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The Ultimate Prize: Control of Petroleum—or Control of Petro-Currency?

21 Sep

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“. . . they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace . . . .” Ezekiel 13:10)

 

The Muslim faith is divided into two primary sects: Sunni and Shiite. They’ve been at each other’s throat since the death of the prophet Mohammed in the 7th century. Their disagreement is religious and goes to which sect acquired legitimate authority over the entire Muslim faith after Mohammed died. The two sects can go through generations of peaceful coexistence. But every so often, they wage holy war against each other.

ZeroHedge.com recently commented on rising Middle East tensions:

 

“What’s changed [in the Middle East] is the perception that the USA has any role to play any longer even in the diplomatic theatrics. The Middle East is disintegrating faster than any polity in historical memory. It appears that, if anything, the USA has only succeeded in accelerating the process wherever we turn our attentions.”

 

The US government directly supports the Sunni rebels in Syria and thereby indirectly supports the Sunni rebels in Iraq—all the while claiming to support the Shiite government of Iraq.

Our gov-co is playing both ends against the middle. It’s giving weapons and military training to both sides.  It’s fanning the flames of war from both sides. I see only two plausible explanations for this seemingly contradictory behavior:

1) our government is incredibly stupid, grossly incompetent and is therefore accidentally precipitating holy war in the Middle East; or

2) our government knows exactly what it’s doing and is intentionally scheming to cause holy war in the Middle East between Sunni and Shiites.

As much as I dislike our government, I don’t believe it’s as stupid and incompetent as it often appears.

I therefore conclude that the correct explanation for our government’s current conduct in the Middle East must be explanation #2. Our government is intentionally working to pit Sunnis against Shiites in a widespread Middle East holy war that will cause Muslims to kill Muslims, subject much of the Middle East to chaos, raise the price of crude oil at the same time that the US is becoming a major exporter of crude oil; and help protect Israel from any unified threat from the Muslim peoples.

 

• There’s an ancient maxim of war: Divide and conquer.

Thanks to ancient tensions between Sunnis and Shiites, Muslims are being violently “divided”.   It remains to be seen if they will be subsequently “conquered”.

But if Middle East nations are to be divided (Iraq might break down into three separate “nations”) and then conquered, we might ask “conquered by whom”?

The United States military could barely handle Iraq. The US is unwilling and not even able to unilaterally put enough boots on the ground to take control of the entire Middle East.

There’s no other single nation that might be able to move in to “conquer” a “divided” Middle East.

So, who else might be planning to “conquer” the Middle East?

 

• In theory, it might be possible that a “divided” Middle East to be effectively “conquered” by private corporations drilling for crude oil. But the Middle East is so inherently unstable and violent that I doubt that any group of private corporations could unilaterally enforce a “peace” in the Middle East sufficient to allow corporations to safely steal and sell Middle East crude oil.

If private corporations could “conquer” the Middle East, it would only be with the assistance of some superior political power able to deploy enough military force to keep the Muslims in line.   But, even with the assistance of the US military, I doubt that any coalition of oil-producing corporations could be strong enough to impose “peace” on the Middles East.

Corporations won’t conquer the Middle East.

 

• However fantastic the idea may be, it’s conceivable that a coalition of nations—say, Russia, China, the United States and perhaps the European Union (all acting for “humanitarian” reasons, of course) might move into the Middle East and partition that region into several administrative “districts”—just as the European powers partitioned the Middle East after WWI and the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Each of these “humanitarian” nations would take responsibility for controlling those districts and imposing peace.

Here, the word “peace” would be defined as “the uninterrupted flow of cheap crude oil out of Middle-East to be sold at low prices to the world’s major powers.”

All, of course, for humanitarian reasons.

And, of course, it would only be fair that those “humanitarian” nations fighting and killing for “peace” in the Middle East would be allowed to take a fat slice of the crude oil being pumped out of the Middle East.   After all, it costs money to be a “humanitarian peacekeeper” so it’s only fair that the nations imposing “peace” be compensated for their expenses.

The idea that several “great nations” might combine to control the Middle East is a seemingly fantastic hypothesis. Today’s “great powers” are so disparate and antagonistic that it’s hard to imagine them working together to rob Middle East crude oil. But that’s pretty much what happened in the aftermath of WWI—the “great powers” of that time worked together to gang up on, divide, partition, and rob, the Middle East.

This speculation is unlikely, but it’s been done before, so it could be done again.

 

•  However improbable, it’s also conceivable that, in midst of widespread chaos caused by a Middle-East, Muslim holy war, the United Nations might send in enough multinational troops to impose peace in the Middle East. Once the Shiites and Sunnis killed enough of themselves, the Arab people might welcome the UN.

The world would cheer if the UN brought “peace” (the uninterrupted flow of cheap crude oil) to the Middle East.

The net result of a UN-occupation and imposition of peace might not be the renewed partition of the Middle East, but rather a kind of imposed “unification” where the Middle East became a regional “protectorate”. There’d still be individual “nations” like Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. But they’d probably function more like administrative districts that were ultimately subservient to the UN.

Such subservience would mean that UN would control how much crude oil each Middle East “nation” pumped and sold into the world markets. If the UN controlled the production and sale of  Middle East crude oil, the UN would acquire an enormous source of revenue and power to elevate it far above its current status as a glorified debating society.   The UN would have real power and a genuine foundation for New World Order.

More, suppose the UN or any other coalition of major powers could “unify” the modern Middle East—much as the Ottoman Empire (A.D. 1299-1922) once unified the Middle East. Suppose the UN/coalition gained control of Middle East oil production. Then, the UN/coalition could introduce its own petro-currency and use it to replace the fiat dollar as world reserve currency.

I’m not saying that today’s Great Powers currently plan to “divide and conquer” the Middle East in order to issue a new petro-currency.   But I am saying that this fantastic speculation–that control of the Middle East may be less about control of crude oil than control of a new “petro-currency”–is an interesting hypothesis.

Is control of Middle East petroleum the ultimate prize?  Or is control of Middle East petroleum merely an intermediate step on the way towards control of the ultimate prize: creation and control of a new global petro-currency?

 

• In fact, if you like fantasy, consider the ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) rebels who are Sunnis fighting to overcome the Shiite governments of Syria and Iraq and planning to then unite those two nations. Their express objective is to unify the Middle East under the control of a single, Muslim “Caliphate” modeled on the former Ottoman Empire. It’s reported that some middle-east rebels (like ISIS) receive funds, training and weapons from the CIA.

If ISIS succeeded in reestablishing a “Caliphate,” there’d be a single authority ruling the entire Middle East. That single authority could issue a new petro-currency to replace the flagging fiat dollar.

The fact that this proposed “Caliphate” would be ostensibly Muslim might be irrelevant.  The crucial fact might be that the Caliphate was a single authority and therefore capable of issuing a “petro-currency” that was backed by petroleum rather than gold or the promises of central banks.

Note that in A.D. 1971, President Nixon closed the “gold window” and the US dollar became a pure fiat currency. Soon afterwards, deals were struck by the US with Saudi Arabia and then OPEC wherein those oil-producing nations guaranteed to sell their crude oil only for US dollars.  As a result, any nation that wanted to purchase crude oil had to have US fiat dollars to do so.  The resulting demand for US fiat dollars gave those dollars a perceived value.  The US fiat dollar–no longer backed by gold–was implicitly backed by petroleum and became the highly-desired “petro-dollar”.

The fiat US fiat dollar seemed to continue to serve as World Reserve Currency. But was the World Reserve Currency really the fiat dollar backed only by the “full faith and credit of the American people”? Or was the World Reserve Currency the “petro-dollar” backed by the crude oil of Saudi Arabia, OPEC and virtually all of the Middle East oil producing nations?  Which version of the “dollar” had the real value?  The fiat dollar?  Or the petro-dollar?

What if (technically speaking) the real “World Reserve Currency” for the past 40 years was not the fiat dollar, per se, but was the “petro-dollar”?  If that were true, would the New World Order have loyalty to the fiat dollar or to control of the Middle East as the primary source of “petro” in a “petro-currency”?  That “petro-currency” might be the US fiat dollar, or it might be some other completely new fiat currency that was the only currency the oil producing nations would accept as payment for their crude oil.

I’m convinced that the New World Order can’t come to power and global control without a single, global currency that is fiat (intrinsically worthless and therefore able to be printed in unlimited quantities) that, nevertheless, everyone values. This one-world currency could not be backed by gold because there’s a limit to the supply of gold and therefore a limit on the amount of one-world currency that might be issued.  But such currency might be backed by something like petroleum which is in constant demand, constantly consumed and therefore constantly produced.

Nations are addicted to crude oil just as crack addicts are addicted to crack. You get some, you consume it, you need more.  You get more, you consume it, you again need more.  If you can only get more crude or crack with a particular currency, your addiction to crude/crack becomes an addiction to that particular kind of currency.  It doesn’t matter if the only currency that can purchase crude or crack is Monopoly Money.  If that’s what the addicts need to get their next crude/crack “fix,” they’ll do anything to acquire more of that currency.  The resulting demand for the one currency able to purchase crude oil (the “petro-currency”) can make even Monopoly Money seem valuable.

So, suppose the the New World Order’s primary need was for a “petro-currency” (other than to the overly-indebted and fading fiat dollar) able to unite the world.  Would the NWO’s primary objective be to control of the Middle East in order to control the flow of crude oil? Or might the NWO’s objective be to control the Middle East in order to control the global supply of petroleum, and thereby control the issuance of a new “petro-currency” able to: 1) replace the fiat dollar; 2) serve as a new global reserve currency; and 3) provide a fresh monetary foundation for the New World Order?

 

• A new “Caliphate” over the Middle East would surely claim to be a devoted Muslim institution. But, at the top, might a new Caliphate be controlled (bribed) by the CIA or some agency of the New World Order?  (After all, the CIA has allegedly been supporting ISIS—and thus, has been indirectly supporting the movement for a new Caliphate.)

Is it possible that a restored “Caliphate” is more a dream of the CIA and/or New World Order than a dream of Muslims?  Do The Powers That Be give a damn who controls Syria, Iraq, Iran or the entire Middle East?  Or do they only care who issues and controls the next petro-currency?

 

• Historically, the maxim “Divide and conquer” doesn’t stand alone.

It’s followed by a second maxim: “Unite and rule”.

It appears possible for the Middle East to become “divided” by Muslim holy war.  Is that division intended by Israel, the US, the New World Order and/or the remaining major power to implement some sort of “conquest” of the Middle East nations? Or is that potential division primarily intended to implement some sort (any sort?) of ultimate unification of the Middle East that would not only allow unified control of Middle East crude oil, but also the unified control over issuance of a new global “petro-currency” backed by Middle East crude oil?

Is it possible that “He who controls the petro-currency, rules the world”?

Would it follow that He who intends to rule the world must first create and control a petro-currency?

 

• Of course, I’m just spitballin’ here. I’m not making any predictions. I’m jus’ sayin’ “What if?”

In fact, the probability of a “unified” Middle East is low. Some Sunni and Shiite Muslims probably hate each other as much (maybe more) than they hate Jews.  We aren’t likely to see a unified Middle East unless something poses such an horrific  threat to both Sunnis and Shiites that they are forced abandon their antagonisms and unite.

The only way a “unified” Middle East might emerge is in the aftermath of a truly horrific regional war that killed massive numbers of both Sunni and Shiites.  Such war couldn’t be fought by mere, blood-thirsty Muslims eager to behead each other.  A Middle East war sufficiently horrific to justify regional unification would have to involve the detonation of several nuclear weapons by two or more Middle East nations.   We’d have to see something like a nuclear WWIII erupt in the Middle East before we could expect Middle East unification.

I’d bet we’d have to see at least three major Middle East cities of two or more nations be “nuked”. We’d have to know that the resulting casualties ran into several tens of thousands, and perhaps a few hundreds of thousands. Then, even the Muslim psychopaths might be willing to lay down their scimitars and consent to regional unification (and a single, global, petro-currency backed by access to Middle East crude).

I don’t expect a nuclear WWIII to break out between Sunni and Shiite nations anytime soon—if ever.

At least, I don’t expect that sort of war to break out among Muslims without some outside “help” from Israel, the US or the New World Order.

But if a false flag event occurred where a nuclear device exploded in a major Sunni or Shiite city (or especially at a major Sunni/Shiite religious shrine) that could be blamed on one of those competing sects, Katy bar the door. Heads would roll. Big time.  And several more nuclear detonations could be expected as one side or the other tried to “get even”.

After a few more nuclear devices exploded and killed massive numbers of Muslims, even the Muslim fanatics would be forced to admit that it was time to play nice and unify–perhaps under the “humanitarian” control of the UN or NWO.

 

• The ZeroHedge.com article continued:

 

“Since the 1970s, we haven’t felt the ultimate consequence of trouble in that part of the world, which would be an interruption in the oil supply coming out of there. Back then, there might have been something we could do about it. Now there is nothing we can do but stand on the sidelines and wait.”

 

It’s true that there’s virtually nothing our government can do to restore peace in the Middle East. But, if the Bible is true and our leaders shout, “Peace, Peace—but there is no peace,” why not go with the prophetic flow towards war?

I.e., even if our gov-co is powerless to restore peace in the Middle East, it’s not true that there’s nothing gov-co can do but stand by helplessly and wait.

What our government does have power to do and, at least, appears to already be doing, is to fan the flames of holy war between Sunni’s and Shiites, and thereby drive the Middle East into chaos.  (What the NWO’s motto?  “Out of chaos, order”?  In other words, create chaos and then impose order where the people gladly serve and obey the NWO.)

Our gov-co may be powerless to bring peace to the Middle East. But, acting on behalf of special interests and/or the New World Order, our gov-co is not powerless to bring war.

Conventional wisdom dictates that the real prize in the Middle East is control of the production of crude oil. Conventional wisdom is probably right.

But, is it possible that the primary value of controlling the Middle East is not control of crude oil so much as control over issuance of the world’s next petro-currency?

Inquiring minds . . . , etc.

We shall see.

 

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11 responses to “The Ultimate Prize: Control of Petroleum—or Control of Petro-Currency?

  1. Toland

    September 21, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    “The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.”

    – Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope (1966)

     
  2. Anthony Clifton

    September 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM

    what if the people who cared enough about the truth sorta you know just started telling one or two people a day about the Gog & Magog “Jews” not really being from the tribe of Judah…

    http://edomsthorn.wordpress.com/2013/01/28/edom-the-story-of-jacob-and-esau-is-not-just-a-stor/

    what if people took the time to find out the truth about the “Jewish” narrative which is a total lie
    according to Jesus @ John 8:44, and further that 100% of so-called “Jews” don’t have to stay
    in the stool sculpture deity cult compound that is TALMUDIA the “Jewish” state…

    http://israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/

    but mostly
    Americans & Europeans who actually are the “Children of Israel”….what would happen
    if Truth and Justice broke out all over the world including the Middle East like in Matthew 13
    where Jesus says His messengers {keen to setting brush fires in the minds of men}
    will “round up” the tares and put them in the ovens…Glory Be.

    then there is the classic “redistribution of wealth” that the elite synagogue of Satan
    “JEW” bankers fear so much…

    http://biblehub.com/matthew/13-42.htm….Revelation 3:9 !!

    there is quite a bit in there for the remnant to find ….that’s why it says…Seek & ye shall find !!!

     
  3. Anthony Clifton

    September 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    to disallow the genetic offspring of the fallen angels or the Father of Lies that
    Jesus tells about in John 8:44 to just magically print currency and Make “MONEY”
    from thin air to enslave the “Goy” or cattle for Profit is allegedly “Racism” or more
    semantically imprecise “Anti-Semitism”…go figure, eh ?

    http://www.academia.edu/756093/Principle_of_Good_Faith_in_the_Formation_of_Contracts_The

    Muslim majority countries have a history of thousands of years of customs and folklore shared with India that already plays havoc with the largely uneducated population in the rural areas.

    http://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2014/09/20/illuminati-nazis-the-illegal-state-of-israel/

    Unofficial patriarchal village juries made up of illiterate villagers will hand out and execute primitive punishments along the lines of a tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye….equity.

    http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/faith/2010/01/guest_post_sharia_laws_have_be.html

    Add to this outdated Islamic laws and punishments for example, adultery, blasphemy
    and women’s rights and you have created a living hell for women and minorities. . .
    and without some local Talmudic magistrates to help these poor uneducated people
    of Islam from their perfectly horrible living conditions,
    especially for women and minorities…

    http://joeblowreport.blogspot.com/2014/09/where-is-outrage.html

    Left Hook Henderson, John De Nugent, John Friend, Pat Shannan,
    Archie Manning….Henrik @ redicecreations….in multicultural Sweden

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/21/making-you-an-agent-of-the-state/

    how about a round table discussion…is that technologically feasible in amateur radio
    computer/skype/smart phone/drones/satellites/tin cans & strings…can
    a knob twister in Oregon do that..

     
    • EDOMS THORN

      September 22, 2014 at 11:38 PM

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      `Anthony where I said that …”EDOMS THORN is not about anything but “TRUTH”! Research what I have presented and then point out my errors!”.. was not to you!

      The lack of response to the truth is very telling!!! WE are coming down to the Finnish line, and PRIDE is tripping those in the race, and they do not understand that there is a “RACE”!

       
      • Adask

        September 23, 2014 at 5:48 AM

        When you complain about a “lack of response to truth, ” do you mean to imply that you are the source of that “truth”? If so, are you God? His son? A prophet? What makes you suppose that you have a capacity to persistently perceive absolute truth? Are you incapable of error? Are you implying that everything or anything you say or write is “truth” in the absolute sense? If your statements are not absolutely true, they aren’t “true” are they?

        If you admit that you may sometimes commit errors, how are we to discern between your errors and whatever truth you may have discovered if you habitually present both with equal confidence?

        When you complain about a “lack of response to truth,” isn’t it more truthful to say that you’re you really complaining about a “lack of response” to your personal opinions?

        You asked if anyone could point out your errors. I wonder if a lack of humility is an error. I wonder if arrogance is an error. I wonder if it’s an error to have no capacity for self-doubt?

        The whole idea of finding truth presumes that you either acquire truth by divine revelation or your search for it, on your own. The whole idea of searching for truth is based on the presumption that the searcher has not yet found truth in the absolute sense and must therefore search further. Where does that search take place? In the world outside the searcher’s mind? Or inside the searcher’s mind? Or both?

        I believe that much (perhaps most) of the search for truth takes place in a man’s mind. Barring divine revelation, I doubt that any of us will find much real truth in this life until we first objectively consider our own minds, intellectual limits, and conditioning–and eliminate whatever we carry along in our minds that inhibit or prevent us from finding truth. As the Messiah advised, we should remove the “plank” from our own eye before we set about removing the splinter from someone else’s.

        Removing the “plank” from our own eye requires humility and self-doubt. The first step in finding the truth is to admit that you don’t yet have it and thus some of the ideas you embrace and even swear by may be false.

        I have yet to see a mortal man who is absolutely certain that his personal opinions constitute “the truth” who isn’t an intellectual lightweight headed for a painful collision with reality. You show me someone who mistakes his mere opinions for “the truth” and I’ll show you a man whose grasp of the truth is stagnant and no longer growing.

        In most cases, when you know for sure, you not only don’t know–you will never find out. People who have absolute confidence in the validity of their own ideas are typically blinded by their own confidence and unable to perceive truth.

        Barring divine revelation, I doubt that anyone will find “truth” without first embracing a significant measure of self-doubt. That’s where we get the “humility” that’s espoused in the Bible.

        Pro_15:33 The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
        Pro_18:12 Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honour is humility.
        Pro_22:4 By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.
        Act_20:19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
        Col_2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
        Col_2:23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
        1Pe_5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.

        There’s an even longer list of Bible verses that explore the need to be “humble”–often as a prerequisite of dealing with God. None of us can pray to God with an attitude that we will tell Him what the truth is. He knows the truth. We mostly guess at truth or imagine that we know. The arrogant make their own laws and make their own truth. God despises them.

        The first step in getting anywhere near to the truth is to embrace self-doubt. And it’s kinda funny because most people can’t stand self-doubt or any kind of doubt. That’s why some of learn to speak with great, but unwarranted, confidence and others seek to follow those who claim to know the truth. We hate self-doubt. We can’t stand it. We prefer to lie to ourselves or be lied to by others so long as the lies seem “undoubtedly true”.

        It makes me laugh. Hating uncertainty and self-doubt, most people are barred by their own fears of being show to be mistaken from finding the truth.

        I think it may take a strong man to value his own self-doubt. I think that’s a price each man must pay before he can genuinely pursue any truth.

        The Bible talks of “doubting Thomas” as the Apostle who would not believe that the Messiah had been resurrected until he’d placed his hands in the Messiah’s wounds. That sort of doubt was disparaged as inferior to the “faith” of the other Apostles. In matters of religion, faith is the substitute for knowledge. But I’ll say this for “doubting Thomas”–after he’d placed his hands on the Messiah’s wounds, he no longer “believed” (in the sense that children may “believe” in an unseen Santa Claus) that the Messiah had been resurrected–he KNEW that the Messiah had been resurrected. By means of his doubt, Thomas found a level of truth that the other Apostles could not know.

        Doubt is not a perfect solution to any problem. But, without doubt, we leap to conclusions, act impulsively, and often get ourselves into more trouble than we can handle.

        The road to truth starts with doubt. Those who can’t doubt, aren’t likely to find much truth.

         
      • EDOMS THORN

        September 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM

        This is the third time you have responded to me in the same manner! I will admit to a bit of rudeness to some of my readers, WHEN they will not answer a question or speak to my points(ask Anthoney Cliffton), but you attack me because I want that from you. It is called respect, and how an adult conversation is conducted! Your attacks are personal! You do not attack the FACTS. What you have done these three times is the most profound display of “Rectal Defilade” I have ever encountered!
        Most of your response’s have been full of Slander, misrepresenting me and what I say and believe, you call me a liar and effectively call God a LIAR, and HIS word a lie! I presented to you, here, Biblical facts and you call them “alleged facts”. WHY? Is it because they do not fit or apply to your JEWS (what ever “JEW” means to you.)?
        You accuse me of “bicthing” and “complaining” about “the JEWS” when all I am doing is pointing out there involvement in the western Nation destruction, through EDOMS control of the Media, Hollywood, Banking etc. And how EDOM has gained control of the Wests foreign and domestic Policy making.

        But you did not trouble yourself with learning about EDOM! The time that you spent attacking me PERSONALLY, you could have learned about EDOM, and you could have gained a NEAR complete understang of the “The SYNAGOGUE Of SATAN: EDOMS PLAYGROUND”. And the most important understanding you could have gained is about the word JEW™…

        Al, you said, …”And, finally (for the third time), just to give you the answers, recognition and respect you seem to crave, I will answer all of your previous questions that may have previously seemed unanswered. This same definitive answer will also stand as my default response to all of your future questions (unless I decide to answer otherwise). …”So, I give you my universal answer to all questions, past, present and future: Maybe”…
        Pleanty of that kind of SMART ASS foolishness too.

        Why is it that most will not have an adult conversation concerning Israel Identity? I have shared the facts from scripture that points to the western Nations being true ISRAEL with two Seminary trained preachers, and they say that based on those FACTS, that what I had presented was true, but out of anger and pride they BOTH said the same thing, …”What has that got to do with saving Souls”?… They should have understood that as WE are true ISRAEL, that is why we are under attack and subjected to forced open boarders and MULTICULTURALISM! EDOM still hates JACOB, and we are true ISRAEL!

        But what do I know? I only did what the word of God told ME to do! They didn’t! I actually:
        II TIMOTHY 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth”.
        DIVIDING:
        SC GREEK 3718 “orthotomeo” to make straight, cut, to DISSECT!

        And I (TRY) 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

        BECAUSE we are to: Ephesians 6:13-14 “Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. STAND therefore, having your loins girt about with TRUTH”… emphasis added.

        But I have been met with “FOOLS” that, did not do what Gods word says, because: PROVERBS 18:1-2 ”Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom. A FOOL HATH NO DELIGHT IN UNDERSTANDING, BUT THAT HIS HEART MAY DISCOVER ITSELF”… emphasis added.
        And so the “FOOLS” have nothing but ridicule for me because I did as “WE” were told, and because they DID NOT think for themselves , but followed along with the deceived who were deceiving many

        II Cor. 10:12 “For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.”

        And so, because they followed the deceived, they have nothing but ridicule and SCORN for me and (effectively) GODS WORD.

        Proverbs 1:20-22 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?”

        BUT God is not mocked! God is not pleased with the mockers and scorners, and those that have not sought out ISRAEL!

        Ezekiel 34:6-10 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them. Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord; As I live, saith the Lord God, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock; Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord; Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock;

        And so, WE are a PREY, and EDOM is the WOLF!: …”The PROTOCOL Of The Learned Elders Of Zion(EDOM) No. 11:4 …”The GOYIM are a flock of sheep, and we are their wolves. And you know what happens when the wolves get hold of the flock?” ….

        CONNECTING the “DOTS” and doing the “MATH” is what EDOMSTHORN has done! I have NO doubts that I fully understand what I am talking about. IF you will not do the research why do you attack me as you have? It would be better to continue to ignore me than what you have done! Do you intend to discredit me?

        Understanding EDOM is the key to understanding the New Wprld Order!
        EDOM = The NEW WORLD ORDER
        JACOB through the MESSIAH, JESUS CHRIST = The SOON COMING KINGDOM oF GOD!
        II Esdras 6:7-10 “For ESAU (EDOM) IS THE END OF THIS AGE, AND JACOB IS THE BEGINNING OF THE ONE THAT FOLLOWS”

        Out of 27,322 VIEWS at my site 80 % of them find it through their onw search terms concerning EDOM. Many see that EDOM is an important component in these last days!

        I am sorry I “troubled” you Al.

        .

         
      • Adask

        September 25, 2014 at 3:18 PM

        No need to apologize. We all make mistakes.

         
      • Anthony Clifton

        September 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM

        It is possible Al that Edoms Thorn was simply addressing the lack of response to …

        THE ISSUE : Modern day So-called “Jews” cannot be “Israel” the descendents
        of Jacob – Israel in Genesis 49 & Deuteronomy 32 …

        unfortunately most so-called modern day Americans only know about what is taught
        in the public fool system, and or what they gleaned from the raw sewerage outlet
        Talmudvision which a wholly owned subsidiary of the Lie factory which is owned by the same
        Synagogue of Satan so-called “Jews” who print the currency

        http://israel-gaza.com/netanyahu/statements-by-pm-netanyahu-and-howard-p-buck-mckeon/

        and while objective analysis is a much more logical approach to understanding an
        “ISSUE” in its entirety “in toto”..most people have some subjective attachment as in
        experience…mostly the trial and error method from which it is difficult to detach mainly
        on account of an emotional involvement, Jesus said it best when he said
        “For inasmuch as ye do it unto the least of these my bretheren…”

        http://israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/JeremiahStudy.html

        we all have fallen short, many times, the race is not always to the swift but to
        those that endure

         
  4. EDOMS THORN

    September 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM

    I have said for years that the Oil Fields of the Mid. East, are simply an added bonus/tool that the manipulators of the WARS, and implementers of the New Order have taken advantage of! Just as ALL of the advancements in technology have been used as TOOLS for our destruction! The Oil and DRUG trade is being used to finance our destruction! Not to mention the Federal Reserve!

    But please people, lets not ignore the facts concerning ISLAM. Its creation and radicalization is traced back to Saudi Arabia. Facts are FACTS! ISLAM is also a “TOOL” that was created to further aide in “OUR” destruction! The facts are there for those that a willing to do the research.

    I was amazed to see this article by “WAYNE MADSEN” that expose’s the truth behind the radicalization of ISLAM and the FACT that the “House of Saudi’ are in fact EDOMITE (Crypto JEWS).

    Wayne MADSEN had wrote and posted The Dönmeh: The Middle East’s Most Whispered Secret (Part I)
    …”The down fall of Turkeys Sultan Adulhamid II was a direct result of his opposition to Theodore Herzl and and a Zionist “State”,
    Historians like Ahmed Refik, who served as an intelligence officer in the Ottoman army, averred that …”it was the aim of the Young Turks to destroy the Armenians, who were mostly Christian. The Young Turks, under Ataturk’s direction, also expelled Greek Christians from Turkish cities and attempted to commit a smaller-scale genocide of the Assyrians, who were also mainly Christian”…
    http*://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/10/25/the-doenmeh-the-middle-easts-most-whispered-secret-part-i.html

    Thank you ANTHONY for you faithful support and presenting the truth’s that you do!

    EDOMS THORN is not about anything but “TRUTH”! Research what I have presented and then point out my errors!

     
  5. Anthony Clifton

    September 23, 2014 at 3:24 AM

    every man has the responsibility to find out the Truth and do what is right

    http://israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/JeremiahStudy.html

    in a “Nation” of Kings & Priests one might imagine that would be a FUN occupation
    executing righteous JUDGEMENT first thing in the Morning…

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/22/rick-perry-idiotically-cites-joan-rivers-death-justify-texas-anti-abortion-law.html

    plenty of time for hunting and fishing in the afternoon…

    http://www.therealistreport.com/2014/09/war-mongering-jews-compare-isis-to.html

    maybe a round of golf now and then

     

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