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A Brief History of Gold

28 Feb

Here’s a graphic presentation on the history of gold:

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Posted by on February 28, 2014 in Gold & Silver Coin

 

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48 responses to “A Brief History of Gold

  1. citizenquasar

    February 28, 2014 at 8:25 AM

    Money must possess four characteristics.

    1) Money must be portable.
    2) money must be durable.
    3) Money must NOT be easily counterfeited.
    4) Money must possess intrinsic value (to prevent inflation).

    Nice poster but…uh…silver is better suited because it is more durable and can be exchanged in quantities of less value.

    Also, according to subquantum kinetics, which provides a more accurate picture of reality that quantums, gold is produced in vortices in the centers of galaxies.

     
  2. Teo

    February 28, 2014 at 8:42 AM

    Your brief “his”story is missing some key elements to true comprehension, and rather simplistic, but a start. I know this blog has heavy religious overtones, and in no way do I mean to offend. If you are going to open then door I would only ask that you come with an open mind and consider the all the physical and scientific evidence available, and not limit yourself. There is in fact now much more to the story not included in this simplistic pictorial “history” lesson. There are precise mine shafts and physical evidence in ABZU, or modern day South Africa, as well as complex pyramid and astronomical calendar structures similar to Stonehenge dating back hundreds of thousands of years. There are millions of harmonic stone circles constructed of a specific type of stone called hornsfeld, known for its crystalline structure and sound propagation characteristics, that are still functional and producing energy today. Sound has many properties, healing, levitation, to name two. The story of gold, of heros and workers, is explained in the Sumerian cuniform tablets (Dr. Zacheria Sichin) and includes descriptions of gods. Modern science also compliments this historical account; quantum physics (Dr. Nassim Harremain) and understanding of the morphagenetic field (Dr. Rupert Sheldrake), biology (Dr. Bruce Lipton), genetics (William Brown). Do some research into Adam’s Calendar, and Michael Tellinger to gain further knowledge about gold, humanity, and consciousness. You will be best served if you leave all of what you learned in school, including on Sunday, at the door and embrace the implications of this information. Peace.

     
    • J.M.

      March 1, 2014 at 10:07 PM

      Teo,

      @ > There are precise mine shafts and physical evidence in ABZU, or modern day South Africa, as well as complex pyramid and astronomical calendar structures similar to Stonehenge dating back hundreds of thousands of years.

      Wow, Teo, GREAT information !!! I too believe the earth has been here for a lot longer than we have historical records. In other words, to the best of my knowledge, we have about 6000 + years of recorded history. There may be more, but as of yet, I am not aware of it. Anyway, the earth has been here for thousands of years LONGER than most people think, in my opinion. It may very well be hundreds of thousands of years or EVEN LONGER. I don’t really know. BUT I firmly believe the earth has been here for many more than thousands of years than we have records of events of, etc.. IF I am understanding Skip Robinson, he, Skip, says that all these ways of dating things are flawed, e.g., carbon dating & so on. I don’t really know. BUT If I may, Let me ask you this, Teo. This Book called the “Holy Bible,” in your opinion, is it a history book, or well, what is it in your opinion of this Book called the Holy Bible?? I have been bombarded with so many different opinions it’s seemingly impossible to know what it is from what others say. When someone like you, with your knowledge posts something tho, He/She doesn’t answer any questions regarding His/Her comment & this tends to make someone suspicious of what the commenter said & the commenter. Know what I mean? Once again, thanks for your post. I hope you will answer my question about this Holy Bible book, as it is called. I am sincerely wanting to know as I think some others might be. interested too. WOW There are a lot of questions I would like to ask you, IF you will give me an answer to my first question. Thanks.

       
      • Teo

        March 1, 2014 at 11:50 PM

        J.M. – Thanks for your reply. As requested, my reply to your inquiries
        @This Book called the “Holy Bible,” in your opinion, is it a history book?
        >>> There are many versions of this book and translations. There are certainly many stories contained within said versions some written by “his” and “her”, so yes it qualifies as a history book.
        @ What is it in your opinion of this Book called the Holy Bible?
        >>>Well, opinions are like a-holes… some would say. I think many of the tales are based upon accounts of actual events. Many of the core messages and teachings deal with love, with which I resonate. I believe many of the accounts of events and descriptions are truthful and open to interpretation, perhaps a biblical scholar can chime in and provide more detail. I think also that much of the details have been manipulated to support various agendas. Reliance upon any sole source of information is generally a bad idea. Compare the creation story in Sumerian cuniform tablets to that in genesis. They are similar, yet the cuniform provides much more detail regarding how Adam was made. In my opinion they are both correct. Darwin’s theory of evolution is also partially correct, and species can adapt and change over time based upon natural selection. This model is also without flaw, and not supported in the fossil record, William Brown speaks to new information about modern human genetic code that I find fascinating. The notion that primitive humans were not advanced as presented in the prevailing model I believe is inaccurate. They were not suitable for slavery, and therefore modified genetically so that they would be more compliant. Genetics are very complex business, and I by no means have full scope comprehension of all the scientific aspects.I still don’t get how we and dolphins, as well as many other species, can share huge chunks of the same code. I suggest you search for interviews available online speaking to new findings in the genetics field. Evidence of a third strand forming within human DNA, and the significance of vibrations, frequency, sacred geometry. If your want a real trip research the amplitudhedron. Many bible stories coincide with genetic evidence. Accounts of giants, angels, other dimensions, are all accurate.

        http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/new-discovery-simplifies-quantum-physics/

        http://williambrownscienceoflife.com/

        Peace

         
    • J.M.

      March 2, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      Hi, Teo.

      Teo, I Don’t know for sure if your message is meant for me but if it is, here is my response

      @ You, Teo, say, > I would only ask that you come with an open mind and consider the all the physical and scientific evidence available, and not limit yourself.

      Thank you.This is how anything should start out. But First, You.Teo, say, Your brief “his”story is missing some key elements to true comprehension, and rather simplistic, but a start.

      I honestly do not know what you mean by “Your brief “his”story. What does this mean? Are you saying that it’s “my history or my “his”story. I’m lost. Please explain,if you will, what you mean by this statement,Your “his”story. Thanks. As I hope you can tell, I do want to understand, & my mind is open.but I need more information on what Your “his” story is or means. Hopefully, I am not asking for too much.

       
    • J.M.

      March 3, 2014 at 7:38 AM

      Teo,
      @ Hopefully, I am not asking for too much.

      Apparently I am asking too much, so let me ask you this, if I may. May I ?ok, thanks. What is,or, your source(s) of your knowledge, or is this asking too much also? Do you have anything for sale re” your knowledge? If so, how much. I’m beginning to think your comment was, excuse me, IS BAIT. Give me something else to BITE ON.

       
    • J.M.

      March 3, 2014 at 1:50 PM

      Teo,
      Thanks for your message

      @ > There are many versions of this book and translations. There are certainly many stories contained within said versions some written by “his” and “her”, so yes it qualifies as a history book.

      Are you,Teo, saying that this is all it is, i.e. a history book, & a history book only. I am trying to understand this book in its entirety IF possible. I think I understand some of it, but there are parts of it I do not understand. Maybe IF I KNEW it was a history book & a history book ONLY, this would help me to understand this book more clearly, whatcha think? Good idea, or no

      @ >I think many of the tales are based upon accounts of actual events.

      This is part of the problem, as we all are taught what certain words mean, this is what we tend to believe. For example, when you,Teo, say “tales” I was taught that word in & of itself meant something untrue, e.g., fairy tale. But you, Teo, “qualify” your meaning of tales by saying, actual events. Thanks for your help in that regard.

      @ Many of the core messages and teachings deal with love, with which I resonate. I believe many of the accounts of events and descriptions are truthful and open to interpretation, perhaps a biblical scholar can chime in and provide more detail.

      Boy, right, you got that right. Where would we be without scholars? I have often wondered how a scholar got to be a scholar. Have you ever thought about that? Maybe someday I could be a scholar. But I don’t know even this is remotely possible. What do I need to do to at least try to become a scholar? I know there are a lot of Bible colleges BUT, I don’t know which one to choose & besides if this Bible Book is only a history book ain’t no sense in paying FAT tuition or costs, etc., to go to whatever college is best, because I ain’t interested in history, that much, meaning knowing the history of just one book.Teo, am I wrong in thinking this way, at least about this particular college thing? I would rather go the a learn how to write well school.

      @ > I think also that much of the details have been manipulated to support various agendas. Reliance upon any sole source of information is generally a bad idea.

      What is a good sole source that is a good idea? You say “generally.” This leaves the door open
      that there may be a sole good source.

      @ > Compare the creation story in Sumerian cuniform tablets to that in genesis.
      How do i get a holt of this Sumerian cuniform tablet info? I think tho, a poster, Yartap, brought this up & told me to study up on it.So, disregard this question, at least until I see if Yartap can help me

      @ >They are similar, yet the cuniform provides much more detail regarding how Adam was made. In my opinion they are both correct. Darwin’s theory of evolution is also partially correct, and species can adapt and change over time based upon natural selection. This model is also without flaw, and not supported in the fossil record,….

      Also without flaw and not supported in the fossil record ??? I’m lost again. Let’s stop here for now & continue later, Is this fair?? I want to go to the links you provided.Thanks Teo, Ohhhh If you do respond tell me if I’m doing a good Job so far in keeping an open mind

       
    • J.M.

      March 3, 2014 at 9:13 PM

      Teo,

      Two more things, What about this “God” thing ? Is there a vastly more superior intelligence existing than we are? I HAVE had a close encounter with “something” Only one & I was not on drugs. It was stunning but it was not frightening. It vanished right before my eyes & would reappear. I guess you could call it a spaceship. Beautiful iridescent glowing white with royal blue hue. There were two beings inside that looked like men. Won’t get into any more about this at this time. ANYWAY, here is something else. Man put so much emphasis on getting to the moon.The thing that is puzzling to me, is, why is it more important to figure out how to get to the moon, than to at least try to figure out how the moon got to where it is for man to even be able to figure out how to get to it, i.e. the moon? I have always been curious about things like this that don’t seem to arouse anyone’s curiousness. Only one or two others & that’s about it. Am I doing a good job of keeping an open mind, or no?

       
    • J.M.

      March 5, 2014 at 8:22 PM

      Teo,

      That’s what I thought. Not opened minded “enough” was I Where are you? I have been patient, but just not “opened minded” enough. Well, that’s ok there are more fishes in the sea. Believe it or not, I had your number from the git-go. Easier prey are waiting. the “itching” ear type.

       
      • Teo

        March 6, 2014 at 7:43 AM

        JM – you are either a troll or someone who is seeking hand holding and coddling. I am not your mother, nor will I hold your hand. Do your own research and stop with the incessant needs “am I open minded” routine. This is my last communication. Whine all you want as it will have zero effect.

         
    • J.M.

      March 6, 2014 at 2:11 PM

      Teo
      J.M. – you are either a troll or someone who is seeking hand holding and coddling. I am not your mother,………”

      I am not a deceiver. If you were sincere, I know what you would have said but I am not going to tell you because you would use it in the future to further your agenda. bye bye

       
    • J.M.

      March 7, 2014 at 8:40 PM

      >>>Well, opinions are like a-holes…

      Quit putting yourself down. You ain’t that bad. You are very clever, so is your Father. Saw recently where Bob Dylan said he made a bargain with IT Maybe it’s not too late for you to get away from IT. From the look on Dylan’s face, it’s to late for him to get away from IT See, I don’t keep open minded enough to allow demonic influence to enter. I don’t want to be that open minded. Your response was EXACTLY like a Martens/Jetlag response EXACTLY. But, see I really did have YOUR number from the git-go. BUT, I admit I have been deceived by some others yes indeed I have but not you. Sorry about that. If you want me to, I’ll tell you who deceived me & maybe you-uns could get together & they could teach you a couple of things. Doubt that you would be interested tho, you already know all you need to know. or so you think. Do you remember that song, hello goodbye & that’s why you say goodbye I say hello? Or WAS it that’s why you say hello I say goodbye. I really did not like that song very much. Do you??

       
  3. cynthia

    February 28, 2014 at 9:10 AM

     
    • J.M.

      March 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM

      cynthia,

      Thank you for the links. I’m sitting here shaking my head in, ( lost for words ), what it going to take for ENOUGH people, aw forget it, APATHY !!!! & WORSE. Apathy, lethargy, is putting it mildly. Thanks for the links, cynthia

       
  4. mikeck44Mike

    February 28, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Hmm, gold is the perfect store of value (SOV) because its supply is very limited and it is not really NEEDED for anything else. Fiat/debt/computer digital currencies work so well as a medium of exchange (MOE) and unit of account (UOA) because supply, divisibility and portability are NOT limited.

    Silver, being so valuable and NEEDED as a commodity, is not a good currency or store of value, i.e. anything that has great value as a commodity will cause great conflict if it is taken out of the economy via hoarding or merely to be used as currency. Besides, who really wants to limit technological advances just so they can wear out pockets and/or bury currency for 100 years and forget all about it. ;-)

    A SOV does not need, and should not have, any other significant use. The problem with fiat/debt/computer digits arises when they are used as a SOV, i.e. held for future use. They are not inherently bad and, when used only as a MOE and/or UOA, work very well. Those who curse fiat money, like I used to, probably have not yet decided that gold is the perfect SOV and moved their excess assets out of fiat into gold.

    “Gold, get you some.”
    Time is a wasting,
    Mike

     
    • moon

      March 6, 2014 at 11:31 PM

      Mike, I’m not comprehending your path of evidence to your conclusions. A couple of questions:

      What does this mean?

      Besides, who really wants to limit technological advances just so they can wear out pockets and/or bury currency for 100 years and forget all about it. ;-)

      If a currency has no other significant use (or based on something with other significant use) how is it different from FRNs, Tulip Bulbs, baubles, sea shells, Bitcoin, or Beanie Babies?

      If a SOV has no significant use, no value, how can it be a store of value?

      Are you disagreeing with Jefferson and associates, by suggesting that gold and silver are not good to use as mediums of exchange?

       
      • Mike

        March 8, 2014 at 10:07 PM

        Moon,

        No guarantees here, as I am relativity new to this way of seeing the world and no one has yet claimed to have a shortcut to a full understanding that I am aware of: You wrote, “What does this mean? Besides, who really wants to limit technological advances just so they can wear out pockets and/or bury currency for 100 years and forget all about it. ;-)”
        That was in reference to using a valuable commodities, silver/gold, as currency and SOV …I no longer accept the premise that MOE/UOA, i.e. currency, needs to have intrinsic value. It also should not have significant uses in society. However, it is critically important that something besides currency be available for use as the SOV.

        As suggested above, with my new understanding, I no longer accept that FRNs are a bad MOE, but I do think something along the lines of Bitcoins might be better. The other things you mentioned are no good as a MOE now or in this new paradigm because they are not nearly as convenient and have other uses that some would say should not be sacrificed merely so that a MOE/UOA can be said to have value.

        The only real use/value gold has is as a SOV. That is what makes it perfect in that role and why it has fulfilled that role for millennium, i.e. wealth has been preserved through many generations by hoarding gold and society did not even miss it or care. Yes, a small portion of gold is useful for jewellery and a few other things, but even much of that has as its primary purpose being a SOV. The brilliance of this is that we can store value without taking from society things that it needs. These are the things that give gold its value.

        Regarding Jefferson and associates, it does seem that they were not perfect…history shows that gold and silver have failed as MOE more than a few times. Also, a gold standard gives government too much control over the finances of society and the people.

        Just for the record, I no longer worship at the alter of the constitution. In his work, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority, Lysander Spooner wrote, “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain — that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist.” That was written back in 1867 and the evidence has continued to pile up.

        Mike
        PS: If you have 6 months or so to study the subject of Freegold, google FOFOA. If you are a quick study you may get it better and quicker than did I, but it was well worth my time and effort even though I had to recenter almost everything I thought I knew about money and value.

         
  5. moon

    March 8, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Mike, you have cut me deeply. What would you suggest I do with the many warehouses I have filled with Beanie Babies?

     
    • Mike

      March 8, 2014 at 11:00 PM

      Enjoy them or sell some so others can enjoy them…just do not stick them in a bank account or try to buy one of my watermelons with a couple of dozen of them. ;-)

       
      • moon

        March 9, 2014 at 12:35 AM

        @ Mike – Regarding Jefferson and associates, it does seem that they were not perfect…history shows that gold and silver have failed as MOE more than a few times. Also, a gold standard gives government too much control over the finances of society and the people.

        Whose his – story shows that gold and silver have failed as a medium of exchange? The ones who wanted to engage in theft by inflation?

        Who told you that gold gives government any control at all? Are you one of those who say that guns kill people?

        Where are you getting this bull shit? FOFOA? I don’t even want to attempt guessing what that acronym stands for!

         
      • Mike

        March 9, 2014 at 10:44 AM

        Better stated, gold and/or silver standard have a history of failure for all but criminal governments, i.e. all of them…they benefit greatly.

        No one told me, I saw the failure of hard money standards within my own lifetime and read somewhere that the Roman empire, among others, also managed inflation quite well while destroying their hard money system…there is that criminal government thingy again, but some still want a gold standard set and controlled by gov….go figure!

        Our system used to have a gold standard…thankfully, not so much anymore. The problem arose not from eliminating the gold standard, but from stripping the people of the ability to save in gold. We have that ability back now, but still have prices controlled by gov. via paper gold…there are those words control and gov. together again.

        My guns have killed no one, but those controlled by the criminal government, not so much…oh, never mind, guns do not kill, governments do, but still some want to give them power over our money, go figure!

        Hmm, some say it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness, but to each his/her own.

         
      • J.M.

        March 9, 2014 at 2:27 PM

        @ > Better stated, gold and/or silver standard have a history of failure for all but criminal governments, i.e. all of them…they benefit greatly.

        It’s not the “thing” that’s wrong, it’s the “wrong use” of the “thing”

         
      • Mike

        March 9, 2014 at 6:03 PM

        I disagree, but have to ask, why will outcomes in the future be different than those in the past.

         
      • J.M.

        March 9, 2014 at 2:53 PM

        @ > My guns have killed no one,…….

        If one ever does, you can count on it for sure, that GUN will be arrested & charged with some degree of death, e.g., 1st degree murder, manslaughter, etc. it’s even possible that GUN will suffer the death penalty ITSELF. We do not need heartless guns. Have gun will travel. Takes TWO 2 tango. Did you know that an automobile, e.g a Volkswagen Bug, is an inherently dangerous weapon? That’s what the courts say. Oh yes they do too. We even have “suspicious looking” autos. Here we have a little pickup truck parked at a 7-11 store & there is something “suspicious” about this. Ohhhh I apologize, they call it, a motor vehicle, that looks suspicious, they do not call it an automobile. Sorry about that.

         
      • J.M.

        March 9, 2014 at 6:54 PM

        Moonie, You ask, Mike,

        @ >What would you suggest I do with the many warehouses I have filled with Beanie Babies?

        What prompted a genius like you, moon, to decide it is a good idea to have many warehouses filled with Beanie Babies? You can do better than this, I KNOW you can. Where did this brilliant thought come from? & you followed through with it? Now you are asking how to get this problem off of your hands. I’ll tell you how. Find someone you don’t like & give all your warehouses full of Beanie Babies to the individual, person,etc you don’t like. That’s a good idea isn’t it?

         
      • J.M.

        March 10, 2014 at 2:25 PM

        Mike, you say,

        @ >I disagree, but have to ask, why will outcomes in the future be different than those in the past

        1.- It would certainly be a great big help when people comment IF he/she would say who the comment IS meant for. This comment from me is meant for Mike as I have tried to show by what is showing above. This comment from me starts out, Mike, you say. Anyway, if you Mike, are saying you disagree with me, why is it, that “God” says, the Gold & Silver are mine (<HIS)? I said, it's not the thing that is wrong, it's the wrong use of the thing. This thing I am referring to is Gold &/or Silver. But, as I said, It would certainly be a great big help when people comment IF he/she would say who the comment IS meant for. So, Mike, if you are disagreeing with me, what is it I have said, in your opinion, that is wrong? What is wrong with me saying, it's not the thing that is wrong, it's the wrong use of the thing.? OR, are you disagreeing with someone else? Help me out here, Mike.

         
    • J.M.

      March 12, 2014 at 4:26 AM

      Mike, you have cut me deeply.

      OH NO !!! Deep cuts for deep pockets, like in warehouses FULL of Beanie Weenie Babies. LOL

       
  6. moon

    March 9, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Mostly, a tyrannical government is the kicker, wouldn’t you agree? If so, deal with that rather than bashing a supposed testing of a gold standard and good stores of value. If something doesn’t have value, how can it be a store of value?

    Cheers !!!

     
    • Mike

      March 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM

      One would be hard pressed to find a government that does not end up being tyrannical when given too much power, like a gold standard does. Asking for another gold standard is asking to be abused. I will not go willingly even though I would likely be gone before the abusive stage got a new toehold.

      The only test would be how long before it is used to abuse the people…it is not a question of if, but when. Why test something that has always failed? Maybe the politicos and bankers are better now and only want to help us?

      I explained above what gives gold its value…I might add that most average people do not see the true value of gold as a SOV because it has been openly suppressed. However, those who count there wealth in tonnes vs. ozs. have had the info and used it for many generations. Even those who had tonnes in the early thirties were only able to bring their wealth forward if it was held, in gold, outside the gold standard.

      When paper gold is gone (Soon?) and the real thing is valued much higher openly, everyone should be able to see the truth and stop thinking a MOE also needs to be a SOV. I openly admit it was not an easy transition for me. This is how a commenter, Blondie, put it on the blog, “The Gold Standard appears virtuous until you understand Freegold. Fiat currency appears evil until you understand Freegold.”

      Mike
      PS: Freegold means only physical gold being sold as gold, i.e. no more paper gold being sold as though it were the real thing, i.e. gold set free!

       
      • J.M.

        March 9, 2014 at 4:20 PM

        Do precious metals have a heart? The way things are, the most precious metal of them all, for me, is, LEAD. The kind of lead that has the pointed ends that penetrate.

        Luke 22:
        35 And He said to them, When I sent you out with no purse or [provision] bag or sandals, did you lack anything? They answered, Nothing!

        36 Then He said to them, But now let him who has a purse take it, and also [his provision] bag; and let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy a sword.

        To my knowledge, swords were the “weapons” of that era/time. Also, Emanuel, aka, Jesus, knew when he said this, he would no longer be with them in the same sense he was then. In a few hours he would be dead. Moses did not have a problem killing the Egyptian SLAVE MASTER. Seems to me Moses did not lose any standing with “God” by killing the SLAVE MASTER. There are other examples that JUSTIFY KILLING SOMEONE. There IS a big difference in killing someone v. murdering someone.

         
      • J.M.

        March 9, 2014 at 4:32 PM

        Then again, maybe the more we can understand the mediums of exchange, intrinsic values, no intrinsic value, etc., this is probably the missing key to resolving & solving ALL problems. Yes, this should be first & foremost in our “hearts.” Obviously, it should be obvious this is the missing key. Understanding mediums of exchange. This is not at all a rabbit hole issue whatsoever, No way. It is of utmost importance & has the utmost intrinsic value above all & everything else. We need to understand this first & foremost, before anything else. Once we understand this, the rest will be easy to figure out.

         
      • moon

        March 9, 2014 at 4:59 PM

        Mike, there’s your trouble right there. When I say gold, it means gold, not paper. You’re also allowing “government” to control you. Not the best move.

         
    • J.M.

      March 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM

      @ > Mostly, a tyrannical government is the kicker,…….”

      Yes, & we are the football, but, maybe not you, moon. You are not one of those Moonies, are you, moon? Well, if you IS you would not say so.You would ask, what is a Moonie? Thanks for your help in responding to my request, asking you 3 times, excuse me, my PLEAS for help. I love people with big hearts.

       
  7. Mike

    March 9, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    @ moon March 9, 2014 at 4:59 PM

    ???????? It is not me who wants government to say what my gold is worth.
    Mike

     
    • moon

      March 9, 2014 at 6:23 PM

      How does your reply make sense in this conversation? Please advise.

       
      • J.M.

        March 9, 2014 at 7:07 PM

        @ >How does your reply make sense in this conversation? Please advise.

        your question by it’s very nature must be addressed to me, not Mike. The question has already been answered. I know the answer does not make sense. Individuals,aka persons, etc who only use their 5 senses to know if something is true or not cannot understand anything that doesn’t fit into one or more of the 5 senses. I’ve heard that some people have a 6th or even higher sense. Seems like this is true. As for me, I’m not smart enough to figure out that it cannot be understood or is true. Some people get things done because they are not smart enough to know it cannot be done. Know what I mean? How many warehouses of Beanie Babies do you have? Oh I know, it’s none of my business.

         
      • Mike

        March 9, 2014 at 7:48 PM

        In light of this, “Mike, there’s your trouble right there. When I say gold, it means gold, not paper. You’re also allowing “government” to control you. Not the best move.” It makes perfect sense. Gold standards always end up with excess paper purporting to be backed by gold and/or debased coins.

         
      • J.M.

        March 12, 2014 at 11:35 AM

        moon, you say, to Mike,

        @ >Mike, it’s possible that I lack the mental capacity to comprehend.

        Oh come on now, moon? Who do you think you’re kidding? What’s up?

         
  8. moon

    March 9, 2014 at 7:59 PM

    Mike, apparently, you’re not listening.

     
    • J.M.

      March 9, 2014 at 8:58 PM

      In the “meantime” the Holy Bible says a little something about the “end times.”

      2 Timothy 3:2-5 ALL of what is showing below IS because of being disobedient to, YHWH ha Elohiym

      2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

      3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

      4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

      5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

      Just like ol so called “Saint Nick” at Christmas time, he is everywhere, no exceptions. I know you agree. How well I know. Why do you keep ignoring my plea for help question? I tried to help you, or so I thought. Funny, isn’t it. Everybody has his/her BEST foot forward when trying to make an impression. Know what I mean? Y, of course.

       
      • J.M.

        March 12, 2014 at 4:45 AM

        In the “meantime” the Holy Bible says a little something about the “end times.”

        The “Good LORD” has just informed me that what is written in 2nd Timothy 3: 2-5 applies to some of his people in his” unsupported” Church too. I don’t know yet if I am one of them but I’m sure there are some others who know so. I will know if this is true after a 3 day fast which means TOTAL absence of food or water.

         
    • Mike

      March 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM

      Not true, you refuse to comprehend…I’ll not waste any more time. I’m not trying to sell anything and you do not seem to want to come into the light of the candle.

      Gaday,
      Mike

       
      • J.M.

        March 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM

        Mike,
        @ >Not true, you refuse to comprehend…

        Some “individuals” like to play games.

         
      • moon

        March 10, 2014 at 9:38 PM

        Mike, it’s possible that I lack the mental capacity to comprehend. It’s a fact, however, that I’m not refusing to comprehend.

        Rather than answering my questions, which I’m asking in an attempt to comprehend, you’ve made a bunch of generalizations, possibly unfounded, and have raised attempts at arguments for positions you’ve assigned to me.

        Please disregard any previous discussion for now and enlighten me concerning this one question: how can anything that has no value be a store of value?

         
      • Mike

        March 11, 2014 at 1:19 PM

        I answered the question. I never said it didn’t have value…I thought I clearly showed that its value is as a store of value. Unlike, if say, silver were used, there is essentially nothing of great ECONOMIC value taken from society when gold is hoarded as a SOV. Again, I never said gold had no value, but if it came across that way, I guess it is a result of my public/government “education” or lack thereof and I would appreciate it if you would forgive me.

        Fiat currencies are not a problem when gold is freely traded and used as a SOV…the problem arises when gold is not freely traded or is not available to us proles; thereby, causing fiat to be used as a SOV. I might add that the problem also arises eventually when a gold standard is imposed upon us and inevitably becomes debased or morphs into fiat with access to gold taken from us.

        Does anyone beside me remember what happened to previous gold standards? I see the same outcome if we go down that road again. The following is one thing, from the author, that I have never heard disputed, “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein

        I do not think I can make it any clearer than that, but I ain’t selling anything, so we may just have to chalk it up as a failure to communicate if I still have not made it understandable.

        Mike

         
  9. Adask

    March 11, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    That’s a very good question. It goes to the heart of the problem with all fiat currencies.

     
  10. moon

    March 11, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Is my mouth broken? Think I’ll listen to Einstein before I go insane.

    Mike, I wish you the best with your watermelons. Sounds as if you may be a farmer…we need good farmers…I’m cheering for you.

    Meanwhile, l’ll muddle along with my beanie babies and silver.

     
    • J.M.

      March 12, 2014 at 4:37 AM

      One does have to have the mental capacity of an Einstein to understand man made law. ANY uneducated man can understand Royal Law. This only requires a contrite heart, In fact, too much formal education can be a big hindrance to understanding God’s Royal Law. Too much “smarts” can cause one to discard some Royal Law It’s mind over heart.

       

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