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False Flag on Russia?

20 Jul

About an hour after I wrote the previous (Survey Sez!  “Putiin’s the World’s Foremost Villain!”), I caught wind of the following video that alleges that Ukraine government (probably in complicity with the United States) is trying to frame Russia for Flight MH 17 in a false flag operation.

I don’t know who produced this video.  I can’t testify to the validity of the evidence that’s presented.  We’ll see a lot of conflicting videos before Flight MH 17 is laid to rest.  Some of those videos will be true, some will be mistaken, and some will present outright lies.  This video proves nothing, but it sounds plausible and it’s short.

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•  The evidence in this video reminds me of the A.D. 1995 bombing of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.  I believe that McVeigh (or someone) drove a truck loaded with a fertilizer bomb up to the building, but someone else wired the building’s internal structure with additional bombs.  The truck bomb out front was for show.  The internal bombs were supposed to collapse the structure.  We know that at least two bombs exploded because a number of seismographs reported two separate shock waves about 8 seconds apart.

That means the “007” secret agents who detonated the bomb in the truck and the bombs in the building were too damn dumb to properly synchronize their watches and make sure that the bombs went off at the same time.

According to the previous video, the Ukraine government’s “007” secret agents wiretapped an alleged telephone conversation between a Russian general and some Ukraine rebels that talked about having caused the Flight MH 17 to crash–after the crash had taken place.  But, according to data embedded on the recording and/or YouTube, the alleged conversation was actually recorded sometime before Flight MH 17 was struck down.

If the video is correct, the conversation between the Russian general and Ukraine rebels is fabricated and evidence of a false flag operation conducted by the Ukraine (and probably US) governments against Russia.  Russia is not the perpetrator.  Russia is the intended victim.

If it turns out that the allegations in this video are true, the reason we will know is that the Ukraine government’s “007” secret agents who allegedly wiretapped the conversation are just as dumb and incompetent as the secret agents who helped bring down the Murrah Building in A.D. 1995.

Fascist leaders may be evil geniuses.  Fascist followers are morons.  An odd couple, hmm?

 

 
 

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22 responses to “False Flag on Russia?

  1. Dr. Richard Welser

    July 20, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    I was surprised by your first posting on this topic. I’ve tracked this story since it occurred and the real skinny is that the event was orchestrated by US/Kiev/possibly Israel (given timing to obscure as much as possible the genocide Israel is committing upon Gaza)/London Banking Cabal (of course). You might wish to read articles on VeteransToday.com … which are often the most accurate of any out there. whatreallyhappened.com also lists stories from a variety of sources… The Lame Stream Media (zionist controlled) and US politicians (AIPAC controlled) always distort, lie and obfuscate.

     
    • Dr. Richard Welser

      July 20, 2014 at 6:10 PM

      I also provide this link to Press TV interview: “Press TV has conducted an interview with Jim W. Dean, from Veterans Today from Atlanta, about Malaysian officials saying if a missile strike is proved to be behind the downing of its passenger plane MH17 over Ukraine, it would constitute an “outrage against human decency.”
      link: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/19/371972/satellite-data-on-mh17-must-be-released/

       
    • Jack

      July 20, 2014 at 9:24 PM

      Richard, you are an anti-Semite of the worst kind. You are too stupid to realize you need to look in the mirror and find any shred decency. Aren’t you late for a hitler youth meeting?

       
      • Tony

        July 20, 2014 at 9:44 PM

        Jack,

        I hope you realize that in the only “realm” that counts in dialogue such as this, is REASON. And where reason is concerned, your contribution is 100% logical fallacy, in this case the ad hominem.

        You have contributed virtually NOTHING in your post save FALLACY.

        Get behind your rock because that is what it is.

        Tony

         
      • Dr. Richard Welser

        July 21, 2014 at 2:48 PM

        Oh, how I love the ad hom…. Actually, I am not an anti-semite. The main semites in Israel today are the Palestinians. And the Sephardic Jews. The great majority Israeli Jews are Khazars, central asians via Europe and Russia. As demonstrated by, among others, a Jewish geneticist at Princeton as I recall. Those Jews aren’t semites genetically. But one point is that you do me harm by slander. I am not anti-semite and I am not anti-Jewish. I love my nieces and nephews and have attended their Bar and Bas-Mitzvahs…What I am is anti-Zionist. And you may not happen to have studied history, but European Zionists collaborated with the Nazis (in order to further their goal to steal Palestine after the war) and, unfortunately, share many of the latter’s worst characteristics. In Israel (what was once legitimately a country called Palestine where Islamic Palestinians and Sephardic Jews had lived in peace for hundreds of years) the Zionist Jews broke all treaties and agreements as they stole (and continue to steal) all of Palestine from the original inhabitants as is well-documented by courageous Jewish Israeli authors Norm Finklestein and Ilan Pape…Go read the history. Also check out the owners of the six corporation conglomerates that control 90% of all media (TV, Radio, Magazines, Textbooks, etc.) in the US. The data is easy to find. Also, check out the excellent research on the AIPAC, ADL, SPLC control of the US congress and US administration. While you are at it, do a little research on the Rothschild history and its (City of London banking cartel- not London) control of banking, general policy and media. While you are at it, study a little bit more and check out how the Rothschild/Rockefeller controlled Federal Reserve was created.. and how it has destroyed what little bit of the Republic was left by that time (1913) and enslaved America in fraudulent debt. (usury, anyone?) In any case, Jack, you are a putz, and Jack, you appear to know very little about anything.

         
  2. Jack

    July 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    Tony, you are a jackass! Are you attending the hitler you rally with Richy? The fact that the video or ANY information that was disseminated said NOTHING about ANY connection to Israel is truth enough. Just why would Isreal care if a Malaysian plane was shot down? Look deep in your soul…

     
    • Anthony Clifton

      July 21, 2014 at 7:30 AM

      when specifically “Jack” did the children of Israel “turn into” the
      Gog & Magog “Jew” proselytes to Talmudic Judaism working for the
      http://biblehub.com/zephaniah/3-9.htm
      Money Changers & Pharisees in Palestine….?
      and the “Media” in what was formerly called “Christendom”…?
      http://www.jewishheritagemonth.com/judaism/jews-and-gentiles-what-does-judaism-teach-a-jew-refutes-the-lies-video.php
      believing lies and being an HASBARAT doesn’t change the truth or make it go away…
      http://themadjewess.com/2012/06/01/obama-runnin-scared-obama-eligibility-activist-rudy-davis-american-patriot-visited-by-secret-service-agents/
      I would like to take this opportunity to share Matthew 13:39-44 with you…
      http://www.john-friend.net/2014/07/jews-most-popular-religious-group-in-us.html
      “JEWTOPIA” is a really warm place…

      you’ll just love it….

       
    • Dr. Richard Welser

      July 21, 2014 at 3:01 PM

      please see my comment above, Jack. Many on the web doing the hard core analyses of the Ukrainian situation have noted the odd ‘coincidence’ that the airliner downing event helped to draw world attention away from Israel’s genocidal invasion of Gaza. One false flag event can serve many purposes, capice? Plus, Israel has every reason to also hate Malasia… see:

      State of Israel Charged for “Crime of Genocide and War Crimes …

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/ state-of-israel-charged-for-crime-of-genocide-and-war-crimes-kuala-lu mpur-tribunal/ 5346375

      Aug 20, 2013 … By Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission (KLWCC) … -Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, former Prime Minister of Malaysia … law as embodied in the Hague Convention of 1907 Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, …

      also, Israel is well-known for its perfidy … see also:

      The USS Liberty – If Americans Knew

      http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html – View by Ixquick Proxy – Highlight

      On June 8, 1967, 34 American servicemen were killed (see list with photos and bios) and 174 were wounded during an Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

      So, Jack try to spend some effort to learn and to think before you accuse me of being a vile anti-semitic…

       
      • Esther Kaplan

        February 5, 2015 at 2:23 PM

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        Gatestone Institute
        Mobile Edition
        Gazans Speak Out: Hamas War Crimes
        by Mudar Zahran
        September 19, 2014 at 5:00 am
        Partial transcript

        “If Hamas does not like you for any reason all they have to do now is say you are a Mossad agent and kill you.” — A., a Fatah member in Gaza.

        “Hamas wanted us butchered so it could win the media war against Israel showing our dead children on TV and then get money from Qatar.” —
        T., former Hamas Ministry officer.

        “They would fire rockets and then run away quickly, leaving us to face Israeli bombs for what they did.” — D., Gazan journalist.

        “Hamas imposed a curfew: anyone walking out in the street was shot. That way people had to stay in their homes, even if they were about to get bombed. Hamas held the whole Gazan population as a human shield.” — K., graduate student

        “The Israeli army allows supplies to come in and Hamas steals them. It seems even the Israelis care for us more than Hamas.” — E., first-aid volunteer.

        “We are under Hamas occupation, and if you ask most of us, we would rather be under Israeli occupation… We miss the days when we were able to work inside Israel and make good money. We miss the security and calm Israel provided when it was here.” — S., graduate of an American university, former Hamas sympathizer.

        While the world’s media has been blaming Israel for the death of Gazan civilians during Operation Protective Edge, this correspondent decided to speak with Gazans themselves to hear what they had to say.

        They spokes of Hamas atrocities and war crimes implicating Hamas in the civilian deaths of its own people.

        From E. W. Kaplan:
        And to those of you who speak of the “perfidy of Israel,” I ask again, as I did years ago, where would you have us be to live in peace and stability? Other than dead? What part of the world welcomes Jews? What other people has given up land in order to hope for peace? What American university can my grandchildren attend that is not rife with Jew haters?

         
  3. Steven Tyler

    July 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    All you need to know is; “if the arabs put their arms down there would be complete peace in the Mid-East. If Israel put their arms down there would not be an Israel.

     
    • Adask

      July 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM

      You’re right, but it’s not that simple.

      Israel bases its claim of land on an inheritance from God promised in the Old Testament. That inheritance extends far beyond Israel’s current borders.

      If Arabs were completely disarmed and Israel was still armed, what guarantee (or even reason) exists to suppose that Israel wouldn’t extend its borders–perhaps as far as the Euphrates River?

      Israel would almost certainly be driven by 1) its religion and 2) the fact that the Arabs were unarmed an unable to defend themselves to extend its borders to the limits expressed or implied in the Old Testament.

      The Middle East is not about politics, guns or even oil–it’s about religion. There are at least four (Sunni, Shiite, Jewish, and Christian) religions represented in the Middle East. Almost all of them are fundamentally antagonistic. Insofar as their conflicts are usually based on their religions, no compromise is usually possible.

      If you want peace in the Middle East, it won’t be enough to get rid of all the guns. You’ll also have to remove all of the rocks and tree branches that might be used as clubs or spears.

      “Peace, peace, but there is no peace.” Not in the Middle East. At least, not until the return of the Messiah.

       
  4. Steven Tyler

    July 21, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    Adask, if your real point was that the Messiah will be coming back and save this planet; I truly hope you are right, but don’t hold your breath. Israel has NEVER expanded her borders without being attacked first. What other country has given up such a large percent of their land for peace?? Israel has shown such restraint tward it’s neighbors that continue to attack it, not recoginize its right to exist and keep saying they will never stop killing is citizens (and all the world’s Jews)

     
    • Anthony Clifton

      July 21, 2014 at 1:27 PM

      How do so-called “Jews” become Israel…?

      specifically The Children of Israel in the Old Testament @ Genesis 49
      and Deuteronomy 32 ?
      http://israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/
      if you don’t have a photograph of Dallas Cowboys at the Alamo…
      you got no “JEWS” in the Old Testament…

      so-called “Jews” cannot be Israel, especially not the Gog & Magog
      PROSELYTES to Talmudic Judaism…

      Israel is a people…not a stool sculpture deity cult compound
      for proselytes to Talmudic Judaism…

      http://israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/ISAAC-13.htm

      and elephants are not giraffes.

      Just repeating “JEWISH” lies doesn’t change the Truth…John 8:44 !!

      what proof or Evidence is there to support the claim of the Zionist
      TERRORIST “JEWS” in Palestine….please be specific…Steven Tyler.
      http://biblehub.com/text/zephaniah/3-9.htm
      to be a “JEW” the adherent to Talmudic Judaism must HATE Jesus.

      100% of so-called “Jews” are neither Hebrews nor Israelites.
      http://biblehub.com/text/matthew/13-39.htm
      so how do Jesus hating “Jews” become Israel {12 Tribes}
      when they aren’t even from the tribe of Judah ?

       
  5. Adask

    July 21, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    My real point is that I do not expect peace in the Middle East, no matter what any mortal person does, thinks, or says–until sometime after the Messiah returns. I don’t blame people for trying to establish peace in the Middle East, but I regard that effort as a fool’s errand. There will not be peace in the Middle East in your lifetime or mine–unless that peace is imposed by God or the Messiah.

     
    • Steven Tyler

      July 21, 2014 at 4:03 PM

      How about peace in the USA, we do not have true peace here. Who’s messiah? Cyrus The Great, once thought to be THE Messiah. Jewish Messiah (remember Jesus was born and died a Jew)? In Islam, Jesus, Abraham, Noah, Moses and Muhammed are all prophets. BTW, are you aware of how many Muslims are killing Christians for not renouncing their Christianity for Islam? I do not see the Jews, Bahia’s, Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Jainism,Sikhism,Satanism, Raelism,Noahidism, Druidry, Wicca, Eckankar, Cao or Shinshukyo etc. killing others because they do not believe in their same religion! The Quran refutes the crucifixion of Jesus and claims he was neithyer killed or crucified. In Ethiopia bthe Messiah was thought to be Emporer Haile Selassie who is/was a Rastafarian. Is your the only “true” religion because that is what YOU believe and all other relgions are wrong because YOU believe this way?

       
  6. Adask

    July 21, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    Who would honestly and sincerely cling to and espouse any religion if he didn’t believe that religion was the only “true” religion?

     
    • Hugh Annus

      July 21, 2014 at 6:04 PM

      You are saying you have absolutely ZERO doubt in your beliefs??

       
      • Adask

        July 21, 2014 at 6:25 PM

        No.

         
      • Jack

        July 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM

        Of course EVERYONE has doubts, because it is all the unknown

         
  7. Anthony Clifton

    July 22, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    actually their rock is not our rock…

     
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