.

       
    • J.M.

      January 31, 2014 at 8:17 PM

      @ Remember, God does not need you….
      OH NO !!! Is that right? I didn’t know that. Now I am shattered. Were your Parents & Grandparents Criminals as you,Mladen define what a criminal is? What about you Great Grandparents?

       
      • Mladen

        January 31, 2014 at 8:57 PM

        Yes, yes, and yes. Everybody secular is a criminal. Too simple for you to admit isn’t it?

        Humility is difficult when it come to admitting that we were duped and we allowed ourselves to be duped by our past ignorance.

         
    • J.M.

      January 31, 2014 at 8:31 PM

      Mladen. were your Parents & Grandparents CRIMINALS, as you,Mladen define what a criminal is? Just answer YES or NO. It appears < (one of your favorite words, appears) that I have to ask you something that requires a sermon from you before you will respond. Do you have a 501(c) 3 Church? I bet you do, OR you will at least say that's the only way to go. Right? Give me a sermon on that question. Also, tell me what you think my answer would be IF you asked me that question which will be or should be a good question for another sermon.

       
      • Mladen

        January 31, 2014 at 9:05 PM

        J.M., are you just a provocateur or do you just have a hard time reading what I actually wrote?

        If you had actually read what I said you would know that all your pathetic secular 501(c) secular money religions have absolutely nothing to do with God? So, why are you so petty to ignorantly accuse me of having a stupid secular church, which I absolutely do not? In your owns words, it is absolutely NOT the way to go —– unless you follow Satan. Is that short enough for you?

        You insinuate or infer that I speak for others and I do not speak for anyone other than myself. I would certainly not attempt to speak for the illogical and twisted thoughts that you have portrayed in this little exchange and I think it is a waste of time and it’s best if we do not speak any further.

        I am sure that you can adequately sermonize yourself. I was just sharing information and if you don’t want to learn there is a little button on your keyboard called “DELETE” and you can hit it and just move on. I agree to disagree with you, in all due respect.

         
    • J.M.

      January 31, 2014 at 9:55 PM

      @ >Do you have a 501(c) 3 Church? I bet you do
      My BAD. I do apologize for asking that question. In all honesty I thought I wrote Non 501(c) 3. Just trying to see IF the Non 501 (c) 3 is all that matters. In other words, since I am so deceived, I could still probably have my own following by simply saying the Church I am Pastor of is a Non 501(c) 3 Church. Now in case it’s misunderstood I would NEVER EVER have the gall & audacity to proclaim to be a Pastor in any manner. I almost did not put Non again. Anyway, really appreciate you totally ignoring my question re: your parents. How many times did I ask you that question? Now please come on back & have the last word so you can be the last man standing? You have said everyone is a Criminal who will not stop using what we understand to be our FAMILY name. At least this is how I understand what you are saying. What am I not understanding about this? My blunder gave you an easy way out. You should like me.

       
      • Mladen

        January 31, 2014 at 10:13 PM

        Man oh man are you annoying! I already answered your question above and you just don’t read.
        I am not insinuating anything, but is there a reason you have a problem with your focus?

        Let me save you the trouble of scrolling up a few inches to see my previously posted answer to your question by copying and pasting it here again. I said:
        ———————————————————————————————————————————–
        January 31, 2014 at 8:57 PM

        Yes, yes, and yes. Everybody secular is a criminal. Too simple for you to admit isn’t it?

        Humility is difficult when it comes to admitting that we were duped and we allowed ourselves to be duped by our past ignorance.
        ————————————————————————————————————————————

        TO BE CLEAR, J.M., so that you do not ask the same question a third time, neither I nor my parents, grandparents or any other past blood relative knew that they were ignorantly participating in a heathen, pagan, secular system of things. But my past ignorance and the ignorance of all of my blood relatives does not change the fact that the sole reason for the surname is for outlawry, which means that it is solely to identify criminals. I little bit of independent research by anybody will confirm this fact. I did not write the facts in the history books and I only read what is there for everybody to see if they simply research and read.

        I hope that you will not twist this information and come back with the ridiculous rationalization that since men write books that men can write anything they want to mislead. That would mean that we should not read anything and so what would be the point of having any conversation about anything? Are you seeking knowledge or are you only looking to argue and debate?

        Just becuase you may not agree with provable facts does not change the fact that something proved and provable is true. In the secular world the government lies to the people all the time and it has no legal or moral obligation to tell the truth. Would Satan tell you the truth? No. And, why would anybody be looking for the knowledge of evil in the first place since knowledge of evil would just keep you deceived and confused? J.M., I hope that you are seeking knowledge of the truth and facts in law so that you do not continue to hold false beliefs that misrepresent the facts in law.

         
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      February 1, 2014 at 10:06 AM

      Malden – How do you know so much about what God and Satan believe and want? I find your entire knowledge base is predicated on the Bible which after the find of the Gnostic Gospel’s is now highly refuted as being of God’s infallible word. What if the entire Bible is just an old Text book that the Romans have attempted to canonize as God’s word fooling millions?

       
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 12:32 PM

        Skip, my friend
        @ your message to Mladen on February 1, 2014 at 10:06 AM
        Whew-Pee & shoo-fly-pie. He, Malden, will not answer you. Mladen MIGHT answer, after he sees this message I am going to try to send to you.If he,Mladen does answer, it is PROOF to me, of how he strains at gnats & swallows elephants. Will explain later, if necessary.

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM

        To: Skip

        Ohhhhh Skip, by the way, I may have misunderstood, but I thought you wrote something about the 10 Commandments. I may have just presumed this. But, if you did mention the 10 commandments you brought “God” into the picture because God is the being the 10 commandments came “from.” To me, those 10 Commandments, ( who some call the 10 “suggestions”) are “love & outgoing concern for others” statements. Now, I’m not a Bible thumper. & I believe you have noticed, I’m not trying to get you or anyone “converted.” But I’m not going to let someone else convert me either like Mladen is doing his utmost best to do. Just allow me to be another one of your Christian friends. When I say Christian, I mean “Christ like.” At least as best as I can be. At this point in my life, I’m no more that just a chip off the Block. The Block is, Emanuel, aka Jesus & other names. I’m only a chip. You will never hear me say that you or anyone else had better start doing this or that when it comes to religious beliefs.This is God’s affair/business. It’s a one on one program. It’s between you & him, & nobody else. Some people have high moral standards because of the way they were “raised.” Maybe not even realizing the source of high moral standards. Let’s stay friends. I.m not ashamed to say, I care for you. I think about you a lot.

         
      • Mladen

        February 3, 2014 at 6:20 PM

        Maybe a picture will help you understand the problem:

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 6:29 PM

        Skip,
        Ok, Here we go, You, Skip, said in pertinent part > Even Jesus’s ideologies have not come to pass, even though I surely attempt to follow it in every aspect of my life.

        I presumed you meant by this statement that, as a follower, you thought the 10 Commandments were to be followed,held in high esteem and meant more than a mere 10 suggestions. I still believe you meant this, i.e., the 10 Commandments are a good thing to live by.

        @ >Thinking that the almighty Mladen, I’m just poking a little fun,……….”
        Well, shoo-fly-pie. Just poking a little a little fun, is just another way of saying or telling it like it is I’m going to use that statement, at times, in the future.Hope I can remember to give you credit.

         
      • J.M.

        February 15, 2014 at 2:51 PM

        To: Skip
        @ >February 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM < Your entire message to Mladen
        Hey Skip, excellent comment.

        I think "moot" is a good surname for Mladen. Mladen said, "Why must people complicate things so much so that they cannot see the simple truth that was right under their nose from the beginning?"

        What about his nose? He apparently ALWAYS KNEW about this so called "simple truth." Anyway, You, Skip still get my vote. No response is expected.

         
    • J.M.

      February 5, 2014 at 10:47 PM

      Mladen,

      @ > J.M., are you just a provocateur or do you just have a hard time reading what I actually wrote?

      I am not having a hard time “reading” what you wrote or write, but, YES INDEED I AM HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WROTE & STILL WRITE !!! UNDERSTAND ???

      Re: Provocateur We are BOTH provocateurs. My explanation will be for someone else to hopefully understand, but not you, Mladen I am a provocateur in this sense. I am a marcher, objector, backer, booster, supporter, radical, ( < we need a radical change) REBEL, Like in Johnny Reb, revolutionary, revolutionist. Get the picture?? persuader () promoter, troublemaker, alarmist, goader, prodder, provoker

      I understand how hard it must be for you,Mladen to be humble, when you’re perfect in every way, but you do have a way of making it hard for me to be humble too.

       
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 11:23 PM

        Every time my comment appears with slanted to the right words, it leaves out part of the message. The part that did not post, IS,Mladen YOU are a provocateur in this sense,> persuader (< half ass) promoter, troublemaker, alarmist, goader, prodder, provoker

         
    • J.M.

      February 10, 2014 at 8:21 PM

      Mladen,
      @ > In the secular world the government lies to the people all the time and it has no legal or moral obligation to tell the truth. Would Satan tell you the truth? No……….”

      @ In the secular world the government lies to the people all the time……”
      WOW !!! REALLY !! I didn’t know that. THANK YOU, Mladen,as I said, I’m a lurn-nunn

      @ Would Satan tell you the truth? No……….

      Ohhh PLEASE, Mladen, PLEASE !!! Satan WILL tell the truth TOO !! SOMETIMES !!! Satan mixes TRUTH with LIES. For the little children’s sake, Satan quoted Scripture to the AUTHOR of the Scriptures. Was what Satan quoted a LIE? OR, was Satan telling the truth regarding what he, Satan was quoting? There are other EXAMPLES in the Scriptures of Satan telling the truth, but also telling lies, intermixed.

      Mladen, you could really clear up at least a lot of things you preach about by saying how you “make a living.” You must do something to EARN what it takes to have the necessities of life. Even tho you say 99% of all the questions I, J.M. ask are rhetorical, IF you would answer them they would not be rehtorical. You DID FINALLY answer my question re: IF your parents were secular. Please answer the question I asked, in this message, supra, above, this paragraph.OR, Is this question another one of those HARD to be humble & fessup questions? In other words would your truthful answer be too secular of an explanation? I think it is. Make a liar out of me Mladen. I’m asking you to do just that, make a liar out of me. Now, Mladen, IF you asked me, J.M. the same question, my answer would be, I am a common laborer, simple maintenance labor, e.g. I mow peoples yards, cut their weeds, paint rooms, etc.

       
  16. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 7:34 PM

    @ Skip, you and many others are not only not on the same page as I am on, which is God’s page.

    Thank you Heavenly Father in the NAME of your Son, The King of ALL Kings !!! The “God” you, Mladen are talking about, AND THE ONE WHO IS THE GOD OF THIS EVIL WORLD.is made is showing/made in your NEXT statement, infra.

    @And, Satan says, thanks for trying because he is a collector of souls and you guys are currently in his book of death.

    Whose page were you on when you,Mladen, made that statement? “Satan says ……….”
    Also Satan is known as The Father of LIES. I say he is a “God” DAMNED LIAR. He’s damned & he ain’t happy about it either, NAW SUH & Satan is all out to take as many people as possible with him to Doomsville.

     
  17. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    @ Everybody secular is a criminal.
    Now Please,Mladen, I am either having a mental block here or I am just plain100% stupid. Is Alfred Adask, SECULAR? If so, then you are saying he is a CRIMINAL but watering the word CRIMINAL, down by calling it SECULAR. I can just imagine a Public Prostitutor saying to the Judge, Your honor, Mr Mladen was arrested for committing the secular act of (whatever)

     
    • Mladen

      January 31, 2014 at 10:21 PM

      “Mr.” is a secular term for “Master” and I am not a master. Furthermore, the judge has no jurisdiction over my God-given inalienable Christian name on its own and I have abandoned the secular debtor surname to Caesar, as in render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. You continue to display your lack of knowledge about even the secular law. I make no claim to the surname property that I do not own.

      You can make any claim that you want and it is pointless unless you can prove your claim. So, let’s just get real for a moment. J.M., do you have any proof whatsoever that the secular surname that you use is your property? How about a short “Yes” or “No” honest answer from you for a change?
      The only thing that matters in law is what you can prove. So, what is your proof that the secular surname and the secular legal name is your property? I look forward to your reply with proof.

       
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 12:51 PM

        Mladen
        @“Mr.” is a secular term for “Master” and I am not a master
        You’re not? I didn’t know that.
        Look-e here HOSS !!! I know what the origin IS of MISTER. Mister stems from “MYSTERY.” BUT, you will not find the correct definition of MISTER in ANY dictionary unless it’s a law dictionary. BLACK seems/appears to be your favorite color so look up the word MYSTERY in BLACK’s LAW DICTIONARY. Why don’t you post a beginning & final document FROM GOV-CO proving JUST ONE of your wins? Is it because you don’t want anyone to SEE that GOV-CO uses your or A “last name” they apply to you? Huh? Is that the reason? Give me something to show your belief works.

         
      • J.M.

        February 4, 2014 at 6:49 AM

        To who it may concern,
        Mladen says to me,Jim Madison,a.k.a., J.M. on January 31, at 10:21pm, “How about a short “Yes” or “No” honest answer from you for a change?

        Mladen is asking me for an honest answer. This strongly implies that I have been dishonest in my responses & is his, Mladen’s attempt to at least imply to anyone else that I am not honest. The following are questions I have asked Mladen, & as of yet, February 4th,2014, Mladen has not responded. He has responded by telling me that my questions are rhetorical. Once again I asked Mladen the following questions.

        Why don’t you post a beginning & final document FROM GOV-CO proving JUST ONE of your wins? < No answer/response

        Is it because you don’t want anyone to SEE that GOV-CO uses your or A “last name” they apply to you? Huh? Is that the reason? Give me something to show your belief works. < No answerS or response

        Are you are saying IF we quit using the surname this will reverse everything? < No answer

        AFTER you “corrected” this “error” of the surname being the “cause” of your/our woes, have you ever been charged or accused with any kind of “alleged violation” of statutory law? < No answer/response

        What about “Race” ? Does this enter into the picture? Race? < No answer

        It is written in the Holy Bible that, Joseph of Arimathea. was a “good & just man.” What sayest thou Mladen? < No answer

        It’s questions such as these question are that you ignore, & the scripture that says it’s a shame for a man to have long hair. Did you see my comment earlier about long hair? What doth that meanth? Shame for a man to have long hair. Was that where & when you said, look enough is enough this is getting to be annoying. Well, the “rich young ruler” had a breaking point too. Remember that scripture? And, Satan says, thanks for trying because he is a collector of souls and you guys are currently in his book of death.

        I,J.M., asked Mladen, Whose page were you on when you, Mladen, made that statement? “Satan says ……….” < no answer/response

        Mladen, What do you mean by “Adask-ity” ? < No answer

        Do you have a NON 501 (c) 3 church? < No answer as of yet, 2/4/14

        Mladen, I have responded to you honestly in everything I said. I did make the error of asking you if you had a 501(c) 3 Church instead of a NON 501(c) 3 Church. I apologized for making that mistake. Until you will answer the above questions I have asked, I will not answer anymore of yours.

         
      • Mladen

        February 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM

        Dear Jim MADISON, aka J.M.,

        You are a very confused man who admitted in his own words to being many things that are very dishonourable. Why do you continue your frivolous attack and childish name-calling? You have no purpose. You accuse me of not answering your questions, which is not true, it is just that you appear to lack the ability to read because I have answered some of your questions three times. I intentionally ignored other questions because they are pointless. There is no way for me to post the successes that you ask about on this blog.

        If you want the proofs I can send them via email directly to you if you ask for them by sending me an email at child52of144hotmail.com . Unfortunately, I need to provide a little bit of background explanation for each success and you may not want to read what you call my sermon. Also, these successes are not meant to monkey-wrench the secular court system and this is not my aim as a true Christian, as my intent is to be out, not to stay in the secular system of things.

        So, Jim MADISON, or as they would put it on your wallet-sized (short form) State BIRTH CERTIFICATE, MADISON, JIM, the unnecessary addition of the “Debtor” surname “Addition” is a blasphemy against God, whether anybody wants to admit it or not, and whether anybody wants to do their research and due diligence or not.

        Since being a friend with the world is being an enemy of God (see James 4:4 [KJV]), and not being able to serve mammon (money, profit, gain) and God (see Matthew 6:24 [KJV]), and having to choose between good and evil, and being directed to come out of her (see Revelation 18:4 [KJV]), I have abandoned the secular surname and the secular world (system of things) and I have re-sided with God, my Maker, Creator and true Father. To be clear, I have abandoned the bond of bondage, that being the State BIRTH CERTIFICATE or Federal CITIZENSHIP CERTIFICATE where ignorant people do not understand that they become the voluntary debtor for a stranger, the definition of being a surety (guarantor, warrantor) by being the “Bearer” or holder in due course of the BC bond.

        Yes, in a free and democratic secular society that the ignorant argue and defend to their permanent death you are free to assume the debt of another, you are free to apply, volunteer and consent to your own slavery. You are free to be deceived under Satan’s evil side. Now that’s freedom!

        —- Mladen
        —– child52of144@hotmaillcom
        ——- https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianRemedyInLaw

         
    • Mladen

      January 31, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      Again you ask rhetorical questions. As Jesus said to Pilate when Jesus made the perfect confession to the false accusation of the Pharisees, as repeated by Pilate, “So say you.” You said it, I did not.

       
      • J.M.

        January 31, 2014 at 11:23 PM

        Again you ask rhetorical questions.
        Now we are back to square one. This is about, or close to how it started out, rhetorical questions. Now look I promise you,You will have the last. word. Your yes-yes-yes message came in AFTER my message posted re: same. I had asked the question MORE than 3 times before you said yes yes yes.As far as being annoying, I understand that. Gov-co agents tell me that too.I’m an annoying Constitutionalist. I’m belligerent too. Belligerent & annoying. Yes Yes Yes. I will refer to the surname & ALL the aka’s as my family name. I like my family name unless it is used in all capital case & putting my Family name BEFORE my Christian name, & BOTH in all upper case That’s the only way I know to explain it. But in all honesty I do not appreciate you saying that I am dishonest. IF I KNEW someone was dishonest I would not want to have ANYTHING to do with him/her. Why do you? Also, you have asked me the >>> Have you stopped beating your wife question & demanding that I answer YES or NO. I AM HONEST. AND I DO NOT LIKE IT 1 IOTA that YOU SAY I’M NOT. You can call me stupid & I will say you are right, It doesn’t bother me at all to be called a honky, cracker, paleface,etc., EXCEPT Caucasian How about a short “Yes” or “No” honest answer from you for a change? HONEST ANSWER ? FOR A CHANGE?? You grrrrrrrrr

         
      • J.M.

        February 1, 2014 at 10:35 AM

        I am convinced you,Mladen, monitor this blog & when you see 2 or 3 “new” posters that’s when you make your move to start your proselytizing efforts,etc. & what is sad, IS I know a few will fall for your preaching. It looks like you don’t want to have the last word. What’s the latest word from Satan ? You, Mladen said to me, man you are annoying. TRUE, You damn right !!! Maybe now you understand why I said you better tell your co-hort that he better think again about wanting or having me with him. You should understand now. Tell your partner, Satan, I said to go to, you know where. Aw shucks, ain’t no sense in telling anyone to go where he/she/it are already headed. I’m a lurrnunn.

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 7:43 PM

        @ The remedy right her and right now is in the same Book that tells the story of the global flood. Unfortunately, most people do not read or accept the remedy.

        Are you,Mladen saying that in addition to doing away with the “family name”, all we have to do next is bestow upon ourselves the name of, Noah? Is that the remedy “her” and right now?

         
      • J.M.

        February 4, 2014 at 4:42 PM

        Mladen,
        Why, in your opinion, or,knowledge, were The Apostles Peter & Paul put in Prison? The Scripture tells me that they were put in prison for obeying God laws rather than the laws men but ONLY WHEN the laws of men conflicted with the laws of God. In other words, Peter & Paul OBEYED the laws of men UNLESS those man made laws conflicted with God’s laws. I think you MIGHT agree that Peter & Paul WERE put in prison. If so, was it because Peter used, or allowed to be used as referring to him, Peter, the Fisherman? Is it because of, The Fisherman, in addition to, Peter, that was the “REAL” reason Peter was put in prison? If so, then this is also why Paul of Tarsus went to prison. For the sake of making a point, let’s say it’s Peter Fisherman & Paul Tarsus. You,Mladen have made it crystal clear that Fisherman & Tarsus are secular criminal names.Tell me, Why was Peter & Paul put in prison from your understanding.unless the “surnames” were the cause.

        Ohhhh Good News for you. I know you are not aware that somebody is cutting & pasting an earlier response I made to you way back when I admit you,Mladen DID have have me “nibbling” at your bait, & placing that response on other threads. I wonder what else could be accomplished? I don’t really care because I believe every secret thing done will also be made known when the time comes to do that. Please read the first sentence/question in this message & answer that question.Oh, & this one too. Do you have a NON 501(c) 3 church? Just answer by saying, yes-no-don’t know. If you do have a NON 501(c) 3 church, I believe in giving tithes & offerings so will you allow me to give at least an offering & tell me how I go about doing this? Thank you so much. Look up, don’t worry, & be happy.

         
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 11:33 PM

        @ >Again you ask rhetorical questions

        And, again you supply links of long haired hippies that tells me AND shows me that you are not going to honor every word of God, only that part you decide is applicable & the rest is notwithstanding. I have tried hard to understand what you are trying to show & say, But I have seen & heard enough to be convinced that you only want a following to sooth your EGO.

         
      • J.M.

        February 10, 2014 at 8:58 PM

        Dear Jim MADISON, aka J.M.,
        @ > You are a very confused man…………..”

        TRUE !!! When it comes to trying to understand YOU, & ALL of what you write about, YES I am confused. & BECAUSE something(s) IS MISSING in what you, Mladen say. AND when I think I might know WHAT is missing & ask you about it, you either ignore it completely, say it is a rhetorical question, or give some confusing reason as to why you are not going to answer the question(s).

        But, FINALLY, after I ask over & over & over, You do answer ONE of my questions, & say yes.yes,yes. Then you try & justify your yes, yes, yes, answer with a long & drawn out sermon about why I, J.M. need to understand YOUR situation, etc., but there is apparently NO EXCUSE for the rest of us criminals to instantly understand what you preach about. Yes, Yes, Yes, Mladen, I am still confused, but you are not much of a helper in taking away this confusion. You only add to it, and do so by not answering my questions, except FINALLY you did answer ONE of the many I asked. Well, at least as of yet, Alfred Adask has not referred to me as stupid, BUT that is, as of yet. I will save him the trouble. I admit I am STUPID for trying to reason with you,Mladen AND if I get kicked off this blog, I have enough sense to know I asked for it.

         
      • J.M.

        February 10, 2014 at 9:09 PM

        @ How did you guys miss the fact that the one-and-only purpose of the surname is for outlawry, which is to identify criminals?
        In other words, you always knew about it? Or if not, how did you miss that fact, as you call it? Until you discovered that “fact, why & how did you go about MISSING IT ” ???

         
  18. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Here we go again, in that only about half my message posted on January 31, @ 11:23 pm

     
  19. J.M.

    January 31, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    ok here we go, YOU,Mladed say >@ How did you guys miss the fact that the one-and-only purpose of the surname is for outlawry, which is to identify criminals?
    So the Commander and Chief of this blog is a criminal too. I don’t understand how this blog is not also a criminal blog with & by the way you,Mladen identify criminals. And I do not understand why you want to stay on a criminalized blog. Look HOSS, I like my family name but I DO NOT like the way it is used by gov-co

     
    • Mladen

      February 2, 2014 at 7:22 PM

      If you hold the false belief that the “Family name”, or surname, is your property, then you missed the fact in law that it is NOT your name and it belongs to “Gov-co” as you call it. You are simply renting the surname from the true owner, which is not you. That is why you must apply and pay for its use. If it was your property than you would never have to apply or pay for anything that it is used for. And, you only need a “License” to use property that does not belong to you. If you do not know this fact in law then you will forever be lost in a loop of not-knowing because everything is based on this foundation. There is much more to this, but you must understand the foundation.

       
      • J.M.

        February 2, 2014 at 8:20 PM

        Mladen
        @ You are simply renting the surname from the true owner, which is not you.

        Well, as I said before. I’m a lurn-nunn. Re: The men who signed their “John Henry’s” on the Statute of 1776, & the 1789 Constitution WHO were THEY Renting from. WHO were they paying RENT to? RENT for, as YOU, Mladen, call it, a name identifying criminals,e.g., Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison Did they ever get their rent raised?

         
      • Mladen

        February 2, 2014 at 8:32 PM

        You have much more lurn-nunn (as you say) to do J.M.

        How did you miss the following facts? :

        – You were not a party to the original declaration of independence and you did not sign it.
        – Most of the fifty men who did sign their independence declaration were masons and/or lawyers.
        – The signatories to the independence declaration were committing treason against the British.
        – The signatories were granted their surnames from their British feudal lords.
        – The British feudal lords owned the surnames. Nothing has changed today.
        – Yes, all these holier than now men were criminals, whether they pretended to not know or not.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM

        Mladen, wrote: How did you miss the following facts? :
        – You were not a party to the original declaration of independence and you did not sign it.
        – Most of the fifty men who did sign their independence declaration were masons and/or lawyers.
        – The signatories to the independence declaration were committing treason against the British.
        – The signatories were granted their surnames from their British feudal lords.
        – The British feudal lords owned the surnames. Nothing has changed today.
        – Yes, all these holier than now men were criminals, whether they pretended to not know or not.
        ____________________________________________________________________________

        Our founding fathers thought it pragmatic that they separate themselves from the tyranny of the British Crown and establish a better form of government. Being wrong does not make them criminals because I thing that I can make irrefutable arguments they the United States of Amerika is not longer a lawfully Constituted society. When the gained their independence from the Brits, did they not separate the so-called ownership of their surnames from the British and place that ownership to each individual, hence decriminalizing themselves as their surnames are no longer owned by the British lords. They even went to effort of making titles of nobility illegal.

        It appears to me that YOU are placing a legal stipulation on the use of surnames in our lives and by doing this you think that this will somehow separate out the good folks and protect them from the bad folks. I do not see the effects of your position anywhere in our society, either individual, legal or institutional. If a position has no affect, that position is therefore moot.

        If it is your point to attempt to institute such a legal position into our society, that is another issue but saying that I’m a criminal because of the name I use to call myself, given to me by parents who did not know what you are talking about, trust me they didn’t, is illogical both legally and morally.

         
      • J.M.

        February 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM

        Mladen
        @ >February 2, 2014 at 7:17 PM
        @ >How dare you have the adask-ity to say that?

        Mladen, I believe with all my heart that you would never, at least knowingly, desecrate anyone’s Christian Name. I’m not too sure I can say the same thing about anyone’s “family Name.” Therefore, what does this, “Adask-ity” mean? I may be wrong, but I am beginning to think you, Mladen, are crusin for a brusin.

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 12:43 AM

        Mladen,
        Re: Joseph of Arimathea.
        It is written in the Holy Bible that, Joseph of Arimathea. was a “good & just man.” What sayest thou Mladen? It’s questions such as this question is, that you ignore, & the scripture that says it’s a shame for a man to have long hair. Did you see my comment earlier about long hair? What doth that meanth? Shame for a man to have long hair. Was that where & when you said, look enough is enough this is getting to be annoying. Well, the “rich young ruler” had a breaking point too. Remember that scripture?

         
  20. J.M.

    February 2, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    To Mladen,
    @ You have much more lurn-nunn (as you say) to do J.M.
    I know, & I agree.
    But, I also know that you, Mladen, completely ignore some of my questions. You not only are a cherry picker of scriptures in the Word of God, The Creator AND The Sustainer of the ENTIRE Universe, YOU Mladen, are a cherry picker of my questions too. Soon, there will undoubtedly be new posters & you will start your efforts to bring them into your fold. I went way way back on this blog, & I see your pattern, how you operate. What is the latest word from, Satan? Does he still want me? Don’t make a fool of yourself, Mladen, & say, He, Satan has got me. That would be letting the cat out of the bag & THEN anyone with ANY sense will know how STUPID Satan is. Now we can’t do that now, can we? Well,yes, we could if we wanted to show our ignurnce.is more so than originally thought. What a-ulse ya got HOSS !!! Lay it on me. Edjurkate mae.

     
  21. J.M.

    February 3, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    @ You were not a party to the original declaration of independence and you did not sign it.

    I was not a “party” (< I did not sign my name) to the last will & testament My parents signed their names on either, leaving me an "inheritance." I had this "inheritance" for a while but it was stolen by a judge & an attorney. Two "people" who abused & misused their power. The same thing has happened with the 1789 Constitution, our inheritance has been stolen. I could not "keep" my inheritance, & I also remember the words of Benjamin "Franklin" "A Republic if you can KEEP it."

     
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      February 3, 2014 at 11:07 AM

      J.M. A couple of years ago, after literal studying socio-economic for 40 years, I came to the conclusion that society has “yet” to develop a political system the actually works for what is in the real best interest of the majority and most of those who seek political power know this. I wrote a short essay “The Fallacy of Democracy. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/harrietrobbins/UU38TwCmrjQ -, to point out a “few” of the basic reasons, just enough to make people realize that even the basic ones are overwhelming evidence. Just goggle why democracies fail and you will get a plethora of links with some going into much greater detail.

      We have had various types of government around for so long that we therefore believe it to be a necessity even though, “as is” it is really a bad system and institution. Legalizing force and coercion has surely provided an extremely violent world. Is mankind bound, by instinct, to be so violent is the ultimate question. I do see the sociopathic instincts in some but not in most people which leads me to believe that it is not necessarily in our disposition and perhaps it is the institution itself which is propagating the higher levels of violence we are experiencing.

      We have the ability to create a better system, but it will sadly require reprograming almost our entire system. How many more boom and bust economic cycles will the majority endure before they will throw in the towel on our current system?

       
      • Jetlag

        February 3, 2014 at 12:16 PM

        “How many more boom and bust economic cycles will the majority endure before they will throw in the towel on our current system?”

        The majority will endure the flaws of their current system until someone shows them a practical alternative.

        Pointing out the imperfections of a boat’s design is not enough to make its passengers jump in the water.

        Where is the better boat for them to board?

         
      • Mladen

        February 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM

        Hi Jetlag,

        Funny that you should use a boat analogy when you ask for a solution. In the story of the global flood there was a boat (i.e. Ark) built to save the people who believed the word of the One who said that the flood would happen. Unfortunately, only 8 people out of 8 million (according to the 17th century commentary from Matthew Henry) boarded the boat (Ark). So, the people were told what the remedy was and only 8 out of 8 million (i.e. one in a million) accepted the remedy. Whose fault was it that the rest of the 8 million perished?

        The remedy right her and right now is in the same Book that tells the story of the global flood. Unfortunately, most people do not read or accept the remedy.

        Most people are so far off in secular nonsense that some of the time I have no idea of how to begin to reach most people and their mentality is so low and shallow. Most people are too busy in their secular work. The word “JOB” means supposed public work for private dishonest gain according to Noah Webster’s dictionary. And, when not working most people spend their time with secular entertainment. Can you say, “Superbowl?” I have no idea who played or who won and it does not matter since it makes no difference to anyone other than the few private men who were paid to play.
        When ignorant people insist on stubbornly holding on to their false beliefs where do you start the journey of truth and facts?

        In closing, Jetlag, and in keeping with your boat analogy, why are people stubbornly insisting on staying in a sinking boat?

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM

        Shalom,dear Skip
        Will try to respond to both comments from you. hope it ALL will post. Sometimes only part of my comments go through & when this happens, it is one mass mess of confusion.

        @We have the ability to create a better system, but it will sadly require reprograming almost our entire system.
        If MORE people were like you, fair, reasonable, kind, firm,etc., I could agree. Most people are not like you. If we could eliminate hate, greed, & jealousy, I could agree with you.I am convinced by the 6,000 years of recorded history & the results we wrote about, that I am right. I KNOW this too, IT WILL BE MADE RIGHT but to explain HOW & WHY I know this would take a while. Here is a hint. The ONE thing that “God” did not create in man was perfect character. This is left up to & for us to do. Character, to me, is knowing right from wrong & determined to choose to do right. Only “God” can say what is right & wrong & if we choose to do right, which sometimes IS a battle, & stay firm in that choice, we are building character. It is also a lifetime process. I also know the end result of making this “right choice” & it is the “end result” that matters in all things.God is allowing us to know first hand what it is like to not do it his way. His way is really, an outgoing concern for others. Overall it’s anything but this with the way most people are. Even so,there is more to the story.
        Thanks for the link, will check it out.

        @ J.M. Please bring me up to date on the case your are writing about with Maritime laws and Prize.
        I have no idea what you are referring to. If you mean why I said, “In Rem” on another thread, consider this. Why is it called a crime if we fail to buckle up? Recall the click it or ticket warning? They want to protect their greatest asset (their property) in every way they can.or think they can.

         
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 9:08 PM

        Skip,
        I clicked on the link & got a warning about “Adult Content” I am required/advised to click proceed If I want to ignore the warning. In all honesty, I would not click on “proceed” if I was not directly communicating with you. Are you familiar about this warning? What is the adult content?

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 5, 2014 at 11:43 AM

        J.M. I think there is a setting somewhere that I need to change. I wish it would say for “Mature Readers Only”. LOL. There are a few cuss words perhaps but nothing that would negate someone who reads at this level, as offensive. Intellectually perhaps, but that is another issue. It’s just a collection of some of the things I’ve written over the last several years. I’ve had a few hundred readers. The articles on the IRS and Unconstituted Authority have been the most read. The Power Point Presentation on the Notice of Federal Tax Lien is cool. I’m pretty sure I have enough evidence to show how the Government is fraudulently enforcing the Federal Personal Income tax. Like I said before, the issues of Positive Law and the Court Rulings are the circumstantial evidence. The real issue and legal evidence is the Kind of Tax and related IRC Sections all shown by cutting and pasting the relevant Sections. I can do a better job – that was my first attempt and just haven’t had the time to go through it again and improve it. I really need a good editor also. I think most of all I need to get the heart of the subject quicker and show the circumstantial evidence later.

         
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM

        @I wish it would say for “Mature Readers Only”. LOL.
        Well,shucks This leaves me out then. I am maturing, somewhat, I hope. However, I will check it out, & see, hopefully, IF I have matured enough to comprehend what I read. I want to be a “high level reader” like Jetlag is, but additionally, I want to understand what I am reading. Know what I mean, see what I’m saying, understand what I’m talking about ? Are we still friends?

         
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        Skip, Remember,
        Dear Taxpayer I was so uplifted when I once received letters from, I. R.epresent S.atan, starting out with, Dear Taxpayer. < Isn't that just so sweet, DEAR Taxpayer. It made my blood boil. Dear TAXPAYER. I'm gonna go to the link now. Thanks, Skip.

         
  22. Harry Skip Robinson

    February 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    J.M. Please bring me up to date on the case your are writing about with Maritime laws and Prize. I love the old history on privateers and militias. Some suggest that most of the operations of the “Court” today are being done under Maritime Law as the flag flown in almost every court room today has the gold fringe on it which is our Maritime flag. Have your are anyone else ever heard of this? Article III courts etc.

     
    • Mladen

      February 3, 2014 at 12:37 PM

      Skip, for a guy who dismissed the lost and confused and deceived “Patriots” and “sovereigns” and “Freeman of the land” movements, you and J.M. sure seem to be interested in much of their false beliefs. All these secular groups have one thing in common and that is that they do not know the true law. Plus, they like to confuse things by mixing their secular false beliefs with false-Christian out-of-context quotes from the Bible whenever it is convenient and expedient for their secular ulterior motives. The “Freemen” do not even know the origin of that term and “Freemen” was from the Feudal Lord that allowed his feudal serfs (servants, slaves) to trade amongst each other.

      A few years ago when I was conducting my research I also read a socio-economics book and it started with the statement, “Satan is God turned upside down.” At least the book was not mincing words because it was telling people who is in charge of the governments of the secular world.

      I find it curious how most people bitch and complain about the secular world most of the time when there is absolutely no solution or remedy in it. Man only creates problems and no individual man or any critical mass of the collective (aggregate) ever has the will to fix any of the problems they created since it would not be in the best interest of their private selfish pocketbook (money, profit). How can people apply, volunteer and consent to being part of the “Admiralty”, or whatever you want to call it, which is a mixed war between the mere private persons and the government Stratocracy (rule by military force), and then comply about what they consent to?

      I have heard and read the silly cliché about a “Free and democratic (secular) society” so many times from people that have no idea what it is. In democracy you can believe in anything and anything goes. The problem is that as long as you keep your beliefs to yourself it is OK and the moment you take any action based on your beliefs that goes against the alleged public interest you find out just how not free your alleged freedom is.

      Also, what’s free in a society where you have to pay just to rest your head at night? What’s free in a society where you have to get social insurance, life insurance, disability insurance, automobile insurance, home insurance, and where you have to pay for absolutely every piece of property and every action that you do in secular society? Where is the freedom in that? There is none. In secular society you must pay to play in the illusion. And, what’s funny is how people will bitch and complain about all of the tax, duty, customs, and fees they have to pay when they do not even realize that the reason that they have to pay to play is that they are using property that does not belong to them and that is why they need a driver’s licence or permit or why they need permission and pay fees to the state for every state-regulated occupation and profession.

      Do you think it is something in the polluted air, polluted water or polluted food that has polluted the minds of men? Or, is it something more sinister that people do not want to admit to?

      And, is this why some people choose to speculate about unproven and un-provable opinions based on false beliefs to explain away things that they do not understand?

      Why must people complicate things so much so that they cannot see the simple truth that was right under their nose from the beginning? A home will fall if it has a weak foundation. A people will fall if the foundation of their beliefs is false. So, what are the foundation identity documents that underlie most of the peoples’ false beliefs? Who are you and “What” are you not? Those are the important questions you must answer if you want a remedy. If you do not seek a remedy than just continue speculating and expounding false opinions based on false beliefs.

      The only thing in law that matters is what you can prove. So, what can you prove?

       
      • J.M.

        February 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM

        To, guess who, WHY the one & ONLY
        @Why must people complicate things so much so that they cannot see the simple truth that was right under their nose from the beginning?

        What about your nose? You’re a pompous, arrogant, self righteous hypocrite and those are some of your good traits. You would make a great salesman, Pour out everything you got & if there’s no sale, you start all over again from the start with your sales speech.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        Mladen, The courts are corrupt and only by changing this can we ever really be able to assert and defend our rights. To give some further knowledge of my thoughts and ideas, read this article. It’s by John Hasnas, Univ. of Wisconsin – http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/2011/12/29/the-myth-of-the-rule-of-law/

        I also believe the rule of law is a myth. It is in realty and always has been, the law by those who currently rule, each getting worse and worse as the country goes through its economic cycle.

        I have been working on an idea. I call it the “Voluntary Association of Jurists” – by the way, I’m a libertarian of the anarcho-capitalist variety, a Unitarian and a vagitarian. lol – if you haven’t already figured it out.

        I want to get a group of people together that can make the appellate Judges look like the corrupt idiots the are. I want to do it through a highly encrypted cloud website that initially allows those involved to be protected from retaliation. The idea is to show how the judiciary has abrogated the intent of the Constitution, through their various decisions like the We The People v the US when they abrogated the 1st Amendment, “the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances”, that went virtually unnoticed by the entire country or the Kelo v New London, where property rights were stomped on by our illustrious SCOTUS. I sure everyone has their favorite examples, as their are so many. Some other details on the system. http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/

         
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:28 PM

        Mladen,
        The PP exchange continues. This will be the 3rd or 4th time I have asked you to respond as to why the Apostles Peter & Paul were incarcerated, put in prison, If you are unaware of who the Apostles Peter & Paul are/were, it’s Peter, the Fisherman, & Paul of Tarsus.

        I am “pleased” with, not PROUD of, my family name. As far as being humble, I’m working on it, to become that way. I’m learning a lot from you on how to be humble. Thanks.

         
    • J.M.

      February 3, 2014 at 1:10 PM

      This gold fringed flag is the flag authorized by statute as the Flag of the “Commander and Chief of the U,S. armed forces. The statute DOES authorize this flag to be displayed in court rooms as well as other places. BUT as far as a courtroom goes, in a “military court room” only. Want the statute that says this? I’m asking gently, so please don’t misunderstand. I wish you would stop wasting you precious time & energy on MAUL D MIRE. Let me handle him. YOU, Skip have bigger fish to fry. MAUL D MIRE has the noose around his neck but he is to blind to see & too ignurnt to know it.

       
    • J.M.

      February 3, 2014 at 2:51 PM

      Skip,
      P.S. I don’t believe the “Motor Vehicles” The “peace officers” use are called “CRUISERS” just coincidentally. But even if we did know the who,what,when, why & where of everything, this “knowing” still does not change anything. I’m not a pessimist The end result is, WE WIN. War is not a pretty picture & we are in a war.

       
  23. J.M.

    February 3, 2014 at 1:50 PM

    Mladen, HOSS !! SUPP?
    @ I find it curious how most people bitch and complain about the secular world most of the time when there is absolutely no solution or remedy in it. Man only creates problems and no individual man.
    RE: I find it curious how most people bitch and complain… NO PROBLEM just tellum to change their “U no what.”The ID that identifies them as CRIMINALS.
    RE: and no individual man
    There you go.FINALLY !! You finally used the word, individual, in a way that is proper/correct,etc. Yer a lurnunn too

    Why don’t you,Mladen, HOSS, HONCHO, go over to the last, at this time thread & share some of your superior knowledge, understanding, and wisdom with the people on that thread? Ohhh my, another rhetorical question PRESS ON, Mladen, Anchors aaaaaa way. OR is this a way to say it,”Anchors Aweigh”

     
  24. J.M.

    February 3, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    @ Skip, for a guy who dismissed the lost and confused and deceived “Patriots” and “sovereigns” and “Freeman of the land” movements, you and J.M. sure seem to be interested in much of their false beliefs.

    You are understanding ASS BACKURDS. Do you know what ass backwards means? Let Skip alone. He is a gentle-man. Get off Skip’s back. Throw your slurs at me. I’m not a gentleman. I’m a hard ass annoying, belligerent, malicious, expeditious, injudicious, WHITE delicious, repetitious, superstitious, nit pikin first cousin to the ambitious likes of your type, Malden It takes you 20 pages for you to say how to resolve.all pertinent issues when it all boils down to a doing away with the Family name. THAT’S ALL YOU KNOW & PREACH. Why do you want to write page after page of “insightful information” when it all boils down to, simply dropping off the criminal surname as you, Mladen, call it You could say in 1 sentence ALL you know. Remember, let Skip alone.Lay your garbage on me.

     
  25. Mladen

    February 4, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    Dear Jim Madison and Skip Harry and anybody else who agrees with their false beliefs and misguided and confused defence of sinful secular society, you guys are engaging in BLASPHEMY.

    When you guys have the arrogant audacity to hold the false belief that you are “Sovereigns without subjects” you are really claiming to be in charge as your own little gods. That is blasphemy. God does not need His created to believe that they are the Creator. But, of course, in a free and democratic society, which is secular, by definition God-less and non-spiritual, and absolutely opposed to God, any malarkey goes, doesn’t it? Please do not mix up and confuse a sinful secular society under the delusion of being free and democratic to excuse infinite lies, frauds and immoral and unconscionable behaviour and false beliefs that misrepresent the facts in law, with anything to do with God, which is Theocracy.

    Unfortunately, for whatever personal reason he may have, Jim Madison in particular takes general statements as if they were personal insults even though the intent of the writer is simply to show the facts and any references as general references to the ignorance (lack of knowledge) of the masses.

    It is what it is and so please do not be shallow, stupid and ignorant by taking this general comment as a personal insult and do not falsely accuse me of writing the English Dictionary definitions as shown below. BLASPHEMY definitions [ SOURCE: https://www.wordnik.com/words/blasphemy ] :

    from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 4th Edition
    • n. A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity.
    • n. The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God.
    • n. An irreverent or impious act, attitude, or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct.

    from The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia
    • n. In Old Testament usage, any attempt to diminish the reverence with which Jehovah’s name was invested as the Sovereign King of the Jews, or to turn the hearts of the people from their complete allegiance to him.
    • n. Hence Any impious or profane speaking of God or of sacred things; reproachful, contemptuous, or irreverent words uttered impiously against God or religion.
    • n. Blasphemy cognizable by common law is described by Blackstone to be “denying the being or providence of God, contumelious reproaches of our Saviour Christ, profane scoffing at the Holy Scripture, or exposing it to contempt or ridicule”; by Kent as “maliciously reviling God or religion”; and by Chief Justice Lemuel Shaw as “speaking evil of the Deity with an impious purpose to derogate from the Divine Majesty, and to alienate the minds of others from the love and reverence of God.” Blasphemy is punished as a crime or a misdemeanor by the laws of many nations. In the Roman Catholic Church, language irreverent toward the Virgin Mary and the saints is also held to be blasphemy.
    • n. Evil speaking or abusive language against anything held sacred: as, “blasphemy against learning,”
    • n. An indecent or scurrilous utterance, as distinguished from fair and respectful discussion; grossly irreverent or outrageous language.
    • n. A blasphemer; a blasphemous person.
    • n. Synonyms Blasphemy, Profanity, agree in expressing the irreverent use of words, but the former is the stronger, and the latter the wider. Profanity is language irreverent toward God or holy things, covering especially all oaths that, literally interpreted, treat lightly the attributes or acts of God. Blasphemy is generally more direct, intentional, and defiant in its impiety, and is directed toward the most sacred things in religion.

    Only God can make an heir according to even the secular maxims of law. Man only makes errors. It takes a humble man to admit that he is wrong.

    Jim MADISON, you do not show any attributes of humbleness and in your own words and writing you have publicly displayed your arrogance and ignorance. It’s all very nice that you have many opinions and false beliefs; but, unfortunately those mean nothing in light of the fact that you have absolutely no evidence to prove the facts in law. In a free and democratic society you can believe anything you want to believe, but if you act against the alleged public interest of the alleged democratic society then you are no longer free to act for what you believe.

    You can make any statement you want, but if it is not true then it is fraud. And, fraud is not fraud as long as you apply, volunteer and consent to continue to participate in the fraud that is known as a free and democratic society in which there is much romance, which is for love and war so that you can hold false beliefs and tell a lie.

    Jim, can you please explain why you need a license and why you need to insure it if the surname or legal name were your property?

    Jim, you still have not answered my question and you have not proved that you own the Coat-of-Arms (heraldry, arms for war) to the arms surname, MADISON. Just write to the College of Heraldry in London, England and ask them for the Letters Patent that shows that you are the owner of the improvable and alleged alodial title to the property surname MADISON and that will settle the matter.

    Unfortunately, the fact is that you will not be able to obtain the title of ownership to property that is not yours and could never be yours. This would be so simple if you could do the impossible and prove that something that is not yours is yours. Good luck with that. The secular surname is a blasphemy against God because it simply identifies those that deny God.

    —– Mladen
    ——- child52of 144@hotmail.com
    ———- https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianRemedyInLaw

     
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      February 4, 2014 at 4:25 PM

      Mladen – Blasphemy – really? – Shall we go back to the brighter days of Christianity, when government and people like you would hang and burn people at the stake for their disbelief, but in reality just wanting to steal their money and property. Thank God those days are gone, as now they just steal our money, because the can.

      I cannot support the God you embrace, my friend. Sorry. It is against my religion, to call another person, who does not believe as I, a blasphemer. A fool or just ignorant of the truth, is another story however. Organized Religion and government are scams Mladen. One’s psychological and the other is physical extortion. Read Thomas Paine’s book on both of these illustrious institutions. Their actually combined in one book now.

       
      • J.M.

        February 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM

        @ I cannot support the God you embrace, my friend……………….”. I, (Skip Robinson) cannot support the God you embrace, my friend……………”
        I,J.M. agree with Skip Robinson

         
      • J.M.

        February 16, 2014 at 7:44 PM

        @ >Shall we go back to the brighter days of Christianity,
        Skip, my dear friend. I say this, what follows, because I do care for you. Very much.There IS a true way of life that IS “True Christianity.” 99% of “so called” Christianity is FALSE. You & I Skip are open & honest with each other. THIS is a trait of TRUE Christianity. Those other atrocious so called Christian events were performed by evil people calling themselves Christians to discourage decent, upright, straight shooters like you are, Skip, to discourage people like you are, from wanting to be “labeled” as a Christian. Every time a “good group” starts up, Many counterfeits spring up to make the “good group” look bad. And anyone whose “heart” is in the right place does not want anything to do with “any” group who does bad things. If I am thinking today, what can I do today that would bring joy into Skip’s life & YOU Skip are thinking the same thing about me, WE are both WINNERS. If you are thinking about a way to bring happiness to me & I am thinking of a way I need to come up with to steal your, let’s say lawnmower, & sell it, because I need my heroine shot, well see what I’m trying to say Skip? We have very few givers, & many many takers. True Christianity is simply, an outgoing concern for one another. BUT it’s who comprises the, “one anothers.” It’s WHO they are that matters. People like you, Alfred Adask, &, I would like to think, me too, are vastly outnumbered, & I don’t think I would be too far off the mark by saying, a million of them, to just one (1) of us.

         
      • J.M.

        March 14, 2014 at 2:35 AM

        Skip, you say, to Mladen,

        @ >I cannot support the God you embrace, my friend. Sorry. It is against my religion,

        Why can’t you support the God I embrace Skip? I have tried to describe him to you. What description is it about “my God” that offends you? Other than as you, Skip, say, My “God” is an ego based maniac? You, Skip, say, your “God” says the only way to deal with people like me, is to ridicule people like me. Maybe this is why there are very few people like me, because they were ridiculed to death. I don’t like your God Skip. I do wish my God did not tell me to be merciful to those who persecute me & pray for those who despitefully use me. I ask my God, why do you put such HEAVY burdens on me, I’m not you. Give me whatever it is you have to be able to do this. But, see, IF he gave me this ability, I could very well misuse it. He KNOWS this. I think what he really means, is, at least try. I do TRY but in all honesty, it’s not a HARD try, more than likely, it’s lip service.

         
    • J.M.

      February 4, 2014 at 5:06 PM

      Mladen
      @ Just write to the College of Heraldry in London, England and ask them for the Letters Patent that shows that you are the owner of the improvable and alleged alodial title to the property surname MADISON and that will settle the matter.
      Is it alodial or allodial?
      OH NO !!! They might raise my rent.Remember Mladen, you said I was renting my secular criminal ID/name of Madison. I’m going to let well enough, excuse me, what is bad enough alone. I fear that if I do as you recommend, & with my luck, & as they at the Heraldry are researching, they might discover an oversight in that they somehow forgot to raise my rent on the secular criminal name of Madison or MADISON. Once again, between me & you, I do not not like the all caps but I do want to keep the secular criminal name in respect of my Dad, my Grand pappy,& on back. I care for them too. Indeed I do. HEY Mladen, MORE GOOD NEWS !!! Just think !!! Maybe “God” will give you the privilege of personally being the one to throw me into the lake of fire & brimstone !!! Wow.

       
      • Mladen

        February 4, 2014 at 6:04 PM

        Dear Jim,

        I do not know where you got the false belief that I judged you or that I condemned you since God is the only one that has the right to do that and I am not God, nor do I hold the ridiculous false belief or claim to being a “Sovereign without subjects.”

        You can one bonus brownie point for finding my spelling error as the correct spelling is “ALLODIAL.”

        You have the right to any and all of your personal false beliefs and do not let me get in the way of your lack of success.

        I do not comprehend your lack of logic. If you stopped renting something that is not yours then you would not have the concern or worry about the true owner of it raising the rent. How silly is that?

        Your lack of comprehension and insight and ego have you stubbornly holding on to something that is not yours. You add insult to your own injury by claiming to be “Proud” of the surname that does not belong to you or your pappy or grand-pappy or great-great-grand-pappy, etc. . Did you miss the scripture about pride before a fall?

        I am saddened by your continued blasphemy against God and your accusation or implication that God would give me or any of His creation to judge and condemn any of their fellow men to the “the lake of fire & brimstone” (your words, not mine). True Christians are to love their enemy according to God’s will. God so loved the deceived and confused world that He gave his only begotten Son, Christ Jesus, so that we would have a way out of the corrupt and evil secular world (see John 3:16 for the Will of God) and all we have to do is to accept His free graced pardon.

        God’s grace is completely opposite to man’s artificial world of legal. God’s pardon is an Act of God and an Act of Grace, it is free and it cannot be forced upon anyone because it must simply be accepted. No acceptance means no pardon.

        For a U.S. Supreme Court example of what happens when a Presidential pardon is not accepted you can go here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/32/150. And, for a one-page simple summary you can go here: http://godrunning.com/2012/04/06/george-wilson-refused-pardon/ .

        — Mladen
        —– child52of144@hotmail.dom
        ——- https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianRemedyInLaw

         
    • J.M.

      February 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM

      @ > You can one bonus brownie point for finding my spelling error as the correct spelling is “ALLODIAL.”

      I can?? Thanks. Do you mean I need to can it? If so, how can I can it? Do I need a trash can or a garbage can, or both? OR, some other kind of can? My Mother was a good canner of fruits & vegetables but she “canned” in Mason jars.

       
    • J.M.

      March 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM

      Mladen
      @ >Jim, can you please explain why you need a license and why you need to insure it if the surname or legal name were your property?

      Tell me how to explain why I do not have any licenses, at least that I am aware of. I do not really understand your question. Please direct me where to go to see ANYTHING I have said that says I need a license. I will presume you meant your question for someone else. Or, you are beginning to use foul blows by implying I said something I did not say.

       
  26. Mladen

    February 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    In a recent court case in Ontario, Canada during the summer of 2013 a confused, deceived and misguided man thought he had the upper hand over the secular court by quoting the Preamble to the Constitution of Canada that says that the secular world recognizes the Supremacy of God. Unfortunately, he did not understand that democracy is opposed to the Theocracy of God.

    This poor man misunderstood what is meant by the preamble to the constitution (make up) of the fiction known as the de facto secular nation of Canada, which merely recognizes the Supremacy of God, but does not follow it. Just because somebody recognizes anything does not mean that they follow it. Instead, the secular world has millions of its own man-made “Rules of law” for those that consent to be governed by unbeliever pagans in a pagan secular world of fiction, lies, fraud, evil, corruption, lack of morals, lack of conscience, lack of true Christian faith and denial of God and Christ Jesus.

    What defines the pagan nation of Canada for those that consent to be participating members as civilians or citizens of Canada? The unbeliever pagan secular courts consistently enforce their right to be unbelievers in a free and democratic society that is opposed to God. What is the problem with that? You are free to choose a fiction as your master. If you want to serve pagan secular Canada for a fee under the lie that it is free and democratic that is your legitimate free will choice. On the other hand, if you reject fiction, lies, fraud, corruption, lack of morals and lack of conscience, and if you choose God and Christ Jesus as your master, that is also your legitimate free will choice.

    The fictional nation of Canada has absolutely nothing to do with God. The secular people of secular Canada are quite grateful that in their alleged free and democratic society they have the right to believe in anything. That is not the case in the Kingdom of God because you must either accept or reject it all. There is no telling God how you interpret His Kingdom and His laws. That is so stupid because the created (man) cannot tell the Creator (God) how it is and how it’s going to be. Nice try, but no.

    The key point the confused secular man in secular court is still missing is the fact that he is using some secular “Thing”, which is property or title that does not belong to him. Canadians simply do not serve God. Canadians ignorantly serve another master called Satan the devil, the father of the lie, and they serve mammon (selfish private gain, profit). The other master, God, has nothing to do with money. But, in order to participate in the unbeliever pagan secular world you must consent to attach, use, say and claim an unnecessary addition surname. The surname has debt attached to it and the surname originated for outlawry, that is, to identify criminals. It’s all about which master you consent to serve.

    If you do not consent to serve Satan then you are free to withdraw your God-given inalienable Christian name from the free and democratic society of pagan nations such as Canada. Your Christian name is your one-and-only allodial property and it does not belong to the pagan secular world. Think about it. Christ Jesus gave us his Spirit to God on the stake at His crucifixion; and He gave the dead carnal body to Caesar. Similarly, we must give our Christian name to God, which is the intellectual property and Spirit of God, and leave behind the dead carnal body, which is the surname.

    What is a body without a spirit? It is a dead body when there is no spirit in it. And, that’s what the entire unbeliever secular world invented and owned and controlled from the beginning —- the dead body corporate (corpse, corpus). Take out your eternal living Spirit and pledge it to God and abandon the temporary temporal dead carnal body surname and God’s promise returns to you. Don’t try to be a double agent. You cannot serve both God and Satan. No choice is by default a choice to stay in Satan’s evil secular world of lies, fraud, corruption, immorality and unconscionable beliefs and behaviour.

    To repeat for the sake of being clear, the reason that a true Christian, using only their God-given inalienable Christian name, has the right to have their necessities provided by the staff of the secular government is that it is ordained (allowed) by God. Therefore, if you choose to serve God they must provide for God’s children because they work for God and they are only there as God’s temporary instrument to reward good and punish evil. God’s timetable allowed man to go down his prodigal son journey until the return of Christ Jesus. Changing sides and abandoning the secular world of unbelievers does not mean that you will starve to death or have no shelter or clothing because God simply knows what you need and God never reneges on His promise to provide for His children.

    For the unbelievers all I can say is “Never mind.” Unbelievers can just hit the delete key and peacefully move on with their false beliefs that misrepresent the facts in law. The Christian name is the good spell (gospel) that excuses you. The surname is the bad spell that accuses and abuses by your own consent.
    — Mladen
    —– child52of144@hotmail.dom
    ——- https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristianRemedyInLaw

     
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      February 5, 2014 at 9:45 AM

      Mladen
      I understand the differences between God’s and man’s law. Where I disagree with you is, first, that one group or the other has the total handle on God’s Law. Even within the so-called Christian community, there is a huge amount of diversity is the perceptions and translations of what the Bible says about many things, especially in relation to how we should govern ourselves. Some people view “Hale unto Caesar what is Caesars” as a responsibility to pay taxes and some believe the Jesus was using sarcasm as a means to appease the Romans. Just as, no one wants to come out and publically tell the IRS that they don’t pay taxes so I hear people in the tax honesty movement say, I pay all my lawfully required taxes, because they do not believe that the law exists. I’ve heard both arguments on the paying of taxes by Christians, and I believe those that support the sarcasm side are correct. If he would have come strait out and said he was apposed to taxation, he would most likely have been arrested as a tax protestor. Sadly we have socially embraced the Roman model of government, favoring might makes right, instead of protecting individual rights as some of our founding fathers tried to impose. I don’t want to argue the various issues of why democracy and democratic republics fail, but the reasons exist for those that wish to read and evaluate them. Just search why democracy fails and you can basically apply the same principals and rational to a democratic republic model.

      If God was so almighty and omnipotent, would he not provide us with a better instruction manual. At least update the thing every 1,000 years or so and properly translate it into the many languages spoken on the planet. Do you ever wonder why Moses took so long on the mountain. He has to find, carve and chisel two tablets for the ten commandments. The though of God creating the tablets and giving them to just one person, Moses, is a comical as saying the those at the Nicene Council, were righteous man and not under the thumb of the ruling oligarchy. Why do you think the Romans were trying to destroy all the written works of the various remaining tribes? Controlling the law through religion has always been the methods of tyrants. The Bible is a history and text book, period. Believing that all the authors, and only those authors chosen to be in the Bible, were somehow perfect in the understanding of how God want us to live, is irrational. It would require of me much stronger legs to leap that far in my faith in mankind’s deceitful and often times arrogant methods and beliefs. So called Christian religion and Government were still persecuting people just 250 years ago.

      I do not believe in the secular world either but believing that God has laid out a game plan for us, is falling for the various schemes and memes of the ruling oligarchy and you my friend have bought it hook line and sinker.

       
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM

        Skip, good afternoon,

        @ he would most likely have been arrested as a tax protestor
        No doubt about it, & arrested for walking on the water without a license, & wow!!! Just think what the A.T.F. boys & girls would have done re: the “wine” he made. Skip, why do these “boys & girls” in gov-co ask for ID stamp of approval documents? If I am caught red handed e.g. with a “violation of a traffic “law” e.g. tail light out, why am I asked for ID? No matter what we are “pulled over for” the FIRST thing asked is, I need to see your driver license,etc. WHY is this asked? AND, if we don’t have the “required” ID, that’s when all the lights go out.

        @ The Bible is a history and text book, period.
        Jetlag will agree with that statement. You have now, by that statement, opened the door for wrath comments from one or two others IF he/she is still “on line” Why does discussing the bible eventually turn into bitter, hateful,etc. exchanges? Good ol Wise palani, never gets into making ANY comment when it comes to this kind of “subject matter.”

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM

        J.M. Remember the movie Popeye. The parking under the dock tax?
        Many people believe the washing of the feet ceremony was part of the wedding custom back then and that he married Mary Magdalene. She was not supposed to have relations with the husband, Jesus, within the first year of marriage. She must of been really hot because Jesus couldn’t contain himself, did the deed and she became pregnant. Such a rebel. All the bloodline stuff is perhaps part fact and fiction.

        The Nicene Council obviously left that story out of the Bible.

         
      • J.M.

        February 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

        @Many people believe the washing of the feet ceremony was part of the wedding custom back then and that he married Mary Magdalene. She was not supposed to have relations with the husband, Jesus, within the first year of marriage. She must of been really hot because Jesus couldn’t contain himself, did the deed and she became pregnant. Such a rebel. All the bloodline stuff is perhaps part fact and fiction.
        The Nicene Council obviously left that story out of the Bible.

        No doubt about it
        Strange how we come into the knowledge of some advanced unknown knowledge that only the elite are aware of. I have also been told that Jesus Christ was really a HOMOSEXUAL & that it should be obvious if for no other reason, he had 12 MALES around him all the time, & where the scripture says that, Jesus wept, he was weeping because all his sex partners had gone into town to buy supplies & he was missing them & he was lonely without them, but I guess there was one exception to this FACT & TRUTH & that is when he, Jesus the Christ, was with Mary, criminal name of, Magdalene, doing their thing. So now, with this new revelation, Jesus The Christ was really a Bi-Sexual. Apparently,The Nicene Council obviously left that part of the story out of the Bible too.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 6, 2014 at 9:09 AM

        The government can’t even get the 9/11 story strait in a world with advanced communications and thousands of witnesses, how can you expect the “poor” Nicene Council to get God’s word strait about Jesus and Mary 2,000 years ago? An interesting read is Sir Lawrence Gardeners ” Blood Line of the Holly Grail – None fiction. He claimed to have been a genealogist for one of the royal families of Europe and found the information in the book in their family records. It makes much more sense than the Bible but like the Bible their are few supporting references.

        As an example, the water to wine story was really about Jesus at some celebration, allowing the servants and others in the lower class to have wine, which was not customary and considered a rebellious act to the upper class. They were only allowed to have water. Of course Jesus was literally the King of the Jews, kind of, and therefore had some clout. I say, kind of, because in reality, the Romans were now the ruling class, as the Jews had been concurred. Jesus had also pissed out his Jewish brothering in a number of ways. One, he had had sex with Mary during the celibacy period of the first year of their marriage against the custom’s of that time and he had pardoned individual who had tried to destroy one of the water aqueducts that the Romans had been working on. Jesus was striped of his priesthood, but was miraculously, “three” days later, given his priest hood back. “the Resurrection”. He was a very rebellious dude, as other Biblical stories note. Many conservative Jews believed his brother Joseph, should have been King, because of all his shenanigans. like with the money changers and tax collectors.

        It is much earlier for the oligarchs, just to get rid of him. Thankfully, they were able to get the Holly Grail (Mary Magdalene, now pregnant with the heir of the King} out of the territory and some believed first to France and than to England. The Jews used a lot of code back then to fool the Romans. The Messiah, was supposed to be the leader who rose up and lead the Jews back to freedom. Historical records indicate the a number of Messiah, just a Jesus, were put to death by the Romans. Of course that part of history will be withheld by the Romans. leaving us with the Bible and almost no records to support or deny the various accounts.

         
      • J.M.

        February 10, 2014 at 10:08 PM

        Skip,
        @ > J.M. Remember the movie Popeye. The parking under the dock tax?

        No. Do you,Skip, have access to a link that I can click on to bring it up? If so, please post it. Hey Skip, I asked a man back a few years ago if he had access to a link that I could click on to bring up that certain program. H e answered back in one word, >Yes < Hence, Skip this is why I am asking you what I asked the way I asked. The man was right in answering my question, by simply saying, Yes.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 11, 2014 at 10:52 AM

        J.M. – This is the closest one I can find on the Popeye quotes on taxation: under “Whose the first person Popeye meets: The taxman: http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Movies/Popeye-18533.html

         
      • J.M.

        February 11, 2014 at 4:59 PM

        Skip, I clicked on the “Popeye link” & a page appeared saying Web Page Blocked. This is a known dangerous site < or something like that, Anyway it was blocked. I guess I could have proceeded anyway but you would have to have seen what I did see to know why I did not proceed. Thanks anyway, at least I know we are still friends. This means a lot to me. Honest Injun.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 11, 2014 at 5:43 PM

        J.M – You one of the good dudes and hopefully we shall remain so for a long time.

         
      • J.M.

        February 16, 2014 at 8:06 PM

        Skip,
        @ If God was so almighty and omnipotent, would he not provide us with a better instruction manual.”
        Tell me just one way it can be improved upon, just as example,other than what you have shown

        Do you ever wonder why Moses took so long on the mountain. He has to find, carve and chisel two tablets for the ten commandments.

        Not so. They were “put there by the finger” of “God.” As far as the length of time spent on the Mountain, God had a valid reason & purpose for this, but it’s too long to explain it here. I could explain it in one minute if we were eyeball to eyeball. But here, it would take a long time, doing it like this. Let’s stay friends now. Just remember, I can “back up what I say. It’s just a matter of whether someone wants to believe or does not want to believe it.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 16, 2014 at 10:33 PM

        J.M. – I would like for God to show everyone which form of government is best. I would like God to show everyone with “scientific” evidence that their really are miracles. If Jesus was sent to heal and care for others using miracles, why not send more children or at least give us a good health book to follow. How about a manual about how to stop governments from killing their own Citizens. How about an instruction book that teaches people to fight against government corruption without being retaliated against.

         
  27. Jetlag

    February 4, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    @Mladen “In closing, Jetlag, and in keeping with your boat analogy, why are people stubbornly insisting on staying in a sinking boat?”

    Maritime history proves that people prefer even a sinking boat to a long swim for the nearest shore. When people discover their boat is taking on water, they generally stay on board and work through all other options – e.g. fix the leak – before accepting the grim prospects of a castaway.

    This is why pointing out the corruption in the current system is not enough to make people abandon it. For such a move, people require more than mere negativity about their present situation. They need a better, and practical, alternative.

    Mere negativity can, however, achieve the hungry sharks’ goal of demoralizing the people to stop them working to improve their situation, as the boat continues to sink.

     
    • J.M.

      February 5, 2014 at 1:38 AM

      Maybe taking a long run off a short dock will help.

       
    • Jetlag

      February 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

      …So whenever Harry Skip Robinson wants to respond to my earlier question about what a better system would be – as opposed to merely pointing out the problems of the current system – I’ll be glad to read it.

       
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM

        Jetlag – I did it is stuck in awaiting moderation – Here’s part of it.

        I have been working on an idea. I call it the “Voluntary Association of Jurists” – I want to get a group of people together that can make the appellate Judges look like the corrupt scumbags they are. Basically by writing “better” concurring or dissenting opinions we can show the world with collective collaboration that many people are better than a few deciding the rule of law for 325MM people I want to do it through a highly encrypted cloud website that initially allows those involved to be protected from retaliation. The idea is to show how the judiciary has abrogated the intent of the Constitution, through their various decisions like the We The People v the US when they abrogated the 1st Amendment, “the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances”, that went virtually unnoticed by the entire country or the Kelo v New London, where property rights were stomped on by our illustrious SCOTUS. I’m sure everyone has their favorite examples, as their are so many. Some other details on the system. http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/

         
  28. Harry Skip Robinson

    February 5, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Mladen, The courts are corrupt and only by changing this can we ever really be able to assert and defend our unalienable rights as Jefferson and others called them. To give some further knowledge of my thoughts and ideas, read this article. It’s by John Hasnas, Univ. of Wisconsin – http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/2011/12/29/the-myth-of-the-rule-of-law/

    I also believe the rule of law is a myth. It is in realty and always has been, the law by those who currently rule, each getting generation getting worse and worse as the country goes through its economic cycle, generally thought to be an average of about 250 years.

    I have been working on an idea. I call it the “Voluntary Association of Jurists” – I want to get a group of people together that can make the appellate Judges look like the corrupt scumbags the are. I want to do it through a highly encrypted cloud website that initially allows those involved to be protected from retaliation. The idea is to show how the judiciary has abrogated the intent of the Constitution, through their various decisions like the We The People v the US when they abrogated the 1st Amendment, “the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances”, that went virtually unnoticed by the entire country or the Kelo v New London, where property rights were stomped on by our illustrious SCOTUS. I’m sure everyone has their favorite examples, as their are so many. Some other details on the system. http://rsjexperiment.wordpress.com/home/

     
    • J.M.

      February 17, 2014 at 1:41 AM

      Think I’ve been barred. If this goes through I will try & answer your questions about Health, better Instruction manuals, etc. It never fails tho, once “God” is brought into the discussion. is where people say goodbye. I detected a little anger in your response. Nevertheless, I care for you as I said before & I hope to prove it if you will allow me too.

       
  29. J.M.

    February 17, 2014 at 2:01 AM

    HOORAY !!! I’m not barred !!!
    I tried to post a message to Mladen earlier. NONE of it went through, but I did see, posting comment. Next thing I know, the very beginning of this thread popped up, at the very top of the page. So I thought I was “cut off” because in scrolling back down, my message was not posted anywhere.

    Skip, I’m so tired. What you asked is critical, & Skip, PLEASE at least TRY & see that I’m trying to be of help because I DO want the BEST of everything for you. As you said tho, & it’s the sad truth there are some devious people in this world.My source of information WILL be from the Holy Bible. IT WILL be PLAIN. BUT, if you would rather not hear anymore, since I am saying to you up front, my source, just respond to this message/comment by saying you would rather not hear anymore.You won’t offend me if you do that. I’m going to try & get some rest. I will check in with you in the morning & see your response. Just say, tell me more, or I don’t want to hear anymore. I’ll understand.

     
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      February 17, 2014 at 8:40 AM

      J.M. I grew up in the Episcopalian Church, even being an acolyte; Dad a Presbyterian and Mom a Catholic so apparently they split the difference. I believe in the 80/20 rule. I let people talk 80% and I talk 20% of the time. It forces you to be a good listener. I’ve been to many different Christian churches, even a Mormon; that was interesting. I’ve heard everything from the chariots in the sky being aliens to angels just being a code word for messengers. One of the amazing things I seen is the plethora of different perceptions/interpretations of the Bible. Being in So. Florida, I also have gotten the Jewish perspective; boy are they full of good cheer and brotherly love. Hearing a 35 year old guy speak of Goym neighborhoods, in front of me, thinking I didn’t know what it meant or more importantly didn’t care is interesting. Just the way he said it was demeaning. I quit that job the very next day as my boss was his good friend.

      If your God is so almighty and caring, “mine is not”, then he/she would give us some “solid”/provable scientific evidence, that everyone would believe so that we could start working together to stop doing stupid things like building a nuclear power plant in an highly active earthquake zone. Your God appears to like to play life and death games with his so-called children. Allowing one tribe to use machetes to cut off the limbs of another tribe. Creating imperfect creatures and then seeing which ones rise and fall in the chaos to one day be on his side. Religion is never a debate that can be won, because it is based on belief and why I seldom choose to partake in such debates. I would rather do something constructive.

      We have the technologies available right now to lower retail energy costs by over 90%, and yet, we just went on line with the largest concentrated solar plant ever built. Why would we build really expensive solar systems in mass when there are at least two technologies that are literally ten times better? The only way solar can be economically implemented is if it is highly subsidized by taxpayers in some manner. The oil cartel loves solar, because of it’s extremely high costs, that is why they let one be built now and them to make it look like they are environmentally conscious. Not only that it keeps the erroneous message going that the redistribution of wealth can be used for good things; of course knowing that they are one of the prime beneficiaries of these scams.

      Organized religion is never going to make the world better. They’ve had thousands of years to do so already. You can keep waiting for the messiah to come again and other such nonsense or you can work on constructive things that “can” make a different.

       
      • J.M.

        February 17, 2014 at 3:33 PM

        @ >Your God appears to like to play life and death games with his so-called children

        No my dear friend. Not “my “God”. Your very statement tells me that you, Skip, are not “aware” of “my God.” My “God” says to respect & have outgoing concern for one another. So far, it seems to me that you & I have done this. If people don’t want to have respect & care for each other & instead decide to kill one another,steal from each other, etc. why does “my God” get the blame for it?

        If your God is so almighty and caring, “mine is not”, then he/she would give us some “solid”/provable scientific evidence, that everyone would believe so that we could start working together to stop doing stupid things like building a nuclear power plant in an highly active earthquake zone.

        “My God” has given us some “solid”/provable scientific evidence, that everyone would believe so that we could start working together to stop doing stupid things like building a nuclear power plant in an highly active earthquake zone. It’s just that 99 & 99/10ths of people don’t want to believe it.They don’t want to believe it because they don’t care. He/she is only concerned about himself or herself, like in survival of the fittest, like in everybody’s out to get me so it’s either me or them. Skip, I am trying to keep this short.

        Here is what I consider a good health “law” example, actually, a command from “my God.” “My God” created everything for a good purpose. The pig is a wonderfully made creation FOR its PURPOSE, the reason for this animal was for the purpose of being a cesspool cleaner, i.e. it was to roam freely & eat other animals that had died, for one example. The pig was created to absorb all the toxins & poisons of the filth it consumed without being injured, made sick,etc. “My God” who made this pig told the people not to even touch it because of the poisons & toxins in its body. It’s weird, I think, that the pig is the ONLY animal on earth that EVERY PART of it IS EATEN. The feet, the GUTS, I think they are called chitlins. brains, remember brains & eggs for breakfast? I am convinced that if “my God” made an animal OR ANYTHING & said, I have created this for your enjoyment, You can eat EVERY PART of it. Skip, I am convinced that people would not “touch” it with a 20 foot pole. As I said Skip, I care for you, let’s stay friends. BUT, in all sincerity & honesty, & based on what you have said, You, Skip are not aware of “my God.” Let’s stay friends, if so, there is at least a possibility that you just might get to know, “my God.” Knowing what I do, about you or, what I think I know, you will like,”my God.”

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 17, 2014 at 3:55 PM

        “No my dear friend. Not “my “God”. Your very statement tells me that you, Skip, are not “aware” of “my God.” My “God” says to respect & have outgoing concern for one another. So far, it seems to me that you & I have done this. If people don’t want to have respect & care for each other & instead decide to kill one another, steal from each other, etc. why does “my God” get the blame for it?

        Perhaps I am not ware of your God, but why did he make us such idiots, in his own image? lol – There are just so many things in the Bible that do not make sense to me. It took me almost 60 years to become comfortable with my ethos and intelligence. My God seems to work in that manner. He couldn’t have given me a bit more truth a few decades earlier?

        I think your a great guy J.M. and I hope our little jousts will not harm our friendship because I think you are one of the good souls on the planet. Just make sure you never sell your soul. It appears that once you’ve strengthened it, it doesn’t let you down as often.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 17, 2014 at 4:02 PM

        You buy the pig story. Many organisms eat decaying plants and animals and many are delicious. The key is to have pigs that are healthy and not full of parasites and such. Pigs will just about eat anything, just like a human being. Aged beef? yuck, I mean delicious. People eat birds nests made from their saliva and believe it will make them live longer.

        Have you ever done a parasite cleanse yourself?

         
      • J.M.

        February 23, 2014 at 7:04 PM

        Skip,
        @ Just make sure you never sell your soul. It appears that once you’ve strengthened it, it doesn’t let you down as often.

        It gets cold in Chicago. But only half as cold as most people I came across. Same everywhere, sad to say. Yes, I agree, if what we experience does not kill us, it will make us stronger. Just ain’t enough “us-es.” Tell me if this is what you mean by using less acronyms. Let’s use your statement above. Say, I respond this way, > Just make sure you never sell your soul. It appears…………..”

        What I am doing is including the entire two sentences, without showing every word. It’s is where I place the >….. ” < mark that makes the difference. I had a "higher up Judge" ask me about why my paperwork was like this. I KNEW he already knew what it meant but he was "testing me." I said, when it has a lot of dot marks & quotation marks at the end of the dots, it means I am only inserting the pertinent part of the entire sentence but including the entire sentence without showing the additional words to save ink & paper. He understood then, that somebody else did not do my homework for me. See, if somebody else prepared my paperwork for me, he could have "caught me" if I had told him, " Judge I don't know what that means.,e.g., ….. …….." In other words I am not taking anything out of context I am including the entire sentence without showing the entire sentence. BUT, Skip, is this what you mean by it is an acronym?

         
      • J.M.

        February 24, 2014 at 1:44 PM

        @ >Perhaps I am not ware of your God, but why did he make us such idiots, in his own image? lol

        Skip, I’m so glad you put lol after that statement otherwise it would have made me angry. the lol makes ALL the difference in the world in meaning, at least to me. IF the lol had not been inserted, I would have taken that statement to mean, a subtle,belittling way of saying God is an idiot. I don’t like anyone belittling you, Skip, & I don’t like anyone belittling my God. This upsets me. See how easy it is to say something that can mean something the opposite of what it is supposed to? When it comes to “idiot making” some of us should get an A +++ in that regard. I get lots of A +++ in that department. You & I BOTH know, some of us make idiots of ourselves. Here is another thing. We can see everyone else’s shortcomings, faults, etc. BUT, we can’t see our own. THIS is where people who care for one another can HELP one another, if WE CARE.. I said before, I thank you Skip for trying to help me & I MEANT it. PLEASE !!! when you see I said something I should not have, OR IN ANYWAY can help me, I want & ask for help in “this way.”

         
  30. J.M.

    February 17, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    @ ” ……………eat decaying plants and animals and many are delicious.”

    Well, If you want your “taste buds” to be your “guide” you certainly have the freedom of choice to do so. “My God” did not make robots. You betcha I “buy” the pig story because it is a true story. As a child I was sick a lot. My whole family was sick a lot. My dad forced me to eat the fat portions of meats including the hog meat It made me vomit & he beat me for vomiting. I remember crying & begging him to please don’t make me eat it. He said SHUT IT UP, EAT IT. He took me into the bedroom one time in the summer & started rolling down all the windows. I asked him why was he rolling down the windows. He said, so the neighbors don’t hear you screaming from me beating your G.D. ass. I found out later, he was not my real dad. But, I’m sure he was doing what “seemed right & good.” Teaching me to be obedient no ifs ands or buts. I tried to say earlier, what the original PURPOSE of a pig was created for. If man wants to domesticate it, we both know this has been done & I’m sure you will agree that “my God” allows it, then again, you may not agree because you & I Have a different God. I’m sure you will agree with that. “My God” allows man to “try” & thwart the purpose of everything he originally instituted & the ONLY time he will intervene is when what man is doing will “hinder” his overall purpose, like “Tower of Babel” story.< Another true story. Anyway, let's say good bye like we said hello in a friendly kind of way. Your response told me all I needed to know. but I sorta feel you don't know why. Have a happy life. I hope you have the best of everything. I say this sincerely. Shalom, dear one.

     
    • J.M.

      February 18, 2014 at 2:14 AM

      Skip, by the way, I still feel & think the same about you as I previously said. In all honesty, ‘something” told me that if you liked pork, it would really ruffle your feathers if I wrote what I did about pigs. Ham was my favorite meat once upon a time. Anyway, when I was informed by a metabolic physician that if I stopped eating pork, I would see a dramatic improvement in my health. He was right but it took about 30 days before I started feeling better. & I just got to feeling better & better as time went by. Why should I have a parasite cleanse if I am going to continue to eat things that bring on that problem? Pork is not the only thing unfit for food. Sewer rats,cats,dogs,mice are thought by some to be exquisite cuisine. Anyway, You are still a gentleman & have all the good qualities I mentioned, at least to me. The Holy Bible has health laws & also says what to do once a year to cleanse our bodies. With all the pollution in the ground & air today, it’s difficult to stay healthy regardless of what we do.Best to you & yours.

       
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 18, 2014 at 10:30 AM

        Those whom I have known that have cured their diseases, i.e. cancer, asthma, diabetes, etc. have often used various cleanses as “part” of the cure. Hulda Clark, The Cure For All Cancer was a big proponent. From the time we are born, various parasites, i.e. fungus, bacteria, various worms such as tape and flukes, attempt to invade our bodies. Some parasitologists suggest that 98% of all adults in America, have some level of parasites, usually not enough to perhaps cause any real harm, but as you age that risk increases. We have just in the last decade found out that ulcers are caused by bacteria. Hulda Clark, a Ph’D Biophysicist found flukes in high levels in the cancer tumors she biopsied, causing here to write the book as well as others on her many cases she attempted to cure.

        We deworm our horses, cows, pigs, dogs, cats, etc. but we, the allopathic medical community has found it unnecessary to deworm people as a preventative course of action. Hmmm.

        There are four cleanses I do. Liver, kidney, parasite and colon. Fasting is also good to detox environmental toxins and everyone should do at least a couple 5 to 7 day fasts a year. Both juice and water fasts are good. Debi and I did a 3 month long raw food diet that literally was the best thing that I’ve ever done. No meats, no booze or any cooked food.

        I like to say to people that you either have stuff in you that doesn’t belong there or you need stuff in you that isn’t there. I like to believe think that God made us perfect and that all disease is caused either by our environment or stored environment, as many refer to as genetics.

         
    • Harry Skip Robinson

      February 18, 2014 at 12:50 PM

      Oh by the way. I actually do believe pork to be one of the worse things humans can eat. I probably should have mentioned that before. A botanist friend of mine says it has something to do with frequency as well, being very similar to humans? Domestic pork is also 50% fat compared to it 10% wild counterpart. The thought of them eating almost anything that is alive or dead is amazing.

      Interesting is that humans by and large eat animals that are predominantly vegetarian. Fish is the exception. Gorillas, being the most similar to our digestive systems of all primates, is one of the most vegetarian of them all.

       
      • J.M.

        February 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM

        Skip, the first thing I did when I got up this morning was, I went to this thread in hopes I would see a response from you. I really had a sense of sadness in thinking I’ve lost another friend & so much so I felt like I had been hit with a sledgehammer in my stomach.I don’t want to express my emotions regarding how I was uplifted when I saw that you did respond, except to say it was joyful. Wow, you have brought up so many things that we think alike on & this is because we understand them alike. I am going to bring up my word pad & type in my response to your last two, at this type messages. Daniel Clark was the Metabolic Dr. I went to. He was located in Ormond Beach Fla. You may have heard of him. Anyway, See ya later. No response is expected to this message. IF in the future I say something that ruffles your feathers, just try to think I am concerned about you & I only say what I do in hopes to be helpful. Just think, J.M. is only trying to be helpful. BUT this is hard to depending on the degree of how much the feathers are ruffled. You may think I do not care for you by some things I may say in the future, but I do care. See ya later. oh. I can only type with one finger so it will take a while.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 18, 2014 at 3:01 PM

        J.M. Nothing you can say will ruffle my feathers. Obviously, you know I going to respond though, lol. It is always better to work on the similarities and slowly tackle the differences. I’m here to bring people together, not push them apart and If I do, they probably aren’t the ones you want in your group.

         
      • J.M.

        February 18, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        @ last two, at this type messages
        last two at this TIME messages, I meant to say.

         
      • J.M.

        February 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM

        Skip,
        @ >It is always better to work on the similarities and slowly tackle the differences.

        If I believe anything that is different from how & what you believe, let’s not “tackle” those things at all IF they are “Bible understanding differences.” I would rather say, Skip, I love you dear Brother but please don’t be angry with me for understanding it differently. We are not robots. It seems to me,Skip, that if we really care FOR EACH OTHER, we will get along just fine & dandy. When I say, love, I mean it in the sense of how I love, or I should say, loved, as they have “passed on” My family. I consider you, Skip, my Brother & I love you in that sense, like you love your children. I DO NOT want to try & CONVERT you to accept my “spiritual beliefs.” Let’s just be friends & I do not use that word friend, lightly. I do try HARD to be one of the “good guys.”

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 20, 2014 at 12:25 PM

        J.M. My very bet friend and the best man at his wedding, Jeff Pollard is a Christian who thinks the planet is +/- 6,000 years old. I don’t hold that against him as he at least has a “rational” explanation. He believes before the great flood the earth had a much greater oxygen content because the earth was sort of like a terrarium in that it had a very cold outer layer, perhaps even an ice shield around it. The earth appears to have been hit by asteroids or ice comets, breaking the outer layer and causing the flood and masses kill off of plants and animals. He believes that man and dinosaurs may have lived at the same time.

        Interesting enough a recent find of a fossilized mastodon bone here in central Florida, shown on the TV show America Unearthed showing an etching of a mastodon and a man on it. They estimated it at 20,000 to 25,000 years old. That begs the question, how did a prehistoric man even no what a mastodon looked like unless he had actually seen one as the mastodon surely did not draw the picture of the man next to it. The host is an archeologist and believes the rock and carving to be real.

        We know, from various scientific studies and prominent sources that carbon dating has extreme flaws and if earth’s environment was that much different, it would have effected all chemistry as well that could drastically alter our understanding of dating various materials.

        I think that the world was inhabited by a much superior intellect over 6,000 years ago as the world is full of unexplained wonders older than that. I believe that the Bible is primarily a text book, inspired by all sorts of people with different motives and that much of it is true, based on the knowledge of that time, obviously after the great flood that destroyed most of the cultures on the planet. I also believe that some of it was embellished to support those that may not have had such grand motives. It is interesting that their are numerous cultures that tell the story of the great flood, and most tell it differently, some predating the Bible.

        The hard part is determined which is which and sadly because of all the lost records destroyed by various fascist empires over the years, it makes it even more difficult.

        Have a great day my friend.

         
      • J.M.

        February 20, 2014 at 5:17 PM

        Skip, Shucks !!, I lost my word pad message to you. ANYWAY,
        @ > J.M. My very best friend and the best man at his wedding, Jeff Pollard is a Christian who thinks the planet is +/- 6,000 years old.

        It can be easily proven scientifically that this not true.BUT, as best as I am able to determine, We only have 6,000 + years of recorded history. Believe it or not, I know what is missing.IF you watch & HEAR the video of the “space genius” De grasse, on this blog, I have a mental block now, as to the thread, anyway, he talks about a “long standing problem” that they have no explanation for. Skip, this long standing problem is REAL. AND, this “something” that DOES exist, has revealed to me, among MANY other things, why there are disagreements about the length of time the earth has been here. IF you get time, watch & LISTEN to that video. I am not using caps to be rude. It’s for emphasis purposes only. ANYWAY, you will like that video, IF for no other reason, the man IS a genius. Watch & listen, & we will go from there. Please do ME a favor & tell me what YOU, Skip think about what he, Degrasse, has to say. I’ll find the thread < is that the right word? I have asked this repeatedly to other posters & can get no answer. Be right back. I"M GLAD WE ARE FRIENDS !!!!

         
      • J.M.

        February 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM

        Skip, It’s The Longest Standing Problem in Astro Physics thread< if this is the correct term.

         
      • J.M.

        February 21, 2014 at 12:27 AM

        Skip, in case I was not clear, the earth has been here maybe millions of years. I used to know, years ago, because it was proven some way, I forget how, now, that the earth did not exist at one time, & as close as I can recall, this scientific evidence showed WHEN the earth came into existence. I do not buy the reason given as to HOW, BUT I do buy the time element. ANYWAY, STILL, we only have 6000 + years of “recorded” history. Here is a little hint. The Bible mentions Adam & Eve. One of the “commands” given to them was, Be fruitful & multiply & REPLENISH < repopulate the earth, SAY WHAT??? Repopulate the earth?? Yes, Skip, I buy this "story too." I have OTHER reasons for buying this story & FROM the Bible as to why I believe it. Let's stay friends now.

         
      • Harry Skip Robinson

        February 21, 2014 at 8:25 AM

        Hey J.M. The guy who invented carbon dating even believes his system is highly flawed. Scientists throw out numbers as if they are fact when they are really highly debatable. I don’t really believe the earth is really only 6,000 years old nor even 25,000. I actually have no clue and I don’t really know if I care that much. It’s interesting to hear these people talk bout the different periods in earths history but from my research, there just taking someone else’s theory and continuing the potential truth or error. If you research the predominant two types of dating systems, it is a science in of it’s self.

        I believe it is very difficult to establish how quickly the earth really developed and as you know, how it came to exist takes that good old “Leap of Faith”. Scientist their full of crap some times, it is always interesting to get their reaction. Don’t you know, science is never wrong. The big bang theory is really a fact and not a theory. Science has surely come a long way but it has a much longer way still to go.

        Would love to have the specific scripture to show Jeff.

         
      • J.M.

        February 22, 2014 at 5:15 PM

        Skip, are you still out there?

        Maybe we have 2 different Bibles. There is, e.g., a Book/Bible of Mormon, & other Bibles. Now, e.g.,, IF we both were born into a Mormon family, the chances are good that we would believe what Mormons believe. BUT, IF, the “God” I know of, “called” YOU, Skip, to understand things his way, then IF this “God” did not “call” me to understand, You & I would be disagreeing about a lot of things. Some people have been “called” to know about “my” “God’s” way of understanding & SOME have been “called” to proclaim that understanding. I, J.M. HAVE NOT BEEN “CALLED” to deliver, etc. this understanding VIA saying I am a Pastor, Preacher, Minister, etc I’m only sharing my understanding with, HOPEFULLY, a brother or sister, here & there. Let’s stay friends.

        Skip, to your knowledge, is a microwave oven, “safe” for heating, say, coffee? I don’t know. I am a coffeeholic, & this is not good, but I am & I do use a microwave oven to heat coffee, my “Banquet frozen “dinners” etc. <he-he.

        OH, About this Pork problem. Domesticating this animal does not take away the things inside this animal to "eliminate" the "intake" of the filth, etc. this animal was made for, the purpose of, a "cesspool" cleaner. To roam & filter out the unclean decaying things that are poison, etc. These "things" inside this animal to protect this animal from "kickbacks" is what WE eat IF we eat this animal. Help me out here on my microwave question. Shalom

         
      • hskiprob

        February 23, 2014 at 8:45 AM

        “Skip, to your knowledge, is a microwave oven, “safe” for heating, say, coffee? I don’t know. I am a coffeeholic, & this is not good, but I am & I do use a microwave oven to heat coffee, my “Banquet frozen “dinners” etc. <he-he."

        No. I've read that they do something to the food that ordinary heating doesn't do. I would like to see a scientific study though because I really cant remember if I've really read anything totally convincing on the subject. Don't tell me that there is a Bible scripture that covers this. Thou shalt not use microwave ovens. lol

        Debi and I heat up everything in a wave oven by Sharper Image that uses a combination of halogen, convection, and infrared heating without the use of adding fats or oils.

        It is the best darn little contraption I've ever used for cooking. It can cook a whole chicken is half the time using half the electricity and only costs about $200.00 You can actually get away from having to use standard ovens most of the time.

         
      • J.M.

        February 24, 2014 at 3:34 AM

        @ >The real question is, do I believe the source of the data and I have generally found mankind to be untrustworthy in many circumstances. I therefore must rely on my knowledge, experience, inspirations, dreams, wisdom and my faith in God.

        Same here in everything you say. We both understand this EXACTLY alike. One exception, for me. I think I am totally void of “wisdom.”

         
      • hskiprob

        February 24, 2014 at 6:48 PM

        J.M. everyone has wisdom, it just is at different levels and yours is high for such a young guy.

         
      • J.M.

        February 24, 2014 at 3:48 AM

        When I say, void of wisdom, as to me, I mean, completely empty. I remember what you, Skip, said about your 7x Great Grandfather & I said, You, Skip, have inherited his wisdom. Remember??

        @ > My 7x Great Grandfather, Captain Samuel Robinson, the father of Vermont, used to segregate the different religious sects into different areas as he sold off land to them. Some called him a bigot, others called him a wise man.

        Yes indeed, a very wise man, I. J. M, believe.

         
  31. J.M.

    February 22, 2014 at 3:11 AM

    Skip,
    @ > Would love to have the specific scripture to show Jeff.

    The specific scripture to show Jeff, as to what? If you mean as to the command, well, that’s what I call it, to Adam & Eve to “replenish” & it’s the RE, in plenish, that I mean. See Genesis:>1:26

    And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in His Own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. < IF this is what you,Skip, are asking for, I am somewhat puzzled that your friend Jeff, is not aware of this. IT is the in FIRST Book of the Bible in the FIRST chapter. One thing that disappoints me, with "Christian" people is, they say "God" as tho "God" is a single entity. They don't even think about the "OUR" & "US" as showing above. I may be banned thanks to a Martens, aka Jetlag < of the SAME MINDSET, at least, so let's see IF this posts.

     
    • J.M.

      February 22, 2014 at 9:42 PM

      Skip,

      I promise to give you a break, after this message.

      For far too long, good and honest people, < in my opinion, have been content with a "surface reading" of Scripture for their beliefs, when all along, for one thing, discovering the truth requires a deeper study into the original Hebrew or Greek words. Most jewels, diamonds,etc, are not found on the "surface." This is also taking into consideration the "Bible" that I use. There are many different "denominations" of Christians ( I have explained my understanding of the Holy Bible to many “Preachers.” Guess what? ALL of them, in essence, said, ” I understand what you’re saying, Jim, BUT, if I start preaching about things like that, I will eventually lose all my followers.” < SEE, Skip? They are saying I will lose all of MY followers, MY followers MY followers MY followers. I will lose MY followers. Skip, I don't want to FOLLOW preachers who PREACH about Jesus Christ, I want to be a follower of Pastors, preachers, etc who PROCLAIM what Jesus Christ talked about, what he SAID, & TAUGHT. Most Preachers talk ABOUT Jesus Christ but not much about what Jesus Christ had to SAY. I want to hear Pastors talk about what Jesus Christ talked about & what needs to be done about it or what needs to be understood about "it". See what I'm trying to say? Let's stay friends. OHhhh by the way, & this may seem like I am double minded if it is not understood the way I mean it. I admire a man who SAYS he is an ATHIEST. WHY? BECAUSE this man whether he knows it or not, apparently he does not, BUT he has TRUE CHRISTIAN TRAITS. He is a straight shooter. He is honest, He is STRONG. To me, he has so many good qualities I can't describe them. I ADMIRE the MAN who says he is an ATHIEST, Jessie Ventura. WOW !!! I wish I could have him for a friend. < I am saying this based on my understanding. Heck, I may not be understanding anything right. But I have to hold on to something even tho most people tell me I am holding on to nothing. It's a mental war, & it is wearing me out. I have to be honest about that too.

       
      • hskiprob

        February 24, 2014 at 12:02 AM

        J.M. – As you know I believe that any religious belief system requires just that, belief. Either you believe in a superior entity/creator or you do not. I subscribe however that since it is a belief system, therefore it is predicated on something that is not provable. If it were provable, it would not require belief, it would be fact as a tree is a tree or a goat is a goat. If it were fact, there would not be the debate. There would not be atheists and theists because everyone would know it as fact. People, generally are unwilling to acknowledge this, because it weakens their position of what is wrong and right. If a Rabi were to say to his followers, well, yes we are Gods chosen ones but we don’t really have 100% proof that this is true, what would his followers say? If Mohamed would have said, yes follow me, “but” I’m basing this on my inspirational beliefs, visions and/or dreams as did Joseph Smith, etc. what would their followers say?

        I ask questions because it forces people to answer those thing they do not wish to answer. A believer who is 100% sure that they are God’s chosen one, to me, is no more correct than an atheist that is 100% sure there is no God and therefore there are no chosen people of God. We want to know the truth, and people are willing to even fight and die for their beliefs, but sadly they are often wrong. People not long ago, thought that they should sacrifice virgins, if they could actually find one, to the Gods, to gain their favor and 500 years later, we wonder why their cultures are gone.

        Religion is a surely a belief system and thus, there are no absolutes. Is the Bible correct about pork; perhaps. Was this information divinable or was it based on experiential and imperial data. Based on some of the artifacts of the ancients, it would be difficult to say that it was not the later. Someday perhaps we will know the perfect diet. People have been eating pork and birds nests for thousands of years, because they were able to survive another day on it. What doesn’t kill you perhaps gives you strength. Some people believe that any meat is an inferior food, as compared to other substances and studies have shown that vegan communities live longer than omnivore communities. The real question is, do I believe the source of the data and I have generally found mankind to be untrustworthy in many circumstances. I therefore must rely on my knowledge, experience, inspirations, dreams, wisdom and my faith in God.

         
    • hskiprob

      February 23, 2014 at 8:55 AM

      J.M. “And God said, Let Us make man in Our image”
      Interesting that God said the term “Us”. He must have had a frog in his pocket. lol – I think I’m starting to buy the alien theorist supposition more and more.

      I have a good sense of humor this morning, don’t I. Just got another short sale ready to close. Yea. I can use my wave oven for another couple of months, before I can close the next deal. Real Estate is tough in these times down here.

       
      • J.M.

        February 23, 2014 at 1:58 PM

        @ I have a good sense of humor this morning, don’t I.
        Yes.Thanks. refreshing to wake up to anything that makes me laugh or smile.

        @ I think I’m starting to buy the alien theorist supposition more and more. ”

        Don’t know for sure what you may mean, but, “Space Aliens” do exist. It’s one more of those “superior intelligences” that are able to appear & vanish right before our eyes.Have had first hand experience & I do not take drugs. If you knew a few airline pilots whom you also knew had integrity, you would at least give it second thoughts. Our problem, or one of them is, things have to fit into the “5 + – senses we have, or we discard it as being nonsense. I f it don’t fit, we aquit,or say what a crock of more B.S.

        Thanks for responding, Skip. Will close by leaving a few “quotes” from people I admire. I am CONVINCED you will like at least one. As far as churches go, I have said before, that I am a misfit in everyone I am aware of. I think it applies to this one too. Have said before, there is nothing wrong with the world, it’s just some of the people in it & those kind of people do make things wrong with the world. They are poisoning the earth. Same here on this blog. Nothing wrong with this blog, it just some of the “animals” on it. TWO animals I know of. It’s kinda funny that some self professed animals want to discuss their superior knowledge & understanding of Bi-Polar brain surgery when all they really know is a little something about prostate problems.

        John Adams > Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide., AND,
        The right of a nation to kill a tyrant in case of necessity can no more be doubted than to hang a robber, or kill a flea. AND,
        I understand John Adams also said to a lady, I must not write a word to you about politics, because you are a woman.

        Thomas Jefferson, > “I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.” AND, > But friendship is precious, not only in the shade, but in the sunshine of life, and thanks to a benevolent arrangement the greater part of life is sunshine.

        George Washington,? I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man. < Amen I'm trying to be this way too.

         
      • J.M.

        February 23, 2014 at 2:55 PM

        Skip,
        @ > Don’t tell me that there is a Bible scripture that covers this. Thou shalt not use microwave ovens. lol < You my buddy.

        Well look-E here. I think there is. Daniel 12th Chapter. This 12th chapter explains some things to Daniel but Daniel said, he did not understand what was being said, e.g.,

        But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the "time of the end": many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

        And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the "end of these things?"

        And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the "time of the end."

        Skip, It was not that long ago we were in the "horse & buggy days." Look at what has transpired. Has there been an increase in knowledge? There has to be an increase in knowledge for there to be an increase in technology, e.g, microwave ovens, < he-he, NASA, etc. supersonic jets, etc.

        many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. < This should speak for itself

        till the time of the end. < See what John F. Kennedy said to the U.N. assembly back in 1961.

        "Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind."
        "Today," he said, "every inhabitant of this planet must contemplate the day when this
        planet may no longer be habitable…. The mere existence of modern weapons
        10 MILLION TIMES more powerful than any that the world has ever seen, and only minutes away from any target on earth is a source of horror. Together," said President Kennedy grimly, "we shall save our planet or together we shall perish in its flames"

        Of course Skip, we must remember that John Kennedy was a wild eyed nincompoop, RIGHT ?? of course

        NOW see, Matthew 24:21,22

        For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

        And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

        Skip, I cannot recall there ever being a time where ALL people on earth could perish fairly quickly. Nuclear war, as Einstein said could destroy the earth & every blade of grass on it 50 times over. He said, once is enough.

        Daniel, 12th Chapter ALSO has a little something to say about "an END TIME."
        Shalom, Skip, lets stay friends, now.

         
      • J.M.

        February 23, 2014 at 4:27 PM

        @ Interesting that God said the term “Us” He must have had a frog in his pocket. lol –

        Well, no, not at that “time.” THEY” the “Elohim” (< God) had not created frogs "at that time." I don't think. I stand to be corrected about this. BUT, I do think that KNOWING when these frogs came to be , IS CRITICAL. lol This is one thing we need to research first & foremost.lol

         
      • J.M.

        February 24, 2014 at 3:22 AM

        @ I ask questions because it forces people to answer those thing they do not wish to answer.

        I wish I had the ability to know how to do that. I do have the ability to ask questions, but I do not have the ability to know how to ask & get an answer. Sometimes, questions themselves say a lot tho, right? I’ll answer ANY question even if my answer is, I don’t know. Some people can’t seem to admit this. Arrogant, haughty, goaders, provokers. Like you say, Skip, devious people. Devious??
        DEMENTED is a better word, BUT, there are diamonds, & there counterfeit diamonds. Hard to tell the difference

        @”……… “but” I’m basing this on my inspirational beliefs, visions and/or dreams as did Joseph Smith, etc. what would their followers say?

        No doubt in my mind they would say you are wrong. They have told me I’m wrong. But 99% of all others say I’m wrong. I don’t know why they have to tell me I’m wrong with such hatred in their voice. Then again, I’m no different except this being the difference. When Mladen started provoking you, or trying to trip you up, things like this DO provoke me into anger. But, Skip, it’s like you said, we believe what we understand. We, as people, understand the same subject matter in different ways. Heck, I didn’t need to say that. There are so many things about my King & my God that are beyond words to describe. I’m so grateful that the IQ level is not one of the necessities to have his affection. Skip, I have seen miracles performed by my King & my God. MEDICAL & otherwise & to the extent that ALL the M.D.s were baffled & all any of them could
        say was, Things like this do occasionally happen. It’s extremely rare & we have no explanation for it.However, extremely rare things like this are really not worth researching into because of the extreme rarity. Now, Skip, I’m either telling you the truth or I’m lying to you. I f you think I’m lying, you should not keep in touch with me. One more thing about my King & my God is, He considers a lie to be a !st degree felony carrying the death penalty with absolutely no exceptions. I don’t believe a lie once in a while is ok. I a million people thought otherwise, AND, they do, hence, PART of the reason we are where we are.
        Skip, If you come up with an idea, & you bring it into reality, and, with blood sweat & tears involved, I would think you know more than I or anyone else would know about your original idea that you brought into reality. Some people get things done because they are not smart enough to know it can’t be done. Once again, Thomas Jefferson, > “I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.” AND, > But friendship is precious, not only in the shade, but in the sunshine of life, and thanks to a benevolent arrangement the greater part of life is sunshine.

         
      • hskiprob

        February 24, 2014 at 7:06 PM

        J.M. I can tell that you are intellectually honest. As you know our perceptions are not always correct and just because your believe your perception, even though you may be incorrect, you are not necessarily being dishonest about it. It your eyes and brain, you truly believe what ever you believe. Many studies have been done on this and the results are fascinating to me at just how wrong we can be about something we perceive to be true. I find it better not to come to a conclusion, unless you truly believe you have enough facts to be 100% sure. The problem is the number of facts are not always available and thus, if a decision is required, the decision may end up not being a good one. I think that for many people, the number one mistake they make, is making difficult decision, without having enough facts, when they do not have to make the decision yet. To me agnosticism is one of the most honest positions for this reason, especially when one is young. Is God really forcing us to make a decision at any point in our lives, I don’t thing so. At one time, I actually felt most comfortable intellectually and ethically with that position.

         
      • J.M.

        March 14, 2014 at 1:44 AM

        Harry (Skip) Robinson, says,

        “And God said, Let Us make man in Our image”
        Interesting that God said the term “Us”. He must have had a frog in his pocket. lol

        It tells me that there are at least two beings that are called “God.” Also there was a time when Emanuel aka Jesus said, Father, renew the glory I HAD with YOU before the world WAS. This is simple for me to understand. The world, aka earth did not exist until it was created & Emanuel knew he existed along WITH someone he, Emanuel, called, Father. BUT if it don’t fit, we know what we can do about it, just discard it. It’s easy to do. This is also why we have so many different denominations. The hardest things for some others to “buy” are the easiest thing for me to buy & once again, it’s probably because I’m not smart enough to know how to figure out that it ain’t so. Some of us want to make the Elohim fit into our perception. We will say who the Elohim are or is. know what I mean?

         
      • hskiprob

        March 14, 2014 at 2:38 AM

        J.M. The world is full of deceivers attempting to live off the efforts of others. Our entire Congress is full of them, as are the many churches and their leaders of today. It is only a fool that does not accept this once it is shown to them to be true. As Frederic Bastiat said “Government is the great fiction through which everyone endeavors to live at the expense of others”.

        And sadly, as Thomas Paine made sense of, the various theocracies throughout history have been no grander and have also been proven to to be a great fiction.

         
      • J.M.

        March 14, 2014 at 2:03 AM

        Skip, you say,

        @ >J.M. everyone has wisdom, it just is at different levels and yours is high for such a young guy.

        Well thanks. It’s uplifting to be called a young guy. I hope I am a babe. So, how about that, I am a young un. Wow. I like that. Thanks again. for thinking I am a young guy. So was Timothy. You don’t know who Timothy is. I do.

         
  32. J.M.

    February 22, 2014 at 3:36 AM

    Skip,
    @ >I believe it is very difficult to establish how quickly the earth really developed

    Let’s stay friends now, but I don’t think it’s important to know or understand “how quickly” or “how slowly” it took for the earth to develop. IT’S HERE, I do know that. It really is Skip. < he-he

    Ok, now here is what I think. I think & believe that the earth has been here thousands of years longer than we have a history of records. I do not believe in evolution, apes into cave men etc. Let's stay friends now. You my buddy. Yes, you talk about devious people. TELL ME ABOUT IT!!! Skip, if you told me that you did not trust me, you know what I would say? I understand my friend, I understand. My problem or ONE of them is,I want to trust & TRY to trust EVERYBODY. I can't help it. But I'll tell you what, when MY feathers get ruffled, I become sorta like a rabid animal myself. I HATE arrogant, pompous, etc. people. They have a STRONG way of making me into having an animalistic (self injurious) trait, for a while.

     
    • J.M.

      February 22, 2014 at 6:01 PM

      Thanks Alfred Adask for not banning me, at least yet, anyway. I do make a lot of mistakes when it comes to using computer terms, as well as misspelled words, punctuation, etc. NOW I see that I should have said, on the, at this time, newest Radio thread, I should have said, I don’t want to be on “this thread” anymore instead of saying, I don’t want to be on this “blog” anymore. Thanks for your depth of perception & giving me at least the benefit of the doubt, if there was any doubt.

      I think it is rather insulting, to say the least, that two people <?? call themselves "bible students" & address you as "Professor" & then, well let me put it this way. I see THEM saying, Hey Professor, you don't seem to understand what we as Bible students understand. We are only Bible students & KNOW & UNDERSTAND more than you, Professor. Martens aka Jetlag,< SAME MINDSET are also saying,The reason Professor, for you not understanding even the "BASICS" is because the god of this world has blinded you from understanding this GLORIOUS TRUTH that we as bible students are aware of & understand. We Bible students KNOW that we are ANIMALS. When, IF EVER, are you Professor ever going to come to SEE this GLORIOUS TRUTH.

      Well I, could say MUCH more. But this I, Jim Madison,aka J.M. KNOW, "All things work out for the good, betterment,etc. for those who "love" the "Good LORD." I have some animals. they are my friends, & they let me know it too. BUT I don't think they love the "Good Lord." How can they? They don't know about such a being, at least, I don't think they do, not in the way we do anyway. Maybe I'm wrong about this.

       
  33. hskiprob

    February 24, 2014 at 6:50 PM

    Some animals I believe are equally as wise as some human beings.

     
    • J.M.

      February 24, 2014 at 11:17 PM

      Skip,

      @ Is God really forcing us to make a decision at any point in our lives, I don’t thing so. At one time, I actually felt most comfortable intellectually and ethically with that position.

      The God I am aware of, that I want to obey, does not FORCE anyone to do anything. I want to obey the “God” I am aware of because I am aware of the joy, etc. it brings, which may be selfish of me but I tend to think it is smart, at least to some degree. I tried to explain earlier that I admire a self professed atheist & tried to briefly explain why. It would be a wonderful privilege IF I could be ANY sort of a SERVANT for him & you too, Skip. Skip, I like good people. Now look-e here. I don’t mean for this to be a “foul” blow, but YOU, Skip, are a “rare bird.” I sure don’t mean you are any
      kind of fowl tho. Since you say I am honest, & I try to be, you have to admit that my God can’t be all bad. I’m trying to obey his command to be honest. IF IF IF you SEE any good traits in me, they are traits of my God teaching me. BUT, remember, I’m only in the first grade of his school. I have a LOT to learn. I see you are commenting on the newest thread at this time. I read all comments. That newest thread subject matter is out of my ball park. I think you & Alfred are going to get along just fine. You both have a lot in common, which is uncommon. I might just be moving down to Florida. DON”T PANIC !!! But, it’s always, the best laid plans problem. LOOK, I don’t care what your religious beliefs are. I like you for the many reasons I have already mentioned. Let’s not discuss religion anymore.It doesn’t matter to me if you are an atheist or agnostic. I like you because you are fantastic.

       
      • hskiprob

        February 25, 2014 at 9:02 AM

        Thanks J.M. I think your honestly may not necessarily stem from your wanting to just please God but from intelligence as well. Honesty is a choice we make as we mature and see the effects that dishonesty has on others and ourselves. There are many that believe honesty is a fools errant, yet still demand honesty from others so they have an advantage. They see competition as “against” their fellow man instead of along side them. There is generally plenty of competition yet people will do all the deceitful things necessary to benefit themselves, even if it is not in the best interest of the clients or consumers. Look at how many fraudulent loans were originated during the real estate boom and bust cycle. I call them fraudulent because all along the line, people knew that 25% of the mortgages being originated were going to become delinquent. Between the lax underwriting guidelines and the flat out fraudulent applications, those involves from the lowest mortgage broker, to the insurance companies (AIG) executives, the rating agencies (Moodys), all the bank loan officers, all the bank owned mortgage companies, the major banks such as JP Morgan, BoA, BankofNYMellon, Goldman, investment bankers at Lehman Brothers and other firms) were all complicit. It is my opinion that this was a premeditated and pre-orchestrated pump and dump by the central bankers. As early as 2002, I was aware, that what was going on, was going to end very badly. The banksters had done a very similar thing in the late 70’s and early 80’s, and I surely wasn’t the only one who knew what was going on.

        The point is thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people up and down the line, were willing to go alone with the dishonesty, some profiting huge amounts of money. As I like to say, there isn’t enough room for all the people that should be in jail for all the fraud committed during that period. Of course in the long run, the lower socio-economic levels of society are harmed the most. They will prosecute a few of the worst examples, as scapegoats, as a show so that those at the highest levels are not prosecuted.

        As a mortgage broker, I found myself during that period, wondering why I was not keeping up with the number of loans others were originating. Go figure, they were cheating. The last loan I originated was in 2003 and instead started focusing just on appraising.

        Today, I’m must better off for choosing honesty as it was an intelligent thing to do.

         
  34. J.M.

    February 24, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Skip,
    There ARE some things you are sure about. Death & taxes, for sure. I.m sure you are sure about that. lol
    Mladen was and IS 100% correct when he told me that I had a lotta lurnnun to do. Enuff said.

    @ Some animals I believe are equally as wise as some human beings.

    This depends on what your definition of are, IS. lol

     
  35. hskiprob

    February 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    I’m not sure about the taxes, only death. lol.

     
    • J.M.

      February 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM

      Skip,
      @ > Today, I’m must better off for choosing honesty as it was an intelligent thing to do.

      And it don’t take no Einstein to figger that out. AND, I’m glad of this

      What are thoughts? Thoughts ARE real, right? We “see” thoughts, & can make them into realities that others can “see.” There is no doubt at all in my mind that “some” thoughts “flow” from one of two sources OTHER than ANYTHING within you or me. We are the receivers. Your entire message overall, per the dishonesty, fraud, etc., is because of the “source” putting these thoughts into the hearts & minds of people that tend to lean towards trickery, etc. This “source” is “intelligent” beyond comprehension. BUT, I KNOW this. “This” intelligent source IS self destructive so we could also say this source is really not very intelligent after all. It’s the END result that matters in ALL things. Skip, I hope I am not asking this amiss, but if you happen to be on a thread (<?) & see someone belittling Alfred, & since you, Skip, have the wisdom to know how to "handle" this in a thought provoking way, I personally will be grateful to you for letting Alfred know he is not alone. He has a FULL plate as it already stands. No additional problems are needed. Maybe I am an additional problem. Help me out here.

       
      • J.M.

        February 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        P.S. I do not mean to say or imply that we do not have our own thoughts & ideas. We most certainly do. What I’m trying to say is, IF we have an open mind, we can sometimes have it open “too much” & open to a wrong source who plants seed of destruction into our “open mind” BUT the “seeds” SEEM to be, to us, “good ideas” “good thoughts.” We find out later by following up on these seemingly good thoughts that the end result turns out to be anything but good. I can only speak from my own experiences. SO, in a nutshell & from my experiences there ARE 3 sources of thoughts. A good source, a bad source, & my own mind source which is limited to 5 senses.

         
    • J.M.

      March 14, 2014 at 1:28 AM

      To who it may concern, lol,

      I ,J.M. said to Skip, Thank you for allowing me to be your friend. I promise to do my utmost to not disappoint you. If I do, it will be done out of ignorance/stupidity.

      Skip said, My 7x Great Grandfather, Captain Samuel Robinson, the father of Vermont, used to segregate the different religious sects into different areas as he sold off land to them. Some called him a bigot, others called him a wise man.

      As anyone can see, the way this ended up, I have prove that I am as I said, ignorant & stupid. Skip has proven to be “wise.” But, I also know that the “wise of the world” are WISER than at least some people who are trying to please the Creator & Life giver & Sustainer of the Universe. Sometimes things we KNOW are better than just being WISE. IF I had any wisdom, I never would have entered this debate between Skip & me. BUT, believe it or not, this has been a good learning experience for me. I cannot say it has give me any wisdom, but I think I have learned enough to see when not to spin my wheels. At least with certain individuals. Skip says, ” Sadly I sense another soul that has been mislead.” Yes, Skip, so do I.

       

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