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“Complex Chain Reactions”

21 Mar

A Complex Chain Reaction [courtesy Google Images]

A Complex Chain Reaction
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Under the headline, “Obama:  No U.S. military action in Ukraine,” The Washington Examiner reported that, on Wednesday, President Obama told an NBC affiliate that,

“We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine.  What we are going to do is mobilize all of our diplomatic resources to make sure that we’ve got a strong international coalition that sends a clear message. Ukraine should decide their own destiny. Russia right now is violating international law and the sovereignty of another country. Might doesn’t make right.”

 

With just a couple more platitudes, Obama might’ve won the Guinness record for most platitudes in the least number of words.  Guinness might give him a plaque.  He could put it on the mantle next to his Nobel Prize for Peace.

Apparently, the President who believes he can use drones to murder anyone who opposes him in foreign countries (including Americans) without judicial process, now also believes that “might does not make right”.  He may not see a contradiction between his actions and his words, the contradiction is there.

Obama also observed that “Ukraine should decide their own destiny”.  But he didn’t bother to explain why Crimea shouldn’t be allowed to decide its destiny.

President Obama also predicted that a “strong international coalition” would soon send a “clear, diplomatic message” to Russia, the Ukraine and the world.   Obama didn’t say what that message might be, but in Texan, it’ll probably be somthin’ like, “bidness is bidness” and therefore the Ukraine (which is guaranteed by treaty to be protected by the US and the UK from Russia) will have to accept Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

Obama’s  announcement may not be good news for Ukraine, but it is for the rest of the world.   President Obama isn’t dumb enough to go to war with Russia over the Crimea.   Thank God.  The World War III that some predicted will have to wait for another day.

In fact, as I’ve said for most of two weeks, there’s virtually nothing the US can do that’s meaningful in relation to the Ukraine conflict.  There are two reasons for our inability to act in regard to Crimea:

  1.  We don’t have sufficient resources to enter into a ground war with Russia.
  2.  We don’t have a dog in the fight.  There are just four parties that have a direct, vested interest in Russia’s annexation of Crimea:  1) Russia; 2) Crimea; 3) Ukraine and 4) EU (which depends on Russian natural gas to support the EU economy).

Russia and the Crimea are united against Ukraine.  Insofar as Ukraine threatens the pipelines that carry Russian natural gas t Europe, the EU could easily side with Russia and Crimea and against Ukraine in order to protect EU energy supplies.

Implication:  The Ukraine may not like losing Crimea, but there’s not much they can do about it and there’s no one they can appeal to for support.

•  On Thursday, The New York Times reported in “Ukraine Plans to Withdraw Troops from Russian-Occupied Crimea”:

“Bowing to reality . . .  the Ukrainian government said  that it had drawn up plans to evacuate all of its military personnel and their families [from the Crimean peninsula]  . . . .  [T]he evacuation announcement . . . effectively amounted to a surrender of Crimea.”

 

Insofar as 1) Russia won’t invade Ukraine unless the Ukrainian government oppresses Russians within Ukraine; 2) the US has announced it will take no military action in Ukraine; and, 3) the Ukraine itself is evacuating its troops from Crimea; then, 4)  the “war” over Crimea (if there really was a “war” in this matter) is over.

 

•  However, also on Thursday, the Voice of Russia reported in “Kiev’s threat to confiscate Gazprom property will lead to the chain reaction, from which Ukraine will not benefit” that the Ukrainian government were still threatening  to seize Russian property, including property of Gazprom (which includes natural gas pipelines stretching from Russia, across Ukraine, and on to the EU).

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said such seizures could precipitate a complex chain reaction, from which Ukraine would not benefit.  According to Lavrov,

“‘I think that it is in no one’s interests to begin this battle. Property of Gazprom is not state property as with other business entities of ours.  And this initiative [of Ukraine] could lead to a quite complex chain reaction, from which I suppose Ukraine will not benefit’.”

 

Now it’s getting interesting.

While the EU, UK, and US do little or nothing to sanction Russia for annexing the Crimea and the Ukraine is withdrawing its troops from Crimea, the little Ukraine is attempting to impose “economic consequences” that have some teeth—seizing control (or perhaps destroying) the natural gas pipelines between Russia and the EU.

The result could be a shooting war that no one really wants.

Possible solutions?

  1.  The Ukraine might think twice and simply agree to return Crimea to Russia.
  2.  Russia might be able to bribe the individual leaders of Ukraine, or bribe the Ukraine government itself to abandon its resistance to the annexation of Crimea.  (If Russia offered to increase the rent it pays on the pipelines crossing Ukraine and everyone might be happy.)
  3.  Fools may yet prevail, and we could see some sort of shooting war between Russia and Ukraine.  If we do, we can expect Russia to invade the eastern Ukraine (and maybe all of the Ukraine).  Once Russia invades, Ukraine will not only lose the Crimea but also eastern Ukraine to Russia.

I don’t expect a shooting war to break out, but if one does, we can expect that Ukraine will destroy Russian pipelines that run through Ukraine on their way to the EU. In which case, the EU will be angered—probably more at the Ukraine than at Russia.

The strong probability is that the Ukraine’s threats to seize Gazprom pipelines are not direct threats against Russia so much as an attempt to directly threaten the EU’s energy supply in order to leverage the EU into helping Ukraine against Russia.

However, a Ukraine attack on the Gazprom pipelines might cause Russia to attack and take control over the entire Ukraine and thus begin the “complex chain reaction” that Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov warned against.

I.e., if a shooting war breaks out between Russia and Ukraine, some Ukrainians will be shot and killed.  The resulting Ukrainian rage will guarantee that a Ukrainian underground will be formed which will be dedicated to attacking Gazprom pipelines throughout Ukraine territory—even if the Ukrainian government reaches a peace agreement with Russia.

While the Ukrainians may hope that if they threaten the pipelines, the EU will be forced to join the Ukraine against Russia’s annexation of the Crimea, that hope may be dashed if the EU decides to join Russia in protecting the Gazprom pipelines that run through the Ukraine.

It could very well be that the “complex chain reaction” caused by Ukrainian attacks on the pipelines could hurt the Ukraine by strengthening the alliance between the EU and Russia and against the Ukraine.

An even stronger alliance between the EU and Russia will be contrary to US interests.  Therefore, the US government—which has a treaty obligation to protect the Ukraine—will not only fail to defend the Ukraine, but  may work actively to compel Ukraine to agree to forfeit the Crimea or even parts of eastern Ukraine to Russia, rather than allow the Ukraine to inadvertently help strengthen the bond between Russia and the EU.

•  The US can’t secretly use Special Forces, or Ukrainian guerillas to foment more chaos in Ukraine.  Inevitably, such secrets will be revealed.  So, suppose the US helped fund the destruction of Gazprom pipelines this year.  That destruction would cause Russia to lose a primary source of income and thereby hurt Russia significantly.

But, that same pipeline destruction would also deprive the EU of much of its energy supply and would certainly cause the EU to suffer much hardship.  That deprivation might even push the EU into an economic depression.  A depression in the EU might be enough to trigger a full-blown depression here in the US.

Now, let’s suppose that the US government’s “secret” involvement in causing the Gazprom pipelines to be disabled came to be known to the governments of the EU and the American people.  The EU would be furious at the US for helping to shut off the EU’s natural gas source.  US power relative to the EU would be further diminished.  The people of the US, learning that US meddling helped cause a European, and then American, economic depression would also be furious at the US government.

This “complex chain reaction” makes it a virtual certainty that the US can’t hope to “secretly” meddle in Ukrainian affairs to any significant degree.  Inevitably, the “secret” will be exposed and the resulting wrath of the European and American people will be turned on the US government.

The US government can’t win by siding with the Ukraine.

Implication 1:  the little Ukraine is unable to protect itself against Russia and won’t find any foreign governments to protect it.

Implication 2:  The Russian annexation of Crimea to Russia is a done deal.  The sooner everyone—including Ukraine–recognizes that fact, the safer this unsafe world will be.

Implication 3:   We increasingly live in a global economy wherein almost anything our governments do can result in a “complex chain reaction” that may not only hurt others, but may also hurt those who set the “complex chain” in motion.

•  We are so interconnected that it’s no longer clear if any big government can move to take advantage of weaker nations in a way that won’t ultimately harm the big government which initiated that move.

That’s not necessarily bad.  In our brave, new world order, what goes around really might come around.  It could be that, based on our interconnectedness and inter-dependencies, the people of the world may be forced to become more moral.  Increasingly, we may not be able to act in an immoral way and still escape the consequences of our own immorality.  That’s a good thing.

But, in our brave, new, interconnected and inter-dependent world, we’re also increasingly endangered.   What if some super-rich lunatic in the Ukraine, Uganda or Texas doesn’t recognize the potential for “complex chain reactions”?  What if some greedy fool initiates an economic act that’s intended to enrich himself alone but unintentionally starts one of these “complex chain reactions” that almost took place in the Ukraine and might’ve led to WWIII?

•  We see other examples of “complex chain reactions” that increasingly inhibit governments, businesses and individuals.

For example, nuclear war seems unthinkable because some the radiation that’s released by a nuclear weapon detonated half-way around the world will inevitably circle the globe to fall back on the nation that launched the nuclear weapon.  That’s a “complex chain reaction”.

Two of the immediate effects of industries in pursuit of more profits may be the consumption of too much energy and/or production of too much CO2.  Too much energy consumption and/or too much CO2 production may cause global warming that threatens the world with massive drought and famines.

What about China, which is so busy industrializing that it’s creating levels of pollution that can be measured all the way across the Pacific Ocean in California?

How ‘bout General Electric that sold the nuclear power plants to Fukushima, Japan, that are now threatening to poison much of the North Pacific and perhaps even the Northwestern US.  How’s that for a “complex chain reaction”?

The cell phones that delight the world may also be the source of electronic radiation that’s killing the honey bees we depend on to pollinate much of our food.   That’s another “complex chain reaction” that ultimately threatens us all.

And what about China, which would dearly love to dispose of the US Treasuries it holds before they become worthless?  Could China suddenly dump all of its US Treasuries without collapsing the value of those Treasuries before they can sell them all?  In our brave, new interconnected world it will cost China more to sell its US bonds than it does to keep them.  How’s that as evidence of another “complex chain reaction”.

•  I don’t intend to engage in fear-mongering.  Still, as the world becomes increasingly interconnected and interdependent, it seems true that we all become increasingly subject to “complex chain reactions” that are hazardous to our health.  As a result, just one man who is sufficiently foolish or malicious and who has enough wealth or power could trigger a “complex chain reaction” that causes a global depression the deaths of millions.

How many powerful people do you suppose there in this world who are sufficiently foolish or malicious to trigger a global depression?

No one knows.

How long before one of those rich/powerful psychopaths triggers a “complex chain reaction” that harms us all?

No one knows.

And what are the odds that no such “complex chain of events” will never actually take place?

No one knows.

Does that ignorance disturb you?

It does me.

I’ll bet that pervasive ignorance also disturbs people in positions of power.

For example, consider Janet Yellen, the Federal Reserve’s new Chairwoman.  Despite her education, intelligence and experience, she has to know that she’s acting in a global financial and economic system that’s so complex and interconnected as to be unprecedented and largely incomprehensible.

And yet, Ms. Yellen is being called on every day to make decisions that could inadvertently trigger a “complex chain reaction” that could kill millions.

Would you want that burden?

I wouldn’t.

To me, it seems inevitable that one day whoever sits as the Federal Reserve’s chairman will make a mistake that will set of an unexpectedly “complex chain reaction” that kills millions and plunges much of the world into darkness.   I wouldn’t want that responsibility.

Admittedly, such catastrophe is hypothetical and might not take place for another 20 years—maybe more.

But, as the world becomes increasingly interconnected and increasingly interdependent, the odds of such catastrophe taking place can only increase.   However unlikely that such catastrophe takes place this year, the odds are higher that it will take place in A.D. 2015, and higher yet, that it’ll take place in A.D. 2016.

In the end, that hypothetical catastrophe seems inevitable.

How do you shield yourself against these “complex chain reactions”?  It may be that you’re currently dependent upon and “connected to” the increasingly global system of economics and finance.  But if you’re inclined to protect yourself from a systemic failure of that global economy, you’ll need to disconnect from that system and distance yourself from it as best you can.  You’ll need to find or create a separate existence composed of a shelter and water supply that are off the grid, that are adequately stocked with food, tools, guns, ammunition, silver and gold.  You’ll need  to make independent living possible and help you survive for a while if the system crashes in a “complex chain reaction” that affects all of its dependent persons.

Even if you’re well-prepared, your survival won’t be guaranteed.  Why?  Because no one can accurately predict how the next big “complex chain reaction” will play out.

Nevertheless, if you’re prepared, you’ll have a better chance to survive and perhaps even prosper than most.

 

 
 

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33 responses to ““Complex Chain Reactions”

  1. medicis

    March 21, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    you still believe in global warming?

     
    • Adask

      March 21, 2014 at 8:57 PM

      Not necessarily, but some people do. That’s why I used the word “may be” and “may cause” in the two sentences used in reference to “global warming”.

       
  2. medicis

    March 21, 2014 at 8:29 PM

    otherwise, your analysis is spot on….

     
  3. medicis

    March 21, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    oh, and as an aside… saw another good article that analyzed the situation in terms of Monopoly vs Chess vs Poker…. and which game Putin is playing… if i find it i will forward it…. it’s interesting too.

     
    • medicis

      March 21, 2014 at 8:33 PM

      i think it was on VeteransToday dot com

       
  4. Toland

    March 21, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    Ukraine has no complaint against Russia for losing Crimea.

    The people of Crimea, who are mostly Russian, voted to secede from Ukraine and become an independent state. They did this in response to the foreign-sponsored coup by anti-Russian gangsters in Kiev.

    Only after Crimea was no longer part of Ukraine did it agree to join the Russian Federation.

     
  5. J.M.

    March 22, 2014 at 12:00 AM

    @ > And yet, Ms. Yellen is being called on every day to make decisions that could inadvertently trigger a “complex chain reaction” that could kill millions.

    Jesus loves us, this I know for the Bible tells us so. The Bible also tells us, > Matthew 24:21,> For then there will be great tribulation (affliction, distress, and oppression) such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now—no, and never will be [again]. < AFTER it happens.

    22 And if those days had not been shortened, no man would endure and survive, but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened.

     
    • moon

      March 22, 2014 at 12:59 AM

      J.M., are you one of those “elect (God’s chosen ones)”?

       
      • J.M.

        March 22, 2014 at 1:07 AM

        @ > I can safely say, that YOU, ECHO EARS, MOONIE ARE NOT. The Statement is meant for who it applies to. Why do you love to continually GOAD, & PROVOKE, & BELITTLE, & RIDICULE ???

         
      • J.M.

        March 22, 2014 at 5:36 AM

        The Bible also tells us, > Matthew 24:21-22

        Why are you not concerned more or at all what The Holy Bible SAYS than whether I am one of the chosen ones? You are not concerned about what is close to happening?? Who is? Where is everybody??

         
  6. moon

    March 22, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    J.M., you didn’t answer my question. Are you one of those elect?

     
  7. J.M.

    March 22, 2014 at 1:26 AM

    DETROIT (AP) — “Michigan’s ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional, a federal judge declared Friday, striking down a law that was widely embraced by voters a decade ago in the latest in a series of similar decisions across the country.” < (This was a few hours ago).

    Yes, An immoral government for immoral people. ECHO EARS, as to your question, Are you one of those elect? The truth is, I don't know. Are you? I answered your question as best as I know how, now you answer mine. Are you, ECHO EARS, one of the elect within the meaning of who "God" says the elect are, not in your own mind, but as who "God" says the elect are? Answer it. Be careful how you answer, IF you do.

     
    • moon

      March 22, 2014 at 1:32 AM

      Easy, buddy, you’ll get the demons stirred up again.

       
      • J.M.

        March 22, 2014 at 1:43 AM

        @ > Easy, buddy, you’ll get the demons stirred up again.

        In Who??

         
    • Doug

      March 23, 2014 at 7:13 AM

      J.M. (you posted)

      “Michigan’s ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional, a federal judge declared Friday, striking down a law that was widely embraced by voters a decade ago in the latest in a series of similar decisions across the country.”

      I told a friend years ago that we’re living within the FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM not the America some of us fought, bled and died to preserve. I commented at that time that Queer marriages would prevail because all taxpayers are genderless entities in the view of the powers that be. This being the case one taxpayer cannot be prevented from marrying another taxpayer and in the corporate/commercial system there’s no place for morality.

      Individually we are pretty much powerless. United we are a force to be reckoned with but resistance to the Babylonian system starts with each individual making up his/her mind not to bend the knee.

       
  8. moon

    March 22, 2014 at 1:54 AM

    Excellent question!

     
    • J.M.

      March 22, 2014 at 1:59 AM

      @ > Excellent question!

      Yes, I know. Answer it.

       
      • moon

        March 22, 2014 at 2:01 AM

        Is the answer important to you?

         
    • J.M.

      March 22, 2014 at 4:29 AM

      ECHO EARS,
      @ > I asked you before if you had some kind of “control” over this blog & I said if you answered yes, I would ban myself. Why don’t you answer that question?

      Sorry, I apologize, I see you made your usual half ass attempt To answer that question on another thread. When you do “answer” lol, it’s just another goad, etc. Why don’t you just go ahead & stick a fork in me. I’m well done

       
  9. J.M.

    March 22, 2014 at 4:14 AM

    @ > Is the answer important to you?

    Not at all. I already know the answer. I wish I knew what your real purpose is for being on this blog. I have already caught you lying. And, you say you like to party, etc. I asked you before if you had some kind of “control” over this blog & I said if you answered yes, I would ban myself. Why don’t you answer that question? I only want to make one more comment anyway. I’m just waiting for the right thread to come up.To me, You are only playing cruel games. But, then I guess if I could see my own comments like others see them I guess I would think my comments are those of a troll. too What is it about me that you don’t like? I tried to be of help to you. I asked you ONE time if you would give me 2 or 3 minutes of your time to try & answer something for me & you ignored that question. I asked you repeatedly why do you keep ignoring my question for your help. You ignored that question too, repeatedly. I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that my question centered on strange things happening computer wise. Anyway I’m going to see if I can go back & find a thread to leave the last comment I want to make. If I cannot, then I have done all I can do. I haven’t been of help to anyone anyway, it seems.I understand from a reliable honest source that you are really an attorney at law.. Yes, at, not in law, but at law.. There ARE also some scriptures that have a little something to say about lawyers too. not the dejure type, but the fleecers. I am going to try & say, there but for the grace of “God” go I. Maybe that is the best thing to do for someone like me. To me you are the worst piece of nothing I have ever seen or heard. You don’t even have any semblance of class, except LOW class.

     
    • pop de adam

      March 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM

      moon states:

      “Easy, buddy, you’ll get the demons stirred up again.”

      J.M. asks:

      “In Who??”

      It could be anyone or it might be you. Moon was being flippant by perhaps insinuating that the demons might be within you. Please take no offence, as it is easy to allow offense to become one of these demons.

      A rightous man ambles along his day and is offended to see two dogs fornicating. He believes this an abomination and sends them on their way with a swift kick. They are only dogs with no true sense of right and wrong, no institution of marriage to soil and of course this is how more dogs are produced as is their nature. The offense really only came into being in the rightous mans own mind.

      This man may have have exercised an authority he did not posess. The bible says man shall have dominion over animals, why wouldn’t it was written for man. But all evidences of this authority are either in mans language or his printed word of the same. Is this authority to be believed or is this another example of people attempting to manipulate people. Most animals flee from man so perhaps they are privy to this authority(recognizing potential death), but their are many other animals that would have man for lunch and do not respect this authority(also recognizing a potential death).

      Many, but not all of your comments often cite as authority, scripture. What I have found is authority comes from within those who might give it(or withhold it). This is consent, when you sign a check, a contract or make a promise. Authority from without yourself is more properly termed dominion, subjagation, or at worst slavery. We often hear mention within various scriptures that there is some covenant at play between man and his creator. If there is this contract how could it be refuted? If a contract is inviolable is it really a contract or more simply a fact or truth? What if the terms change within the terms this contract is to exist? What is actionable, can any of it come to resolution? Of course those attempting authority will authorize their own authority, they will perform mental gymnastics to convince you that they exercise it on your behalf. Why should they exercise that which we have always had the ability to exercise? Let those injured make their claims, if it is found so, let them recieve damages for said injury. Third parties are often only going to diminish any damages due. An exeption might be murder, where the “injured” party is dead and cannot make a claim.

      I am making an assumption that J.M. lives in America. When we often express our dismay at a law or rule we are often told the remedy is to have it changed through more elections and democracy However what few contemplate is that we would be partaking in the very thing we are often troubled by, we would be stuck in this loop, those few who wrote out the organic documents were without it and consented to everything within it, everything after is only contemplated from within it. This becomes a type of circular logic. To move beyond these bounds means either new organic documentation or at worst accusations of insurrection or treason. You might think all pretenses of civilization being the objective would be gone when evidence that those in government are willing to exercise “war against them” those they are charged with protecting(real treason).

      If J.M. you need the authority of scripture please carry on, so far I find it negligable in its impact upon myself. I might be a little miffed when or if it becomes entangled into government. Govern means control, which for many is authority, which becomes subjagation. Careful what you wish for.

      Pardon any spelling, grammar or punctutation mistakes.

       
      • J.M.

        March 22, 2014 at 11:14 PM

        Pop, ET AL; The following is a message I sent to moon, aka ECHO EARS & EVERYBODY ELSE;
        J.M.
        March 18, 2014 at 10:00 PM

        For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

        3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

        4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

        5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

        2 Timothy 3:2-5

        We find no reference here to murder, rape, or any other high felony, because Paul is speaking about people in general. He is describing not the criminal minority, but the respectable majority—not the atypical, but the average. Ordinary people in ordinary churches would be egotistical (“lovers of their own selves,” “boasters,” “proud,” “heady,” “highminded”), irreverent (“blasphemers”), materialistic (“covetous” is, literally, “lovers of money”), and hedonistic (“unholy,” “incontinent,” “lovers of pleasures”). They would enjoy few loving relationships, for they would be “disobedient to parents” and “without natural affection.” Yet they would readily make enemies, for they would be “unthankful,” “trucebreakers,” and “traitors.” And they would treat their enemies ruthlessly, for they would be “fierce” and “false accusers.” Being “despisers of those that are good,” they would persecute the righteous.

        Despite this load of wickedness weighing on their souls, they would pretend to be Christians (“having a form of godliness”). But, as Paul observes, they would know nothing of real Christianity. They would be guilty of “denying the power thereof.” The true sense of the word translated “denying” is closer to “rejecting.” That is, they would reject the power of God to change their lives. Instead of aspiring to holiness through divine grace, they would prefer to remain in their filthiness.

        The admonition to the sincere believer in the Last Days is, “From such turn away.” Comfort, reputation, and every other human consideration might urge him to continue in fellowship with hypocrites, but to maintain fellowship with God, and to defend his family from attacks that would spoil their faith, he must make the break. He must turn away. But where should he go? He must attach himself to a band of genuine believers, however small it may be. Having placed himself in a good church, he must work diligently to keep it a good church. He must do his part to weed out corruption and compromise as soon as they appear.

        Pop, ET AL,

        The following is the response to my comment/message above, FROM, moon, aka ECHO EARS;

        moon

        March 18, 2014 at 10:27 PM

        Come on echo, you can rid yourself of this demon. It’s a struggle, I know, but you can do it. I’m cheering for you.” < End of response FROM, "moon" aka ECHO EARS;

        Pop, ET AL, WHY ARE YOU NOT "interested" in ECHO EARS response????!!!!???? Did you not take this into consideration????!!!???

        MOON IS aka ECHO EARS- Worshiper of the IMAGE of SATAN

         
      • EDOMS THORN

        March 23, 2014 at 1:02 PM

        J.M.

        I do have a life beyond …”ASK ADASK”… and I certainly do not read every comment that is made here.

        The way you have written that post I can not discern just what and WHO said WHAT. You appear to have problems with many on here and I do not need to join in with your NONSENSE, to aide in bolstering your EGO!

        Just getting you to respond to what I post to you concerning our discussion is hard enough. Why would I want to engage in something that has nothing to do with me, and then have you avoid or ignore what I say.

        Many times the questions you ask have been answered in the response to you but you do not comprehend what you read very well, if you read it at all, (See your Comment at “Standing Firm” to AL where you admit that you have NOT read it)

         
      • J.M.

        March 23, 2014 at 3:22 AM

        pops,

        @ > If J.M. you need the authority of scripture please carry on.

        Thanks, & thank you for allowing me to carry on. I do have the authority of scripture, & whether you think so or not, I also have the “authority” to proclaim same. How baut em apples. It’s better than hiding same under a bushel basket, don’t you think? Like in, Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick. May I be allowed to do this? Thanks, I thought you would allow that.

        @ >Careful what you wish for.

        You too !!

        Ohhhh Pop, Catch this > @ >Echo Ears says one of his gifts is > “My gift seems to be helping others become pissed off. Yea, at times I’m very good at it,” AND, Echo ears also says,

        @ >The illusion of “god” won’t give you a miracle, AND, Echo Ears also says,

        @ >Smoking, drinking, and partying all night are looking healthier all the time. Maybe I’m still on a buzz here.

        Do you approve of this, Pops?? Echo Ears, aka moon. Want some more ,Pop, et.al. Want some more good echo ear moon programing. I think the worst thing anyone can do is, to try & destroy a mind. May I still carry on, Pop??

         
      • moon

        March 23, 2014 at 12:43 PM

        pop de adam, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.

         
      • J.M.

        March 24, 2014 at 5:35 PM

        pop de adam ,you say,
        moon states:

        “Easy, buddy, you’ll get the demons stirred up again.”

        @> J.M. asks:

        @>“In Who??”
        @ It could be anyone or it might be you.

        Ohhhh It might be ME?? Soooo this is your sly way of saying I have demons too.? ohhhh ok

         
  10. Toland

    March 23, 2014 at 1:50 AM

    moon,

    Please stop feeding the troll, meaning “J.M.” (i.e. Judgment Is Mine), a.k.a. Les Fuchs.

    Les Fuchs, who posts from the Santa Fe area, is a many-times-banned troll who keeps returning based on the misconception that low-content, off-topic, narcissistic and pointless comments are somehow a contribution to Alfred Adask’s brilliantly original blog.

    The best way to handle this problem is to simply not read anything that Les Fuchs posts. Just keep scrolling on. Many others are already doing so. That way you won’t be tempted into the drama of Les Fuchs’ fucktard game.

    It’s up to you, of course, though anything you can do in the way of pooper-scooper duty is appreciated.

     
    • moon

      March 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM

      Toland, thanks for your comments. Are you suggesting that I “opt out”? I knew you’d come to see opting out as a valuable tool.

      Seems to me that the one you’ve referenced has effectively demonstrated what he is and what he is not, regardless of name.

       
      • Toland

        March 23, 2014 at 2:12 PM

        moon, I’ll put it this way:

        If opting out is your thing, and mentally ill soap opera is not, then Les Fuchs is giving you a chance to shine.

         
      • moon

        March 23, 2014 at 2:46 PM

        Toland, in pursuit of clarification and accuracy, is the “u” in Fuchs long or short?

         
      • Toland

        March 23, 2014 at 3:08 PM

        Going by what Les Fuchs has posted at this blog, the “u” is clearly short.

         
  11. Peter

    March 24, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    As we go forward the unfolding events will illustrate the progression deeper into the war cycle already underway. The peace cycle is no longer beneficial for the masters of usury, as this cycle can no longer expand debt levels necessary for debt service thus risking global debt implosion. Inflation engines must be cranked up any way possible even if it risks an expanded hot war. Russia inc. as well as all the country entities inc. are reading their lines as they are instructed. They are all agents for their perspective municipal corporations, Putin especially — ” the borrower is the servant to the lender”.

     
  12. J.M.

    March 24, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    THORN, EDOM, you say,

    @> I do have a life beyond …”ASK ADASK”… and I certainly do not read every comment that is made here.The way you have written that post I can not discern just what and WHO said WHAT. You appear to have problems with many on here and I do not need to join in with your NONSENSE, to aide in bolstering your EGO!

    Greetings, THORN in my side & heart The REASON you & the MANY others you say I have PROBLEMS with, not that YOU have problems with, that I have problems with is BECAUSE of

    Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4

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