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Pope Seeks Re-unification of Catholic and Protestant Churches

06 Apr

A.D. 1997 "Devils Advocate" starring Al Pacino and Keanu Reeves [courtesy Google Images]

A.D. 1997 “Devils Advocate” starring Al Pacino and Keanu Reeves
[courtesy Google Images]

If I understand correctly, in End Times, there’ll be a single, global church that operates under the authority of the Anti-Christ.  Those who don’t join that singular church, will be executed.

Ever since Martin Luther caused a schism between the Catholic church and, what ultimately became thousands of Protestant denominations, the existence of a single, unified and global church seemed unlikely.

However, the following video offers an interesting analysis of a meeting earlier this year when Pope Francis and his Protestant representative Tony Palmer (a South African Bishop with the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches), advocated a single, re-unified Church–presumably under Catholic authority.

I know that you can’t judge a book or a priest by their “covers,” but Tony Palmer’s appearance fascinates.  Slick hair.  Long eyelashes.  Beard.  Unusual eyebrows (did he pluck his eyebrows?).  Charismatic.  I don’t know if I’m watching a priest or a heavy metal rock star.  Palmer may be a great man, but something about that guy creeps me out.  If I were in charge of producing a remake of the A.D. 1997 movie “Devil’s Advocate,” I’d try to cast Bishop Tony Palmer for one of the lead roles.  To me, he looks the part.

The people who advocate this reunification quote the Bible.   The video’s host, Doug Batchelor, is critical of the proposed reunification and also quotes the Bible.  I, too, quote the Bible.  It’s hard to find a cause that can’t be supported with some excerpt from the Bible.

My quote is Matthew 7:13-14 wherein the Messiah declares,

 

“Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby.  For narrow is the gate, and straitened the way, that leadeth unto life, and few are they that find it.”

I understand that verse to mean that the way to salvation is very narrow and limited.  Only a few will find that narrow way.  Only a few will be saved.  I can’t say for sure, but I don’t think a “few” translates into millions or even billions of people.  I think that a “few” means that even most Christians may not be saved.

Most of us will go by the “way” that is “wide” and “broad”.  Most of will follow that “way” because it’s well-traveled by virtually everyone else.  That “wide, broad” way will seem safe to us because we don’t really understand what “way” we’re going, because we don’t independently study and seek that “way”.  Instead, we assume that if we stick with the majority, they must know where we’re going and, therefore, we’ll be OK.  But the Messiah warns in Matthew 7:13-14 that that wide, broad “way” leads to destruction.

There’s an implication in following the “wide, broad” way because we do what other are doing.  We follow “them” because we haven’t personally studied and sought the “way” as individual men and women.  When we follow the herd, we’re fakin’ it–and our Father YHWH ha Elohiym will not be deceived.

Although the phrase “few are they that find it” doesn’t clearly say so, that phrase implies that if you “find” the way to salvation, you’ll find it all by yourself based on your own searching and study.  If so, you won’t find the “way” by attending the church with the most members, best parking and biggest, flashing neon sign on the steeple.

If the way to salvation is as narrow as Matthew 7:13-14 suggests, most of us–even most of us who profess to be Christians–may fail to find salvation.

To me, that suggests that anyone who joins a single, massive, and possibly global church will be be unlikely to achieve salvation.  I’m not saying that members of a big church can’t be saved, but I am saying that those who rely strictly on the theology and ritual of any one, massive church may be deceived and doomed. I suspect that each man’s salvation depends as much or more on his personal determination to privately search for God, rather than on his choice to embrace one giant church’s rituals rather than another’s.

The idea of searching for God on our own is scary.  To do so literally bets your eternal life on your personal ability find God.  How many of us have enough courage (or faith) to dare to make that bet?  But, if the big churches can only guide us to the “wide way,” how will we find salvation unless we move forward on our own?

Worse, anyone who’s an adult and reasonably sane knows how easily he can deceive himself.  How can we know that our “private search” is truly leading to God rather than some comforting self-delusion?

I don’t think we can know.  I think we have to proceed in a blind faith where we do not know, but we believe that the Good LORD will finally guide us to the narrow “way” and so we keep putting one foot in front of the other.

I also suspect that the narrow “way” is not so much an obscure destination (like Highway 75 or Route 66) as it is each man’s persistent search.

I’m not arguing that my suspicions are true.  I’m simply saying that’s the way I see it at this time.

But I am arguing that if the “narrow way” leads to salvation for only a few, it seems to follow that the “wide way” followed by many members of the biggest churches would probably lead towards destruction.

I’m not saying that any church can’t be helpful in your search for the “narrow way”.  Every church can tell us something about the God we’re looking for.   But I am saying that your salvation may depend primarily on the persistence of your search, outside your church, for that “narrow way” to salvation.

If any of my analysis is roughly correct, it might follow that the last place a true Christian would allow himself to be in End Times, would be as a member of the one, unified, global church.  The Good LORD will be found in the little churches and private prayers.

So here’s the video of the Catholic Pope and Episcopalian Bishop implicitly advocating a one, unified, global church.  I don’t expect to see such church for at least another 2 or 3 years (maybe more).  But, insofar as that one, global church is now officially advocated, it strikes me that we may be even closer to End Times.

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108 responses to “Pope Seeks Re-unification of Catholic and Protestant Churches

  1. pop de adam

    April 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    There is an interesting read that relates quite well to what I believe to what you maybe describing here.

    In a book titled The Brothers Karamazov by Fydor Dostevsky in book five or perhaps chapter five there is a parable/allegory about how Jesus makes an appearance in Seville, Spain at the time when the Inquisituion was active there. It is often titled “The Grand Inquisitor”. It is easy to find on the internet. It made me ponder the difference between a church and actual belief/faith. As Fydor was Russian, these are translations.

    links:

    https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/pol116/grand.htm

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/8578/8578-h/8578-h.htm

    Please disregard if these are irrelevant.

     
  2. J.M.

    April 6, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    @ >I think you have an excellent analysis. As for me, I am going to hold FAST to your analysis. BUT,coming FROM me, maybe it will tend to make you have 2nd thoughts

    When we follow the herd, we’re fakin’ it–and our Father YHWH ha Elohiym will not be deceived.
    THERE YOU GO !!! > YHWH ha Elohiym will not be deceived.

    @ > I suspect that each man’s salvation depends as much or more on his personal determination
    to privately search for God, rather than on his choice to embrace one giant church’s rituals rather than another’s.

    @ >The idea of searching for God on our own is scary.

    Psalm 51< Understanding Psalm 51 is a good place to start IF anyone is "own his/her own as I am."
    ESPECIALLY, Create in me a pure heart, O God,and renew a steadfast spirit within me.

    IF you received a response to your message like this, how would it have made you feel & think?

    Come on echo, you can rid yourself of this demon. It’s a struggle, I know, but you can do it. I’m cheering for you.
    —————————————————————————————————————————

     
    • J.M.

      April 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM

      @ > When we follow the herd, we’re fakin’ it–and our Father YHWH ha Elohiym will not be deceived.

      THERE YOU GO !!! > YHWH ha Elohiym will not be deceived.

      There is “some truth” in the phrase, it’s not the knowers, but the doers. BUT, this depends on HOW it’s DONE. If it is not done with respect & gratitude & humbleness, it is doing something in VAIN. I am here to say I’m talking about worshiping YHWH ha Elohiym, & HOW we do this. YHWH ha Elohiym ALSO takes into consideration what we KNOW. It REALLY does live in the heart. This IS what he looks upon. When I make LOW content remarks to another, it’s because THEY make low comments about the Elohim, OR you. WHEN I am called swine for trying to bring honor to YHWH ha Elohiym, I take this to mean it IS YHWH ha Elohiym they are calling swine. I do not like this. NO !!! I just do not. I “see” “some” people belittling you too. I don’t know IF they know they are. STILL, It peeves me off. You have more depth of perception than I can ever hope to have, still, I know what I “see” and I try to respond accordingly.

       
  3. lady4liberty

    April 6, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    I just finished reading a book that sent chills down my spine. It was published in 2012 and being a catholic it first aroused my curiosity. Then after reading it and watching the news, it greatly concerned me as some of the things written that told of the plans the Catholic Church had, were taking place. Prior to reading the book, I have had concerns about the new pope because he is a Jesuit and reading history and hearing/seeing how these priest act and speak, a red flag came up in my concern about the church. The new Pope Francis has said some things that have concerned me as well. The name of the book is “Romanus Peteras, the Last Pope”. Tom Horn is one of the authors and you may be able to get a good condition copy on Amazon. It is a fairly lengthy read, but read it ….. you must.

    >

     
  4. moon

    April 6, 2014 at 5:53 PM

    Does anyone see a “church” cult in the video? Does anyone think it will produce a miracle? Could the “god” illusion be alive and thriving?

     
    • J.M.

      April 10, 2014 at 4:51 AM

      moon, my kissin cousin,
      @ Does anyone see a “church” cult in the video? Does anyone think it will produce a miracle? Could the “god” illusion be alive and thriving?

      It WAS my understanding that this blog IS a church. IS IT? or WAS it? I am at a loss to understand how this blog IS NOT a Church of confusion when I consider just a FEW of the many messages allowed to appear in this Church, i.e. this blog. Help me to understand what I am not understanding. Is it ME, or is it some others & me? I can understand some of the comments being allowed on ANY other threads EXCEPT The “Holy Bible discussion threads.” What am I failing to understand? deb, in case you might be reading this, when I said Thanks NEIGHBOR, I meant as Yeshua said what a “neighbor” IS, i.e. the Good Samaritan, the ONE & ONLY ONE who had pity. I know it is written in the Gospel of Luke, but I forget the Chapter & verses.

       
      • deb

        April 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM

        JM
        Psalm 1

        1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

        2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

        3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

        4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

        5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

        6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

         
    • J.M.

      April 12, 2014 at 7:48 AM

      moon,
      You say you have a good way of peeving people off. I have a pretty good way of making some people back off or just outright SHUTUP, doancha think? Are we still friends?? Kissin cousins, at least?? I could not get the last 4 words “meaning”. > My hot rod Lincoln < I don't "get it." You said listen to the last 4 words. All I heard was, My hot rod Lincoln. This is probably where my 6th grade formal education is failing me. I ain't PROUD. It doesn't bother me at all to say I am not EDUCATED. But, if you will, tell me what I am missing, in not getting the "hint" in the last 4 words, i.e., My Hot Rod Lincoln, I will be most grateful.

       
  5. Henry

    April 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    From the same chapter as the narrow and wide gates:

    Matthew 7:1-5 Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

    Matthew 7:21-23 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

     
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 7:39 PM

      Henry
      April 6, 2014 at 6:26 PM

      @ > From the same chapter as the narrow and wide gates: Matthew 7:1-5 Judge not, that you be not judged.
      ———————————
      Standing Firm Thread

      Henry
      March 24, 2014 at 4:35 PM
      EDOMS THORN:

      “Do you have any idea what “IT” is trying to accomplish? One thing that I see is he is trying to demonize the truth and truth tellers.”

      I agree. The internet is unfortunately known for this type of thing. The difference in this case is that Les Fuchs, alias J.M. at the moment, consistently crosses the line into personal attacks that justify a ban.“EVIL hates truth and when evil can not refute truth with facts, it resorts to ridicule and slander.”
      Exactly. I’ve been thinking of this troll’s problem as a serious case of infantile narcissism, a mental illness. Now that you mention it, “evil” is probably a better fit. Evil with manipulative deceit.
      ——————————————
      I, J.M. am the IT referred to

      @ > Evil with manipulative deceit.

      No doubt about that.

       
      • J.M.

        April 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM

        In other words, Henry puts in Holy Bible Scriptures, Matthew 7:1-5,& in pertinent part; Matthew 7:1-5 Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

        Edoms Thorn says, > Do you have any idea what “IT” is trying to accomplish? One thing that I see is he is trying to demonize the truth and truth tellers.”

        Henry says in response to Edoms Thorn, & about me, J.M.> I agree. The internet is unfortunately known for this type of thing. The difference in this case is that Les Fuchs, alias J.M. at the moment, consistently crosses the line into personal attacks that justify a ban.“EVIL hates truth and when evil can not refute truth with facts, it resorts to ridicule and slander.”
        Exactly. I’ve been thinking of this troll’s problem as a serious case of infantile narcissism, a mental illness. Now that you mention it, “evil” is probably a better fit. Evil with manipulative deceit. Then Henry follows up by “using” or quoting scripture, Matthew 7:1-5, in pertinent part; > J”udge not, that you be not judged.”

        Yes indeed Henry, & Edoms Thorn, ET. AL, .“EVIL DOES hate truth and when evil can not refute truth with facts, it, YOU, Henry & Edoms Thorn, et.al ALL of you resort to ridicule and slander.”

         
      • Glenn Jacobsen

        April 18, 2016 at 6:44 AM

        The Lord also command`s us to be serious minded

         
  6. J.M.

    April 6, 2014 at 7:00 PM

    Aliens are Demons, Tom Horn, and, L.A. Marzulli

    moon
    March 8, 2014 at 8:23 PM Robert Boomer Steed thread,

    moon says

    Wouldn’t it be prudent for an alien to first comprehend the nature of being an alien?
    Then, wouldn’t communicating the fact of being an alien to a “judge”, for instance,
    be resisting the effort of coercion into the govco fold?

    “For Instance?” Only?
    There IS such a thing as artificial intellect, aka Art-tillect.
    We have all “kinds” of, ARTISTS

    Forbidden Gates, written by Tom & Nita Horn.”God” forbid that ANYONE read this book, OR, watch the You Tube Video
    of Forbidden Gates, with Tom Horn.

     
  7. J.M.

    April 6, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Palmer says, To TURN the hearts of the sons to the “Father.” The Pope is a.k.a., The “Holy Father.” Which “Father” is Palmer speaking of???
    I bet EVERY soul in the congregation Understood every word the “Reverend” Kenneth Copeland said. WHO is the author of confusion? moon & Henry knows & so do a few more. THEY will soon be making their appearance.

     
    • pop de adam

      April 6, 2014 at 8:27 PM

      J.M. in your opinion why is there an antagonist versus protagonist conflict between our lord and the lord of darkness(or light if you wish)? If the true lord is here, he must have also created this other lord. Why, If he approves of us would he dog us with such? If he dogs us so, is he worthy any admiration at all?

      I will venture a guess, without either there is no controversy… Nothing to talk about, no fact to arrive at?.

      Could it be that there is but one that will mislead?

      Take no offense from this J.M.

      I have no idea who Palmer is.

       
      • J.M.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:21 PM

        Pops,

        You are not trying to get the demons you “said” I have in me aroused, are you, pops??

        @ > Take no offense from this J.M.

        I’m not.

        @ > I have no idea who Palmer is.

        I understand.

         
  8. timmy

    April 6, 2014 at 8:22 PM

    Prelude to the final thrust into the endtime events. Bone up on Revelation and Daniel my friends… it’s coming down, and the final events will be swift and relentless.

     
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 12:34 AM

      timmy,

      @ > Bone up on Revelation and Daniel my friends

      People think it’s more important to bone up on accumulating a little money, OR if they do read Revelation & Daniel, the understanding they get from it is better start accumulating a little bread, i.e., gold, silver, etc. I SEE something entirely different. But beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What is meat for one is poison for another.

       
  9. Tony

    April 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    just saw the entire video – intense.

    My own discernment is that the whole performance was radically deviant from being “truth” and it is even astonishing to me that this would not be immediately apparent to anyone who is not inclined to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

     
    • moon

      April 6, 2014 at 9:01 PM

      Tony, the Brooklyn Bridge has value and I’d be inclined to buy it at the right price. A “church” cult, however, has a severely negative value, in my opinion.

       
      • Tony

        April 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        Well, my point, Moon, is that I was referring to an idiom whose intended interpretation is someone trying to fleece someone else through peddling something that is not for sale.

         
      • moon

        April 7, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        Tony, for clarity, would you state the “idiom” you were referring to?

         
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 7:54 PM

      Tony
      April 6, 2014 at 8:24 PM

      just saw the entire video – intense.

      My own discernment is that the whole performance was radically deviant from being “truth” and it is even astonishing to me that this would not be immediately apparent to anyone who is not inclined to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.
      ———————————
      I, J.M. thank deb for posting the HI REV COPE video. The response below IS “another” Tony message referring to me, J.M.

      Tony
      March 26, 2014 at 3:58 AM
      I think the poor dude is seriously and substantially mentally ill.
      Would kinda explain things, wouldn’t it?

       
      • Tony

        April 12, 2014 at 8:38 AM

        What do you mean by “another” J.M.? Absolutely, the post you cite at the end of your post is referring to you.

        What “other” post did I write that you assume refers to you?

         
    • J.M.

      April 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

      Tony,
      @ > What do you mean by “another” J.M.? Absolutely, the post you cite at the end of your post is referring to you.

      Thanks Tony for the opportunity for me, J.M., to be more specific. On the standing firm thread, Edom Thorn says;

      EDOMS THORN
      March 25, 2014 at 10:08 AM
      J.M.
      Why don’t you do us a favor and follow in the foot steps of “JUDAS” and your “FRIENDS”?
      ———————-
      You, Tony, respond by saying, right under the message from E.T.;
      Tony
      March 26, 2014 at 3:58 AM
      I think the poor dude is seriously and substantially mentally ill.
      Would kinda explain things, wouldn’t it?
      ————————–
      Tony, I KNOW what your NEXT move/response IS, WILL BE, have the answer to that too.

       
  10. J.M.

    April 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM

    YES, The HOG of this blog IS back again.
    This BABEL tongue message by the HARD to COPE with HI REV COPELAND
    I gahroan T you IS a known tongue, and IF anyone can get the recording of it
    & IF anyone knows of anyone that understands several languages, have him/her
    translate it into ENGLISH, AND, I GAH ROAN TEE you, It will be some of the FILTHIEST
    speech you cannot even imagine. GUARANTEED !!!

     
    • moon

      April 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM

      J.M., you’re smoking the good stuff tonight, aren’t you?

       
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 1:08 AM

        moon
        April 7, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        @ > Though I’m not sure I’d want to give a dime for a dozen like him, I’d give at least a buck and a half for J.M.

        WOW !!! This statement DOES make me want to kiss you. You are saying I am a goldmine. WHY?? See, I know what I am worth & it’s because I am not worth a plugged nickel. But remember, when I say kiss, this WAS a way of greeting each other once upon a time. It may still be. IF it was the handshake, “back then,” this IS how Judas would have identified the Messiah, it will be the man I shake hand’s with, & The Messiah would have replied, Judas, why do you betray me with a handshake? Once upon a time, a handshake sealed a transaction or an agreement. I love palani, but I don’t think palani approves of handshakes. BUT, I bet palani has good reasons for “feeling” this way. It IS really getting down to becoming a ONE on or with ONE understanding. I AM alone, BUT, I AM NOT LONELY. I want to follow up more, on your comment later. But, see, moon, I remember how you & I started out, or SHORTLY right after we started out. You asked me, How am I doing? I responded, I think you are doing just great. This is how it starts out with everyone I corresponded with.Everything somewhere down the road went to pieces. Bob Hurt IS the only one that did not belittle & ridicule me. But, as usual, our exchanges just stopped. I posed a question that made it stop. Nothing I say matters, it’s the things I say at times that are not my sayings.BUT, I have A LOT to learn too. This is what scares me. Personally, I think I do a pretty good job of trying to be fair WHEN I do have a SHORT FUSE to begin with. I don.t mean to pass the buck but it stems from to much belittlement I received as a child & my Boots on the ground < Front line experience with the gov-co did not help either. Funny thing, ALL of my boot on the ground ordeals with gov-co was because I was trying to help others, until they got fed up with it & then started coming after me. THEN I could not help anyone else. I had A FULL & overflowing plate myself. moon, please don't hit me with anymore of this demon & Satan remarks, PLEASE, I do not know how to handle it. It discourages me beyond words to even try to explain. Now let's kiss & make up., Better still, let's shake hands. Everything I am posting lately is going through, ALL of it.

         
      • J.M.

        April 14, 2014 at 9:04 PM

        moon,
        @ >STOP IT! STOP IT!

        RIGHT !!! Lessus ROCK. We cooking now. I love harmony. Hey moon, get EDOMS THORN off my back. He is going to force me into saying something that will get me banned. I believe that everything in our life we have said & done is STORED in what is called the subconscious mind. There are a lot of things stored in mine that I wish were not. Sometimes these ugly things come to the surface via goading, mocking, me, OR especially my “God” or some other well meaning poster As if you did not know what I am talking about. You know what moon, I think Alfred wishes I would just go away. I wish I REALLY knew this. No problem for me to just disappear. I don’t want to be where I am not wanted anyway. Sometimes I cannot see the forest for the trees either. BUT, as long as I can do what I think is right & proper to bring honor to My “God,” as tho he needs it, B.S., I will do my utmost to do so anyway. I got the BALLS to do it too. I don’t want to bring shame to my “God” But it pisses me off beyond words to even try to explain how it makes my blood boil to see ANYONE using “eloquent” messages when they are DECEITFUL, really. It makes my blood BOIL to see ANYONE belittling another commenter WHEN the message given has the ring of truth in it. IF in my heart & mind Alfred Adask says something I understand is out of line, I will let him know too. BUT I will explain to him HOW I am understanding his message & IF my understanding is correct, THEN I will TRY to put in a food for thought question. I am not a YES man. I TRY not to be wishy washy. IF I am understanding you, moon, now, it seems there are only 3 of us who care & give a damn. BUT, when it comes to an understanding of the overall purpose of our life, it seems like Alfred & I are the ONLY TWO who understand a little more than some others. THEN they want to get huffy & start trying to let us know how wrong we are, like Martens, Jetlag, Sam, Toland, Roger, Henry, Tony, Bobby G, EDOMS THORN, & OTHERS. Either I, or EDOMS THORN is crusin for a brusin. I doubt that mt low content response to him, E.T. will be allowed to post anyway. Alfred if you want me off your blog just go ahead & ban me. No problem.

         
      • J.M.

        April 15, 2014 at 12:44 PM

        moon
        April 6, 2014 at 10:33 PM

        @ > J.M., you’re smoking the good stuff tonight, aren’t you?

        How did you “already know” that the Hi REV Babel was not very nice except for the save 15 % on Geico Insurance part?

         
    • deb

      April 7, 2014 at 11:57 AM

      Here you go JM
      Translation

       
      • Tony

        April 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM

        is that really what Copeland’s word translate to?

        dude looks like a demon to me and I am dead serious.

         
      • moon

        April 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM

        Tony, I’m with you on your use of the word “intense”…especially now that we know Copeland is a Geico pitchman. Wonder if the Pope knows he can save money…STOP IT! STOP IT! That settles it…I’m buying the Brooklyn Bridge!

         
      • J.M.

        April 9, 2014 at 11:04 PM

        wow, Thanks deb.Thank you. Even tho I was wrong about the degree of filthiness,
        I “imagined,” it did at least show that the “prayer” was not very nice.
        I had no idea what The HI REV COPE prayer said. It really peeved me
        off listening to the BABEL. That “still small voice” said, “ugly.”
        Since” my “God” is a “gentleman” & does not use foul language
        I thought it was his way of telling me it was FILTHY beyond words to describe.
        This is my fault. I should have used the word, ugly.
        Thanks for coming to my rescue, deb. Thank you for getting a point across
        that I could not. Thank you for not letting me be alone.Thanks “NEIGHBOR.”

        COPE say, Ohhhhhhh glory glory glory, C’moan, the man asked us to pray for em.
        “Father” the man asked us to pray for him.
        Ohhhhhhh Father, Father we answer his “reee-quay-yust.”
        & since we no not how to pray for him as we ought,
        & & & AGREE with him in his quest, & & & his his HEART & & &
        for the unity of the body of Christ. We come together in the unity of “our faith.”
        We pray for him in the “spirit” We receive “UTTERANCE” blah blah blah
        Hallelujah.” yeah right, HI REV COPE, Hallelujah.
        Notice the “tone” of his voice when HI – REV says, Hallelujah
        This “utterance” was from one of the high ranking demons. One of the
        intelligent demons. OR, as E.T. would say, EDUCATED.
        I’m thinking WHO CARES about the ECHOES that echoed throughout
        the house. All the echoes spewed at me were noticed I betcha. WHO
        CARED about that? Most IF not ALL LOVED “the echoes” directed to me.

        “Reverend” Copeland says, > Lord of darkness, I pray for MAXIMUS

        Maximus (Hellenised as Maximos) is the Latin term for “greatest” or “largest”.
        In this connection it is used to refer to: Circus MaximusMaximus (Hellenised as Maximos) is the Latin term for “greatest” or “largest”.
        In this connection it is used to refer to: Circus Maximus

        A good example of how Satan does tell the truth, ………sometimes.

        Also, who noticed the “shave & a haircut 2 bits” COPE, did, performed, with his two hands, on the Holy Bible

        P.S. deb, I believe “God” makes exceptions for certain things he requires.
        I am aware of a scripture or two that says so.Since there are obviously
        NO REAL MEN proclaiming the “Gospel” & Women are the ONLY other ones willing too, I think under
        the circumstances, he approves of women teaching the wimps aka weaklings, aka MEN. Soooo let er RIP, deb
        I’m Serious. Everything IS ASS BACKWARDS anyway. I WILL come to your RESCUE whwn the “CHRISTIANS”
        start belittling & ridiculing you, i.e., as long as I’m ALLOWED too. We “need” to remember that there are no
        personality clashes permitted but this depends on WHO is clashing with who.

        BTW. On two other videos, HI REV COPE says, JESUS TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF GOD’S PEOPLE < No translation required
        The COPE says THIS in ENGLISH

        & Jesus IS a, M……er. F………er. < COPE says this, in the "spirit." This can be known by what you provided. The video you provided has OTHERS from The HIGH REVEREND.
        ————————————————–

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 10:34 AM

        deb,
        I did not say,> @ >Sadly, the Catholic Church, being a powerful, global institution, has been infiltrated But I support unity among Christian individuals. < Joan of Arc said this. I tried to answer Joan of Arc. Just trying to keep things straight here, in hopes we both understand where each other is coming from.

         
      • deb

        April 10, 2014 at 10:43 AM

        I know you didn’t write that, JM, i was responding to your post to JOArc. really responding to her.

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        deb,
        Thanks again, for the 2nd video. A tragic truth video. I say this based on my understanding as I “try” to do on everything I say, except when I am playing around, like I did two times with Bob Hurt, & then it was only to try & insert a little humor. Anyway, I hope this is not puzzling as to why I said this. Another commenter asked, re: the 1st video you made available, Did Copeland really say that, or, if I have to be technical, he asked “is that really what Copeland’s word translate to?” The point, I want to make, IS, per the 2nd video, IF IF IF anyone else watched & LISTENED to it, will some ask, is this video really true? Keep up the good work,deb. Help me with my shortcomings. Make them known to me. I need to know. BUT, I need to know from someone who truly cares & does help me out of love, not hate. I get enough of that “kind of help.” You,deb, posted, in pertinent part: “Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,” Here is a problem I am having. I see & hear what I deem to be “Godly Counsel” but I also see & hear Ungodly counsel, on this blog. Therefore, I am at a total loss as to what to do about this. I have gone to MANY churches in my life as I need “fellowship” too. BUT, when I start to ask a question or two to the pastors, about the Bible & & re: a doctrine,etc or two EVERYONE answered the same way, e.g. I understand EXACTLY what you are saying Jim, but If I start preaching “that” I will eventually lose all of my following. So, I just moved on & I am still moving on. Thanks again deb. Understanding what “LOVE” means the WAY the Elohim understand the word “love” sure helps. We need to understand what the word ANGRY means TOO, the way the Elohim do, TOO.

         
      • deb

        April 10, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        @Understanding what “LOVE” means the WAY the Elohim understand the word “love” sure helps.

        Yahweh Adonai is the epitome of love.

        Isaiah 53
        He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

        But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

        He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

        And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

        @We need to understand what the word ANGRY means TOO,…

        Prov.14:17 He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly: and a man of wicked devices is hated.

        Prov.29:22 An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.

        Ecc. 7:9 Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

        Eph.4:26,27 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil.

         
      • Joel

        April 10, 2014 at 2:02 PM

        Deb & JM you mentioned an interesting challenge that people looking for the truth will always encounter: which is the greater virtue, to maintain that individuals “following”or to become swallowed up in doing the will of the Lord by following only him. That is the dilemma and answer why there is a never ending increase in churches and preachers each saying come and follow me.

        In consequence of this phenomenon in the world every person seeking the truth must go to the best source they know of, learn, apply, seek confirmation
        Of the Spirit of truth, until that discipleship proves true and faithful in guiding him in living the ways of the Lord or eventually leads to some other way. The Lord said my sheep hear my voice and follow me.

        Follow is to act. In acting that is in applying the particular gospel one is choosing to follow confirmation either does or does not occur repeatedly to confirm the disciples chosen path as one of righteousness leading to the blessings and promises: the companionship of the Holy Spirit, enjoying peace, having personal revelation to help eliminate and overcome the vexations of life, having the word of God to guide you in your mind and your heart always, finding joy in your life and your relationships, actively participating and fellow shipping with brothers and sisters who recognize our relationship as sons and daughters of God, and observing the unmistakable manifestations of the blessings of God in your daily life, these signs should follow the followers of the path chosen if it is the path the Savior walked.
        A prophet of God said “it came to pass that I beheld the church of the lamb of God and it’s numbers were few, nevertheless I beheld that the church of the lamb who were the saints of God were also upon all the face of the earth and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small.”
        While we may be small in number yet we may be compared with the leaven of which the Savior spoke which will eventually leaven or lift the whole world.

        Joel

         
      • deb

        April 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM

        Joel–Yo’el,–nice name, it means Yahweh is Elohim,

        @…every person seeking the truth must go to the best source they know of, learn, apply, seek confirmation Of the Spirit of truth, until that discipleship proves true and faithful in guiding him in living the ways of the Lord or eventually leads to some other way. The Lord said my sheep hear my voice and follow me.

        @That is the dilemma and answer why there is a never ending increase in churches and preachers each saying come and follow me.

        If i’m hearing you correctly, you are saying that truth is relative, and that any source of “truth” regardless of whose “truth” it is, it’s all good, as long as one is doing their best in following that “truth” even if it conflicts with the spoken Word of Yahweh.

        Either one hears the the voice of Yahshua and follows Him, or one doesn’t. Sheep only hear the voice of their shepherds.

        Jn. 8:12 “Then spake Yahshua again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM

        deb,
        P.S. When I said, Understanding what “LOVE” means the WAY the Elohim understand the word “love” sure helps. We need to understand what the word ANGRY means TOO, the way the Elohim do, TOO. I meant EVERYBODY, not just you & I.

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 5:48 PM

        deb,
        Great message to Joel.I hear you too.

        @We need to understand what the word ANGRY means TOO,…

        I believe I said, We need to understand what the word ANGRY means TOO, the “way” the Elohim do, TOO. “The “way” The Elohim do.

        Like this, for example; > Psalm 5:5 Arrogant people cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who behave wickedly.

        In Psalm 5:5 it says: “The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity”. Notice it did NOT say He hated only the sin and not the sinner, like most preachers would have us believe.”

        In Malachi 1:2-3 says: “I loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esua Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob and I hated Esua….” This same Old Testament text is referred to in the New Testament in Romans 9:13. Really for anyone to get the whole picture I recommend starting at least in Romans 9:11-24.

        One other text Matthew 7:23 says: “And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Some people might be thinking what in the world does this verse have to do with God’s love or hate? The word “knew” in that verse means affection or love. First of all, compare this verse with one we already looked at: Psalm 5:5 that said God hated all workers of iniquity. Very similar language is use in Matt 7:23 referring to iniquity. In other words if this person in Matt 7 was accused of being a worker of iniquity, then according to my understanding I apply Psalm 5:5, “God” hates ALL who behave wickedly. I need to know HOW I have behaved wickedly.

         
      • deb

        April 10, 2014 at 7:22 PM

        Yes it is a sobering fact that Yahweh hates iniquity=evil, wickedness, sin because He is a holy and righteous Yah, but Yahweh who’s is rich in mercy for His great love wherewith He loved us, even when we dead in sins has He quickened us together with Messiah, by His grace. Eph.2

        Proverbs 6
        16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
        17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
        18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
        19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

        @ I need to know HOW I have behaved wickedly.

        Do you have a conscience? Does the Spirit bear witness with your spirit that you are a son of Yah? Then 1John 1:9 is always good.

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 8:20 PM

        deb,
        @ I need to know HOW I have behaved wickedly.

        Thanks for allowing me to correct myself. I HAVE behaved wickedly in the past. I want to know from anybody HOW I behave wickedly NOW. I probably do & just don’t see it. I’m sure it’s easy for some other people to see it, like in the message to me from, Roger, on this thread. I don’t want people like Roger going to the trouble of telling me how filthy I am & how wrong I am. By the way, I think I know who the 14 year old boy is that Joel spoke of. Joel may have answered my question, & I have overlooked it. I like these exchanges between you & me deb, at least so far. What I don’t like IS ANYBODY telling me I am WRONG & when I ask him/her HOW am I wrong & the answer back IS YOU JUST ARE THAT’S WHY. This doesn’t help me. Did you by chance see the other videos where the “Reverend” Copeland spoke. Like the one at the, “prayer cabin?”

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 8:22 PM

        deb,
        @ > Do you have a conscience?
        Apparently not.

         
      • J.M.

        April 11, 2014 at 1:51 AM

        deb,
        @ > 1John 1:9
        @ > 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

        WE ?? I don’t think the “we” includes those who go to a “Father” & say Father bless me Father for I have sinned. The “God” I want to please tells me that sinning reaps curses, not blessings. The “we” I am aware of are those of us who at least understand the elementary BASICS of what “God” requires & even then “we” are going to stumble, sin, every now & then. BUT, IF we want to STILL TRY to start over again & TRY HARDER not to commit the SAME sin, “we” will be forgiven & HELPED by the “God” I am aware of. deb you show scriptures that say an angry man stirs up strife. Tell me, deb, what IS righteous indignation? AND, Vengeance IS MINE saith the LORD. Does this mean if someone insults you & belittles you, better still, IF you have a child, & someone instructs your child NOT to pray, AS YOU have instructed your child to pray, then forget about being angry with what the one who instructs your child not to pray, & tells your child that praying IS NOT GOOD, then don’t be angry with the instructor, as this will be stirring up strife, in fact just let it go on as it is because the vengeance is left up to “God” to handle. Is this what is meant by stirring up or not stirring up strife, & the meaning of vengeance is mine saith the LORD ? oh ok. We all have a different understanding apparently of just about everything written in the Holy Bible. I don’t get angry with people not understanding the same as I do. People become angry with me for not understanding the same as they do tho. Indeed they do. AND they are the same ones that preach, an angry man stirs up strife. deb, do you by chance have access to a video you can post that explains what the abolished at the cross Holy days mean, excuse me, once meant? The Holy Days that Moses was instructed to teach the “Children of Israel” about? The ones that say are for a perpetual covenant & to observe them throughout your generations? ID so, I like history, & sure would be most grateful if you can post a video re: these Holy Days. Ii doesn’t matter that they were abolished. I would just like to know what they meant & the purpose of them before they became nailed to the cross. Thanks deb

         
      • deb

        April 11, 2014 at 12:17 PM

        The only thing that was nailed to the STAKE was:

        Cols. 2:14 Blotting out THE HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

        Are Yawheh’s laws (10 commandments) contrary to us?

        by the way, Yahshuah wasn’t nailed to a cross. The cross has its origin in babylonian and egyptian idolatry.

         
      • J.M.

        April 11, 2014 at 6:49 PM

        Shalom,deb,

        Because of trickery & deceit directed to me in prior message from others, I have to say some things the way I do & I do so for a good reason. So far, what you have posted is at least, hopefully, food for thought for SOMEBODY. deb, I, for one,appreciate what you have posted. Now what I am about to post & hopefully it will ALL go through, I want you,deb, if you can, post a link to a video that will explain the following. Also, in case you “may” not be aware of it, I believe the following IS STILL valid & BINDING. So far, deb what is transpiring is & by what you are posting, is, GOOD, from what I “see.”

        By the way, NEIGHBORS, < ha ha, the following IS NOT JEWISH. They are instructions to the HOUSE of ISRAEL.

        God's eternal plan God's eternal plan God's eternal plan are revealed in the meaning of "God's" HOLY DAYS. They ARE NOT MOSES HOLY DAYS, THEY ARE NOT JEWISH HOLY DAYS.

        It was on Mount Sinai that God gave Moses the dates and observances of the seven feasts. Here are their names:

        Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15
        Unleavened Bread (Chag Hamotzi) – Nisan 15-22
        First Fruits (Yom habikkurim) – Nisan 16-17
        Pentecost (Shavu'ot) – Sivan 6-7
        Trumpets (Yom Teru'ah) – Tishri 1
        Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10

        deb, can you post a link to a video that explains what these "Feast Days" & the Passover MEANS?

        I know what they mean but a video explaining what they mean will be helpful to HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY ELSE.

         
      • deb

        April 12, 2014 at 11:25 AM

        Shabbat Shalom

        @deb, can you post a link to a video that explains what these “Feast Days” & the Passover MEANS?

        I’m sorry i don’t, but i’m sure there are some on youtube.

        There are seven feasts, you forgot the feast of booths.

         
      • J.M.

        April 11, 2014 at 11:14 PM

        deb,
        I cannot find a red lettered reply button to reply back to you so I have to scroll back to the only one I can find. I want you to be careful of responding at all to some of these posters, for example,

        Tony says on this thread

        Tony

        April 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM

        is that really what Copeland’s word translate to?

        dude looks like a demon to me and I am dead serious.
        ——————————————————————–
        deb, Tony says the following about me,on the Standing Firm thread

        Tony
        March 26, 2014 at 3:58 AM
        I think the poor dude is seriously and substantially mentally ill.
        Would kinda explain things, wouldn’t it?
        ———————————-
        deb, the poor dude Tony is referring to is, ME,aka, J.M.

         
      • J.M.

        April 12, 2014 at 1:24 AM

        deb,
        @ > re Yawheh’s laws (10 commandments) contrary to us?

        NO !!! Are the Holy days & the Passover contrary to us?? e.g.,
        Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15
        Unleavened Bread (Chag Hamotzi) – Nisan 15-22
        First Fruits (Yom habikkurim) – Nisan 16-17
        Pentecost (Shavu’ot) – Sivan 6-7
        Trumpets (Yom Teru’ah) – Tishri 1
        Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10

        Why do people see or hear “TONE” in Atonement BUT cannot see or hear > At-ONE-ment? Remember The Messiah aka Yeshua, Yahshuah & many other variations of names saying to HIS & OUR Father, I pray that THEY become ONE as WE ARE ONE? A Tone can produce an echo too.
        At- ONE-ment, produces a complete WHOLENESS.

        @ > by the way, Yahshuah wasn’t nailed to a cross. The cross has its origin in babylonian and egyptian idolatry.

        I am not interested in the execution symbol, whether it is identified as a tree, stake, or a T cross. IF it WAS the ELECTRIC CHAIR would people be wearing tiny electric chairs on a gold chain around their necks?

         
      • J.M.

        April 12, 2014 at 3:35 PM

        deb, in your message to Joel, you say in pertinent part,

        @ > If i’m hearing you correctly, you are saying that truth is relative, and that any source of “truth” regardless of whose “truth” it is, it’s all good, as long as one is doing their best in following that “truth” even if it conflicts with the spoken Word of Yahweh.

        deb, you heard correctly. We, you & I both heard correctly.

         
      • J.M.

        April 12, 2014 at 7:54 PM

        deb,
        @ > There are seven feasts, you forgot the feast of booths.

        RIGHT !! aka Feast of Tabernacles

        Thank you, deb, No one else caught that, did they. Does this tell you anything? I love to be shown when I make errors, omissions, &/or where I am wrong. SEE, this helps me, & I am grateful for your help, yes indeed. I never could have found the video you did post. I am so glad you knew how to find it. MANY years ago, I attended a “tent revival” meeting & just by chance I was with a man who understood & spoke many languages. He was my mentor in a way. When the “preacher” started praying in a “tongue” my mentor seemed stunned, he said let’s get out of here. He said later the “tongue” this preacher spoke in, I forget now, but anyway, he said it was the filthiest language he had ever heard. I won’t say what he told me. I don’t think anyone would believe it anyway, at least most people would not. I cannot find what I want too most of the time video wise. I don’t know how, I guess. Some things I can bring up tho. ANYWAY, I’m sure if anyone is interested, he/she can locate more information on & about the meaning of the Holy Convocations of YHWH. Today, people know what “vacation” means, but not Holy Convocations. I kinda feel & think that vacation is an offshoot of Convocation. btw We both know who the “author” of traffic, commerce is. It was certainly clear about the, you can save 15% on Geico Insurance, right? I believe Satan wants it clearly understood who is in control of Commerce. He is PROUD of it too. But he also does some things in a subtle way, this was one of them as far as I am concerned, e.g., save 15%. Also, I think this prayer by Copeland is going to work to their advantage. THEY will say, it is Satan’s people who are saying Copeland said what he did. Then they will have their own interpreter to say what the prayer “really” said, & it will be a beautiful translation, FROM “their” interpreters. Again, deb, thanks for your help.

         
      • J.M.

        April 13, 2014 at 4:39 AM

        deb,
        Looks like things have settled down, at least for a while. Tell me what you think of the following & the dates.

        PASSOVER APRIL 14 *
        UNLEAVENED BREAD APRIL 15 – 21
        PENTECOST (Firstfruits) JUNE 9
        FEAST OF TRUMPETS SEPTEMBER 25
        DAY OF ATONEMENT OCTOBER 4
        FEAST OF TABERNACLES OCTOBER 9 – 15
        THE LAST GREAT DAY OCTOBER 16

        (* Observed Previous Evening After Sunset)

         
      • deb

        April 13, 2014 at 10:02 PM

        Days are ok–always start the previous night — even to even=sundown to sundown
        2 Sabbaths and a High Holy Day this week

         
      • J.M.

        April 13, 2014 at 6:27 PM

        deb,
        Are we still together? btw,
        @ >Tell me what you think of the following & the dates.
        The dates are for this year, 2014. Now remember, I said before, >I don’t get angry with people not understanding the same as I do. So tell me whatcha think about the dates. We have another poster & it seem to me he says the Passover begins at Noon. From Noon until the next Noon. I KNOW better than this, & I KNOW you do too deb.

         
      • J.M.

        April 13, 2014 at 9:05 PM

        PASSOVER APRIL 14 *
        UNLEAVENED BREAD APRIL 15 – 21

        (* Observed Previous Evening After Sunset)

        “And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to Yahweh
        throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever” (Exodus 12:14, KJV).

        Apparently, forever is OVER WITH to most people.. Not for me, J.M.

        See, Yahweh’s Restoration Ministry

         
      • J.M.

        April 14, 2014 at 5:23 AM

        Shalom, deb,

        @ > Days are ok–always start the previous night — even to even=sundown to sundown
        2 Sabbaths and a High Holy Day this week.

        It seems we understand alike, 2 Sabbaths and a High Holy Day “this week” at least. As I am writing this, it is my “understanding” that we are into the first holy day, of unleavened bread, which represents the The body, his body. Unleavened bread BREAKS like his broken body DID. Leavened bread does not break. It breaks my heart to “break” the unleavened bread representing his body. It helps keep the memory alive tho of understanding “somewhat” of what he went through. Remember deb, I am writing this in hopes somebody else “may care” & understand. Also, I see nothing wrong in discussing this on a “holy day.” As well, as some other current events. Reality is reality. I had a dream about you last night. IF I told you about it, it would probably make you laugh, but in a delightful way. I may “have to” tell you about in the “future” and the future may be, any day from today. Please don’t be angry with me when we will come to our understanding something in a different way. There IS a poster on this blog who says he/she is not deceived about anything. If this is true, then he/she is perfect, at least the way I understand this. Maybe I don’t. I only know for sure I am a LONG LONG way from being ANYWHERE close to being perfect. Shalom. By the way, there IS another poster that says IF I use the word “Shalom” I am admitting I am A G.D. JEW. So, I guess you, deb are a “Jewess.” Shalom deb, I could care less what he says. He is EDUCATED too..

         
      • J.M.

        April 14, 2014 at 9:15 AM

        deb,
        Re: Me saying, >Thanks again, for the 2nd video. A tragic truth video.

        deb, The leadership IS one thing. The Flock is another thing. I am not knowledgeable enough to KNOW or can say that EVERYBODY in the Catholic Church is CONDEMNED. IF you & I were BORN into a Catholic Family, e.g., Mom & Dad, the chances are pretty good that we will believe like Catholics do too. REMEMBER SAUL??. I KNOW what the Last great day is about & the purpose of it. PART of the purpose will be to resurrect those who TRIED to do the best they could to please “God” but were deceived. THEN THEY, will be taught the right way. After this, Satan WILL be released to “TEST” them. Sad to say, MOST will choose to believe Satan & the Bible says what happens to them, THEN.

         
      • J.M.

        April 14, 2014 at 9:35 PM

        deb,
        @ >Nice try JM……………………………………………………………………….”

        Thanks, deb. I thought it was pretty good myself. BUT, sad to say there only MAY be ONE who can see what was really accomplished. It’s getting close to where I should tell you about the dream I had about you. I cannot say for certain what it REALLY means, but I will tell you what I dreamed. & IF you will shoot straight with me it will say a lot but even then I only see one man who will get the picture, possibly. Thanks again, you hang on to your two edged sword & I will hold fast to my staff that Moses had.

         
      • J.M.

        April 14, 2014 at 11:47 PM

        deb,
        @Besides, I don’t want to create anymore vexation problems.

        deb, IF I am understanding why you included the above sentence, tell me how I have created any kind of vexation problem for you? Joel made it clear that I was creating vexations for him, but how have I dine this for you,deb? Help me out here

         
      • deb

        April 15, 2014 at 12:06 AM

        Are you trying to see if your staff is really the one Moses was using when he struck the rock? You know he never made it into the promised land because of it.

         
      • J.M.

        April 15, 2014 at 2:41 AM

        deb,
        You did not answer my question. I will ask you one more time

        1.>Tell me how I have created any kind of vexation problem for you? Joel,aka Noel made it clear that I was creating vexations for him, but how or what have I done to create a vexation problem for you??

        2. @ >Are you trying to see if your staff is really the one Moses was using when he struck the rock? You know he never made it into the promised land because of it.

        3.> Did Abraham? Abraham died without receiving the “promise” BUT I say on the AUTHORITY OF YHWH ha Elohiym !!! Abraham WILL receive the PROMISE. I smell ANOTHER AMY BETRAYAL

         
      • deb

        April 15, 2014 at 10:19 AM

        JM, don’t play baiting games. Fishing in the ocean in a canoe can attract sharks and unless your Moses staff can be used to fend off the sharks, maybe you should find another hobby.

        Proverbs 4
        Shalom

         
      • J.M.

        April 15, 2014 at 12:25 PM

        deb,
        Isaiah 53
        @ > He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

        This sorta rings a bell with me too. deb, I NOW know what the dream I had about you means & IS. So, I will NOW say fare-thee-well to you. I am pleased to say however, that although it did make me sad to “see” your overall agenda, It did not shatter me, like Amy did. As you said to me, Nice try, deb. I still was able to extract something “interesting” tho, like you posting, the translation video. Thanks, & once again, “nice” try.

         
      • deb

        April 15, 2014 at 1:02 PM

        @So, I will NOW say fare-thee-well to you.

        Fare thee well! and if for ever,
 
        Still for ever, fare thee well:

        Even though unforgiving, never
 
        ‘Gainst thee shall my heart rebel.

        ………………

        But ’tis done—all words are idle—
 
        Words from me are vainer still;

        But the thoughts we cannot bridle
 
        Force their way without the will.

         
  11. EDOMS THORN

    April 6, 2014 at 10:57 PM

    The KEY to understanding the New World Order is understanding EDOM.

    EDOM is who MESSIAH was talking about that were impersonating JUDAH/Israel.

    Rev. 3:9, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee”…
    Whose feet are they? WHO Did God say he loved? Jacob? YES, and in ROMANS 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Malachi 1:3 and OBADIAH!!! The world was blessed through Judah, and the house of David. All of the other blessings were for all 12 Tribes of Israel (Jacob) So who are those that have exalted themselves (OBADIAH) and claim to be Jews. Whose feet are they?

    Isaiah 60:14 …”The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet”… THAT IS EDOM who are ISRAELS enemy in most every place in the Old Testament.

    The Catholic Church is why the Apocrypha Books are not in our Bibles…
    The END of this “AGE” is what?? The New World Order! It is those EDOMITE JEWS that are bring the N.W.O. about!
    THE N.W.O.? >> Esdras 6:9 …”For Esau is the end of this age, and Jacob is the beginning of the age that follows”…

    I had thought for years that EDOM created the Catholic Church, because “if it walks like a duck, it must be a duck”. I may be correct. EDOM (REV. 2:9 JEWS) created the VATICAN
    http://www.atrueott.wordpress.com/righteous-blood-part-xi-not-so-fasce-in-your-

    Myron Fagon: Modern History of The Illuminati ! The 13 Satanic Bloodlines!

    “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.” —Myron Fagan (31 October 1887 – 12 May 1972) He was JEWISH™
    http://www.socioecohistory.wordpress.com/…/myron-fagon-modern-history-of-the-i..

    SATURN – SATAN
    http://atrueott.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/truth-revealed-528-is-the-frequency-of-saturnsatan-not-of-christian-love/

     
  12. J.M.

    April 6, 2014 at 11:40 PM

    I, J.M.am the HOG of this Blog. I thought everybody knew this.
    I am also the trapped mouse against wall with roaring lions trying to
    devour me. I only stay around because I have so many “neighbors”
    backing me up, coming to my aid & I like to make my “neighbors”
    LAUGH & heartily too

     
    • Roger

      April 7, 2014 at 1:17 AM

      J.M.,

      Why do you suppose a frivolous, low content/high volume commenter such as yourself is allowed so much free rein to degrade the tone of this blog all the way down to the wallowing pen with the swine?

      That is, why does Alfred Adask not stop self-indulgent swine like you, who are a-dime-a-dozen on the internet, from driving out intelligent discussion on his uniquely high-quality blog?

       
      • J.M.

        April 7, 2014 at 1:24 AM

        Roger,
        @ J.M.,

        @ >Why do you suppose a frivolous, low content/high volume commenter such as yourself is allowed so much free rein to degrade the tone of this blog all the way down to the wallowing pen with the swine?

        You are right about the low content, but the low content has a degree or two of quality, maybe?

        That is, why does Alfred Adask not stop self-indulgent swine like you, who are a-dime-a-dozen on the internet, from driving out intelligent discussion on his uniquely high-quality blog?

        Only Alfred Adask knows for sure, ask him. I have wondered about this too.

         
      • moon

        April 7, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        Roger, I’d rather you wouldn’t refer to my buddy, J.M., in derogatory terms. I’ll explain:

        My buddy, J.M., is a busy man. Even though you may not recognize his method, he’s finding his way as we all are finding our own paths. He’s busy considering that hate can be a huge waste of his time and talent. He’s weighing the possibility that some of us might love him (without kissing, of course). He’s learning to choose his battles and recognize others that might be his friends, as Al suggested. He’s put out a call for a translator so that we can know what kind of XXX rated language Kenneth Copeland may have spewed from the pulpit.

        Though I’m not sure I’d want to give a dime for a dozen like him, I’d give at least a buck and a half for J.M. He’s a busy man and doesn’t have time to answer a bunch of irrelevant questions.

        You might want to recheck your astuteness in comprehending what’s actually going on here. We’re learning what we need to learn. If you have something you want to offer as “intelligent discussion”, trot it on through. Meanwhile, we’ll be learning the lessons we’re here to learn.

         
      • J.M.

        April 9, 2014 at 11:23 PM

        Roger
        April 7, 2014 at 1:17 AM

        J.M.,

        Why do you suppose a frivolous, low content/high volume commenter such as yourself
        is allowed so much free rein to degrade the tone of this blog all the way down to the
        wallowing pen with the swine?

        That is, why does Alfred Adask not stop self-indulgent swine like you, who are a-dime-a-dozen
        on the internet, from driving out intelligent discussion on his uniquely high-quality blog?
        ————————
        Roger,
        Roger
        April 3, 2014 at 12:58 AM
        @> Me personally, I don’t want to criticize
        —————————————————–

        Maybe Alfred Adask does not like to “criticize” either.OR, maybe he gets a kick out of watching & “seeing” some of us, like me, make fools of ourselves. I honestly don’t know what the true reason or answer is It is just as strange to me as it is to you & MOST, IF not ALL of the commenters I guess. I really don’t know. Anyway, what else you got Roger?? Lay some more of your high quality material on me It will take about 3 more of your high quality remarks directed at me for me to respond in like manner, IT’S the only way I know how to get a point across. I have to bring myself DOWN to some high quality commenters to get ANY point across. This IS noticed. The OTHER high quality comments directed to me are apparently NOT noticed. MY low content response IS noticed, and it is what is called insulting, & starting a personality clash. This comment will probably be deemed to be insulting you too, Roger, aka, Mr. HIGH QUALITY COMMENTER.

         
      • J.M.

        April 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM

        @> Roger
        @ >April 5, 2014 at 9:49 AM

        Roger, you say, to me, J.M. in pertinent part, on the last, at this time, MOOA thread

        @ > Please try to grasp this before posting more personal attacks.

        Good advice, Roger. I try to practice what I preach. I try to let my talk walk & my walk talk. Also, once again, Roger, I need to know how YOU define a personal attack. I do not need you to tell me how any book defines a personal attack, I NEED YOUR definition of what a personal attack IS

         
      • J.M.

        April 13, 2014 at 4:53 AM

        Hi Roger

        @ > That is, why does Alfred Adask not stop self-indulgent swine like you, who are a-dime-a-dozen on the internet, from driving out intelligent discussion on his uniquely high-quality blog?

        Maybe, he, Alfred, knows that swine like me need a place to vent too, & REND too. Do you think maybe that or this is a possibility? Is there a way, you, Roger, the dodger may be able to find out the answer to your question? I would like to know the answer too. You don’t need a Dodge in your garage do you, Roger? I mean by this, A Dodge with HORNS, & not the type that honk, or go ooga ooga, like in a VW BUG. Know what I mean??

         
  13. pop de adam

    April 6, 2014 at 11:40 PM

    I will smoke the good stuff

     
    • J.M.

      April 10, 2014 at 3:06 AM

      pop de adam
      April 6, 2014 at 11:40 PM
      @ >I will smoke the good stuff

      I believe the “Rock” you like & the “ROCK” I LOVE, are 2 entirely different Rocks. There IS a rock called CRACK. Crackpots LOVE it. It shows up sooner or later in what we “say” too. I believe 6 Supreme Court Justices who are Roman Catholic will sorta be influenced to go along with the “heart” of the Pope, pop. I also know you are scratching your head, trying to understand what I just said. I always try to say what I have to say in hopes that at least ONE other man or woman reads what I have to say. I KNOW also, that I can hope in one hand & do do in the other & I KNOW which one will get FULL first. I keep hoping against hope. It’s part of my nature. Just another thing to TRY & overcome. You like to party pop. I KNOW this too. I will not tell you how I know this. This does surprise you, doesn’t it Heeee Hawwwww. Now figure that one out. It’s true. We both know it. Are you wondering how I KNOW it’s true??? Heeee Hawwwww. Don’t make me prove it. I can prove it with your own words, that is, unless you don’t mean what you say, or say what you mean.

       
  14. J.M.

    April 6, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    SIX Justices on/in The Supreme Court ARE Roman Catholic. Three, are Jewish

     
    • pop de adam

      April 7, 2014 at 12:36 AM

      So what?

       
  15. pop de adam

    April 7, 2014 at 12:43 AM

    We might mistake authority as auhorship.

     
  16. pop de adam

    April 7, 2014 at 12:47 AM

    citizeny for citizenship

     
  17. pop de adam

    April 7, 2014 at 12:52 AM

    J.M. would you, could you read “The Grand Inquisitor”

     
    • J.M.

      April 7, 2014 at 1:17 AM

      pop de adam

      @ > J.M. would you, could you read “The Grand Inquisitor”

      If I read it, will it arouse the demons you said I have in me & make those demons want to rumble, or do the boogie woogie? Answer this question for me, & depending upon your answer, I will answer you back. By the way, & to who it may concern, I believe with all my heart & soul that there will be some Roman Catholic people in the Kingdom of “God” This “God” who is the Creator & life giver & the Sustainer of the Universe. How baut dem apples.

       
  18. Joel Boyce

    April 7, 2014 at 1:59 AM

    Having courage to find and follow the direction of God is what motivated a 14 year old boy in 1820 to pray asking God which church was true so that he should then join himself to it. He prayed vocally for the first time to that end and the experience that ensued has been named the first vision. The 14 year old boy with little formal schooling later began a ministry under greater teachers influence, being directed by heavenly messengers. Now known as the last dispensation of the the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that dispensation now spans all continents and includes millions of believers among all peoples on the earth.

    Elijah the prophet did appear to the same young man at a later date to commence the turning of the hearts of the fathers to their children and vice versa. That heavenly visitation has led to the restoration of the work of sealing in heaven what is sealed on earth, joining both the living with their dead by ordinances revealed to the boy prophet. That work has led the world in opening the greatest movement to connect ancestral family and do genealogy work the world has ever known, evidenced by the millions now engaged in doing this research of connecting themselves to their ancestors. That genealogy research is the beginning of the work done, guided by the spirit of Elijah in modern temples.

    Anyone interested in these subjects may find detailed and current information to learn further at lds.org. You will discover more there than you probably realized is in progress under Elijah’s direction. These are exciting times with a great work underway, a work needing more willing laborers to be engaged in the spirit and wonderful work of Elijah.

    Joel

     
    • J.M.

      April 10, 2014 at 5:54 PM

      Joel Boyce,
      @ > Having courage to find and follow the direction of God is what motivated a 14 year old boy in 1820 to pray asking God which church was true so that he should then join himself to it.

      Joel, would this 14 year old boy be Joseph Smith, by chance???

       
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 2:05 AM

      @>Joel

      @ >April 10, 2014 at 2:02 P

      @ >Deb & JM you mentioned an interesting challenge

      This “interesting challenge” has all of a sudden become no longer interesting. Joel, your challenge was responded to. Are you no longer interested? Seems to be this way. Why is this?

       
      • Joel

        April 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM

        Challenge? All I have read of response to my comments seems more aimed at argument and vexation than trying to find the truth and follow it.
        I have learned long ago that truth is not found in contention and argument which only serve to feed the egos involved. Also self-centeredness and the sense that I am right and you’re wrong must be put aside. Truth doesn’t care who wins an argument . It has an eternal life of its own because it is the stuff of which the eternities and natural law are constituted, existing on it’s own.

        What does it matter whose name was is associated with the story of the 14-year-old boy ? The event I described is a statement of facts of which many have testified is true. Someone alleging they’re interested in the truth should find the story itself reason enough to investigate the source which I provided in my first comments.
        Joel

         
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 5:45 PM

      Joel,
      @ > What does it matter whose name was is associated with the story of the 14-year-old boy ?

      Why did you bring it up if it doesn’t matter, this story of the 14-year-old boy ?

       
      • Joel

        April 14, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        Good question. The commencement of the last dispensation from heaven of the gospel of Jesus Christ has occurred in our times. This world is filled with confusion or opinions, disputations, self-appointed authorities different versions of the Gospel as represented by many many Protestant and Catholic faiths.

        Once a human being has been influenced and persuaded by any of these versions of the Gospel his mind has formed many prejudices think that is by the way personal judgments as to what is correct and what is not.

        That is the dilemma that was faced by an unschooled sincere 14-year-old boy when he wanted to find the truth. After reading the Scriptures and wishing to know for himself which church was true he determined to have his first vocal prayer and to directly ask God for the answer: which church is true so he can join himself to it?

        His mind was open, his desire was deep and sincere. He retired to a secluded place in the woods and prayed for an answer. That answer came and is called by believers the first vision. The details of the first vision are available on the website I referred in my original comment LDS.org. Go to the website and search the topic “the first vision”.

        Imagine the challenges that even God would have in bringing forth to the world a pure and last dispensing of his good news of the Gospel in such a confusing and competitive environment.
        This 14-year-old innocent lad was the chosen vessel to begin the ushering the forth of this last dispensation.
        Remember the youthfulness of many former biblical prophets. Think of the boy Samuel who was taken to the high priests in the temple as a young child to serve there in the temple. Think of Joseph of Egypt who was taken captive but remaining faithful was instrumental in saving his family from the famine. Think of Jesus who as a lad was found teaching the high priests and confounding their understanding in the temple. God works through pure and innocent vessels, who are free or relatively free from the prejudices of the world. That is the reason that the youthful age of 14 is a significant part of this wonderful story of restoration.
        Why not go now to that website and read the story for yourself and then give me your next question?
        Joel

         
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 5:52 PM

      Joel,

      @ >In consequence of this phenomenon in the world every person seeking the truth must go to the best source they know of, learn, apply, seek confirmation

      ONCE AGAIN,
      What source do you recommend or suggest? What is the best source “you” know of? Help me out, I cannot find a source in your response to go to to follow up on.

       
      • Joel Boyce

        April 14, 2014 at 5:46 PM

        A general source to directly view and get some in depth information is the website lds.org. Freely browse, get an idea of the scope and depth and focus of the website. Check out the messages from the general authorities, speaking to both members and to the world who may be searching for the truth. This is an organization that openly declares itself to be the restored gospel including prophets, apostles, and an intact priesthood both Melchezidek and Aaronic.

        What are temples for? Read some information again from the website on temples and their use in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Is there information that makes sense in view of the claims the church makes of its being a contemporary restoration of the Gospel? It is not “protesting” anything.

        A more precise source of the truth is found in the unique Book of Mormon within the book of Moroni, Chapter 10 verse 4. The scripture invites the reader of the book to do what the 14 year old boy did to discover the truth: “and when ye shall receive these things, [this quote is found at the end of the Book of Mormon] I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.”

        The Holy Ghost reveals truth by the spirit of revelation to those sincerely seeking it. That single truth has been all but lost in the ocean of disputations and opinions of religion, it is a key understanding to one seeking the things of God. We need not be led astray by contenders for joinder of protestants with Catholics, no matter how fancy the pulpit or the clothing of the preacher may appear. It is the truth we seek, which truth is revealed by the Holy Ghost to sincere seekers like the 14 year old boy.

        Does this not provide you clear specifics? I hope this is helpful to you. Let me know if you have other questions.

        Joel

         
    • J.M.

      April 11, 2014 at 6:06 PM

      Joel,

      @ > Challenge? All I have read of response to my comments seems more aimed at argument and vexation than trying to find the truth and follow it.

      Are you, Joel saying that the message from deb, sent to you, Joel, on April 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM that begins with > Joel–Yo’el,–nice name, it means Yahweh is Elohim, < is aimed at argument and vexation than trying to find the truth and follow it? Huh?? Hey Joel, you are not playing around with a fool when you deal with deb. I think deb's message to you WAS & IS IS a beautiful message. THEN again, beauty IS in the eyes of the BEHOLDER.

       
      • Joel Boyce

        April 14, 2014 at 5:56 PM

        Any accurately quoted scripture is cause to rejoice, reflect, apply to oneself if so written and give thanks to God for revealing His Will.

        Joel

         
    • J.M.

      April 14, 2014 at 7:25 PM

      NoEL Boyce,

      @ > Why not go now to that website and read the story for yourself and then give me your next question?

      I already know the story. don’t have to go to the website. I went to the story about 30 years ago. deb is the one who can communicate with you better than I can, MUCH BETTER. Ask deb what her opinion is. Besides, I don’t want to create anymore vexation problems. IF deb doesn’t respond to you, I will presume that deb is in agreement with you & the “story” you believe & neither one of you will have anymore vexatious “arguments from me, regardless of how cleverly they are worded.

       
      • deb

        April 14, 2014 at 8:41 PM

        Nice try JM. This little red riding hood has a double edged sword and knows how to use it.

        @Besides, I don’t want to create anymore vexation problems.

        Then i’m sure you adhere to Solomon’s words: Eccl. 1:17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

         
    • J.M.

      April 15, 2014 at 7:49 PM

      Mr. Boyce,
      @ > Let me know if you have other questions.

      Is there any question in your wicked mind that I did not have your number from the git go? Is there any question in your wicked mind that Satan & ALL his children KNOW what the scriptures say & yet use the SAME scriptures to twist the meaning to entrap & deceive others? YOU & DEB BOTH have a SADISTIC “God.” YOU BOTH ENTRAP people & then tell them they will be thrown into the Lake of FIRE & BRIMSTONE & will be TORTURED FOR ETERNITY IF the do not believe as you do. I call this WICKED. But I also know that there is a good chance I will get them to post something that WILL be of interest to at least one more.ONE other man or woman. Isn’t it kinda interesting to see that DEB could come up with the video she came up with re: The Translation ? she has absolutely NOTHING on any video about the Holy Convocations she “knows” so much about. This is only food for thought for someone who may care. This IS ALL I want & that is for JUST ONE to care. I’m just about to give up .on this & I know this pleases you & yours. But I will keep on hoping. Like a FOOL.

       
  19. J.M.

    April 7, 2014 at 3:11 AM

    I admire Doug Batchelor. I call it as I see it. IF this is showing my true colors & this gets me banned, so be it. I’m going to TRY & get some rest. I am going to be held accountable for what I say, on that “DAY.” So will everybody else be held accountable, on the day of reckoning. SO, let’s just see what happens. IF I wake up, & I am not banned, we shall PROCEED. IF I do not wake up, I can say in all truthfulness, I have fought a good fight. Good night.

     
  20. Peter

    April 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    It is my understanding most “persons’ in the big church corporations have to fill out an application and they’re assigned seating is based on their income and zip code, double minded individuals.

    If someone such as myself ever applied for membership in the corporation church I would not be allowed to sit next the rich people in the front rows, I would have to bring my binoculars I’d be so far back.

    The word has instructed me to go to my prayer closet (the secret place of The Most High) and seek the Lord and pray to Him.

    Will one have to have a baptismal certificate in their vault to be a part of this church so they have a claim against your soul ( CQV trust)?

     
    • J.M.

      April 14, 2014 at 5:00 PM

      Hi Peter
      @ > The word has instructed me to go to my prayer closet (the secret place of The Most High) and seek the Lord and pray to Him.

      What do you think of Psalm 51?

       
  21. EDOMS THORN

    April 7, 2014 at 10:13 AM

    It is not a “CHURCH” it is a One World Religion…

    The KEY to understanding the New World Order is understanding EDOM.

    EDOM is who MESSIAH was talking about that were impersonating JUDAH/Israel.

    Rev. 3:9, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee”…
    Whose feet are they? WHO Did God say he loved? Jacob? YES, and in ROMANS 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Malachi 1:3 and OBADIAH!!! The world was blessed through Judah, and the house of David. All of the other blessings were for all 12 Tribes of Israel (Jacob) So who are those that have exalted themselves (OBADIAH) and claim to be Jews. Whose feet are they?

    Isaiah 60:14 …”The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet”… THAT IS EDOM who are ISRAELS enemy in most every place in the Old Testament.

    The Catholic Church is why the Apocrypha Books are not in our Bibles…
    The END of this “AGE” is what?? The New World Order! It is those EDOMITE JEWS that are bring the N.W.O. about!
    THE N.W.O.? >> Esdras 6:9 …”For Esau is the end of this age, and Jacob is the beginning of the age that follows”…

    I had thought for years that EDOM created the Catholic Church, because “if it walks like a duck, it must be a duck”. I may be correct. EDOM (REV. 2:9 JEWS) created the VATICAN
    http:*//www.atrueott.wordpress.com/righteous-blood-part-xi-not-so-fasce-in-your-

    Myron Fagon: Modern History of The Illuminati ! The 13 Satanic Bloodlines!

    “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.” —Myron Fagan (31 October 1887 – 12 May 1972) He was JEWISH™
    Remove the asterisk ( * ) to make these links work.
    http:*//www.socioecohistory.wordpress.com/myron-fagon-modern-history-of-the-i..

    SATURN – SATAN
    http:*//atrueott.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/truth-revealed-528-is-the-frequency-of-saturnsatan-not-of-christian-love/

     
  22. Joan of Arc

    April 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    Sadly, the Catholic Church, being a powerful, global institution, has been infiltrated But I support unity among Christian individuals.

     
    • J.M.

      April 9, 2014 at 11:58 PM

      Joan of Arc, et.al.
      @ >Sadly, the Catholic Church, being a powerful, global institution, has been infiltrated But I support unity among Christian individuals.

      There ARE some kind hearted people in the Catholic Church. They are doing the best they can from what they have been taught. This is one example of what Yeshua meant when he said, Judge not etc. It seems most people don’t understand even the elementary things about what Yeshua meant. We do have the Book of Judges in the Holy Bible don’t we? I believe Moses & Aaron were Judges too, Right? We ALL speak from the HEART. Big deal. You will know them, ME INCLUDED by their or my fruits. An Apple tree’s fruit is apples, same for Peach, Pear, Orange,Lemon, etc.

      Hi Alfred. Hi moon

       
      • deb

        April 10, 2014 at 10:00 AM

        JM
        @ >Sadly, the Catholic Church, being a powerful, global institution, has been infiltrated But I support unity among Christian individuals.

        The Mother of all Harlots hasn’t been infiltrated–she, has in-FILTH-rated her daughters who Protested. What unity hath Messiah with Belial?

        @You will know them, …………… by their or my fruits.

        The fruit is in the pudding.

         
  23. EarlatOregon

    April 7, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    Revelation 17

    Revelation 17:
    Where in the World is that City?

    What does that City do to God’s people?

    6 I saw that the woman was drunk
    with the blood
    of God’s holy people,
    the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

     
  24. J.M.

    April 10, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Joel,
    @ >In consequence of this phenomenon in the world every person seeking the truth must go to the best source they know of, learn, apply, seek confirmation

    What source do you recommend or suggest? What is the best source “you” know of?

     
  25. EarlatOregon

    April 14, 2014 at 5:55 PM

    Galations1:8

    But even if we, or
    an angel from heaven,
    preach any other gospel to you
    than what we have preached to you,
    let him be accursed.
    .

     
    • J.M.

      April 16, 2014 at 3:57 PM

      EarlatOregon

      April 14, 2014 at 5:55 PM

      Galations1:8

      But even if we, or
      an angel from heaven,
      preach any other gospel to you
      than what we have preached to you,
      let him be accursed.
      ——————————–
      It’s not good for you to post things like you do & not respond to my question(s) about your posts.
      YOU TOO are a CHERRY PICKER & I KNOW this peeves you off by this TRUTHFUL remark back to you,. REMEMBER the Apostle Peter saying if anyone ask you a question BE PREPARED to give him or her an ANSWER ?? REMEMBER THAT, EarlatOregon ?? Your message IS WIDE OPEN for ANY meaning without more. I’ll ask YOU anyway, like the FOOL I am, WHAT IS the “gospel” originally preached ?? I KNOW what this “gospel” WAS & IS, But for the sake of others who may not know, will YOU,EarlatOregon, say what the “gospel” WAS & STILL IS?

      Your refusal to respond IS an admission on your part that you choose to REMAIN A CHERRY PICKER.

       
    • J.M.

      April 18, 2014 at 9:36 AM

      Earl,
      WHY don’t you OBEY 2nd Peter 3:15 ???

       

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