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Bill Whittle on Gun Nuts

29 Jun

More guns = less deaths

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Posted by on June 29, 2015 in 2nd Amendment, Lies

 

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72 responses to “Bill Whittle on Gun Nuts

  1. TJ

    June 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    Exactly…queen Hilary and Obummer would like you to believe the opposite… less guns would mean less crime…

    Read the FBI stats…

    Hammers are the cause MORE deaths than guns..

    Baseball bats cause MORE deaths than guns….

    Let’s outlaw them too.. we can’t have any lunitics running around with hammers or baseball bats..

    Hitler took the guns and the people were left defenseless against them…see what happened there.. THE GOVERNMENT KILLED 6,000,000 plus.

    The Second Amendment was written specifically to protect the American Citizens from THEM…the GOVERNMENT= (BRITISH BAR CONTROL)

     
    • Russell Arms

      June 29, 2015 at 10:14 PM

      TJ,
      @ Let’s outlaw them too.. we can’t have any lunitics running around with hammers or baseball bats..
      EXACTLY !! Also, table forks & spoons, & of course steak knives,ice picks, tire wrenches, Iron skillet frying pans, just too many items to list. The courts say an automobile is a deadly weapon, not just dangerous, DEADLY. I get a little HOT just thinking about it.

       
      • Adask

        June 30, 2015 at 12:25 AM

        The idea of outlawing hammers and baseball bats is absurd.

        But maybe we could license them and require that anyone holding a hammer to first get a carpenters license and anyone holding a baseball bat to have completed four years of high school baseball before the license might be issued. That’s not so dumb, is it?

         
    • Anthony Clifton

      June 30, 2015 at 11:04 AM

      if Hitler took the guns who took the truth ?

      http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece///Person/en//NicolausOfDamascus.html

      just repeating lies will never make the truth ….go away.

      http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com/2015/06/why-wont-emory-universitys-holocaust.html

      eventually the LANGUAGE must be PURE…. see Zephaniah 3:9

      http://www.georgecatlin.org/Seminole-Chief-Osceola.html

      name 4 JEW LIES the world can live without….

       
  2. Russell Arms

    June 30, 2015 at 1:50 AM

    Adask
    June 30, 2015 at 12:25 AM
    @ That’s not so dumb, is it?
    it’s BRILLIANT !! Anyone with just a smidgen of common sense KNOWS that anything regarded as dangerous, the licensing of the dangerous item diminishes the dangerousness of the item. Even a MORON should know that. I need to have my hands licensed TOO !! I can make my hands into a clinched FIST & this is another deadly weapon. Brilliant Idea on your part Brother Alfred Adask!! D

     
  3. Russell Arms

    June 30, 2015 at 2:28 AM

    A hammer without a Carpenter’s license is like a bird with no wings or a tree with no leaves. You just can’t have one without the other. And NOW, back to your regular scheduled programming. D

     
  4. dog-move

    June 30, 2015 at 8:45 AM

    Jesus the Christ was a “sword nut”, see Luke 22:36 and read the command from the Master at Luke 11:21. You are commanded to be armed to protect your valuable possessions, your wife and children and other less valuables items such as silver and gold.

     
    • TJ

      June 30, 2015 at 9:21 AM

      You have the Right of self protection… it matters not from who or what. The only King granted you the Right of and to Life, Liberty and Property. Gun laws are intended by the bank$ters to make you fodder for their tontine scheme to be THEIR slave.

      Guns are a tool, swords are a tool, a fork and spoon are tools, your bare hands are tools… the faith in the King of kings will give you Wisdom…. Wisdom gives you everything… all else is FRAUD.

      Stand up… not down in the name of Jesus the Christos…

       
      • Allen Curtis

        July 2, 2015 at 8:59 PM

        TJ,
        @ @ Sure you don’t want people to become Muslim? Abraham sinned and killed all his life… He received GRACE by FAITH…
        KILLED WHAT all of his life? IF you are saying Abraham murdered people all of his life you are a LIAR !! Satan IS the Father of ALL lies & LIARS.

         
    • Bertha Kitt

      July 1, 2015 at 4:58 AM

      dog-move
      @ Jesus the Christ was a “sword nut”, see Luke 22:36

      He was considered NUTS by his own family.This means Mother Mary & his 1/2 brothers & sisters.
      Mark 3:21New International Version
      When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
      wow, his own family. You KNOW who is family was doancha? Mother Mary & his 1/2 brothers & sisters.
      New Living Translation
      When his family heard what was happening, they tried to take him away. “He’s out of his mind,” they said.
      English Standard Version
      And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for they were saying, “He is out of his mind.”
      New American Standard Bible
      When His own people heard of this, they went out to take custody of Him; for they were saying, “He has lost His senses.”
      King James Bible
      And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.
      Holman Christian Standard Bible
      When His family heard this, they set out to restrain Him, because they said, “He’s out of His mind.”
      International Standard Version
      When his family heard about it, they went to restrain him, because they kept saying, “He’s out of his mind!”

       
      • TJ

        July 1, 2015 at 8:40 AM

        A most twisted perception…against self protection… betrayal is no more than a lie; if that betrayal has the potential to you harm you have the Right to like in kind self defense and put down those who attack you to harm you… or are you a coward?.

        Sure you don’t want people to become Muslim? Abraham sinned and killed all his life… He received GRACE by FAITH…

        All biblical characters committed sin>>> many murder, Jesus cleanses your sins by FAITH, not your works…

        So if someone is going to shoot you and you have a gun… you’re just going to “turn the other cheek?”

        Total bovine fecal matter….

         
      • Allen Curtis

        July 18, 2015 at 11:35 AM

        Bertha Kitt
        @ July 1, 2015 at 4:58 AM
        If he, Yahshua/Jesus, was here today, & exchanging comments, ideas, etc. on the internet blogs, he would be called, A TROLL !!

         
  5. palani

    July 1, 2015 at 8:49 AM

    I made a special trip to my gunsmith and asked to see a gun nut. He could not even produce a single one. I have heard of explosive bolts though I’ve never seen any of these either.

     
  6. Allen Curtis

    July 2, 2015 at 1:31 AM

    TJ,
    @ Sure you don’t want people to become Muslim? Abraham sinned and killed all his life… He received GRACE by FAITH…

    And, FAITH without works IS DEAD. Show me your FAITH without WORKS and I will show YOU my FAITH by my WORKS !! James 2:14 > What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works.Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. James 2:18; AND, But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his WORKS, aka DEEDS. Romans 2:6; AND, For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Matthew 16:27; AND NO!!! I am not a Bible worshiper. I just don’t like “cherrypickers of certain scriptures to try & prove a point. Let’s get to the WHOLE story not just part of it. K-peach-E ??

     
    • TJ

      July 2, 2015 at 7:02 AM

      Cherry picker… or should I say tomatoe>>> toe matoe picker.

      Romans 3:10
      Put forth what Jesus did for us NOT your works

      Romans 3:27
      you are foolish to believe penitence will save you
      you are foolish to believe in the traditions of men

      you assume a legalist view is the Law of God

      Martin Luther came into the Light with the understanding of Roman 3:27 after 16 years as a Catholic monk>>> with no WISDOM

      If you ever want to understand GRACE, read Romans 2 or 12 times and UNDERSTAND IT… which obviously you don’t..

       
    • TJ

      July 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM

      Luke 10:17 – “And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.”

      LUKE 10:17

      It was the power in the name of Jesus plus the disciples’ faith in that power that made the demons subject unto them. This can clearly be seen in Acts 19:13-17 where certain Jews called on the name of Jesus in an effort to cast demons out of a man. They used the name of Jesus, but it didn’t work because they had not put faith in that name.

      These Jews were itinerants who used incantations to effect deliverance for people who were demon possessed. The first-century historian, Josephus, wrote of an exorcism that he witnessed in the presence of Vespasian and many of his soldiers. The exorcist supposedly followed a ritual passed down from King Solomon to effect the deliverance. There is no doubt that men throughout all history have tried to resist demonic spirits, but as this example proves, only Jesus and those who have received His life are successful.

      Those who relegate demonic spirits to the realm of superstition do not believe in the entire Word of God. The Gospels alone contain over 90 references to the devil or devils (demons). The Apostle Paul said when writing to these people in Ephesus, “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” (Eph. 6:12). The devil and demons do exist, but all believers in Jesus share in His total victory over them.

      The name of Jesus is not magic. It does not work like a charm. As Peter said, “His name, through faith in his name” (Acts 3:16) is what brings results.

       
      • Jerry Byrd

        July 4, 2015 at 12:22 AM

        @ The name of Jesus is not magic. It does not work like a charm. As Peter said, “His name, through faith in his name” (Acts 3:16) is what brings results.
        ” IN His NAME means what he stands for. Is the request, prayer,etc., in the CHARACTER of what he stands for? Also, those who REQUEST ANYTHING FROM Jesus, MUST HAVE A DEGREE OR TWO OF HIS CHARACTER TRAITS/QUALITIES.Just saying in the name of Jesus doesn’t necessarily cut the mustard. Here is just one of many biblical examples of what I’m trying to say.

        Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth. 14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so. 15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? 16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. Acts 19:13, thru 16. :-) D

        SEE !! The Apostle Paul had a degree or two of the CHARACTER TRAITS OF Yeshua/Jesus. :-)

         
      • TJ

        July 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM

        Exactly… merely speaking his name is like saying abra cadabra… Faith is the key to GRACE… phony works and demand on God will NEVER give you Grace… works are traditions of Man. FAITH in HIS works is all GOD requires. You can be forgiven 7 X 70= 490 times for your sins, works don’t do anything in the Book of Life if you don’t have FAITH…

         
  7. TJ

    July 2, 2015 at 6:22 AM

    sticky keyboard… shoe

     
  8. TJ

    July 2, 2015 at 6:26 AM

    Well Mr. cherry picker all… I can give you probably another 100+ teachings from the manuscript to show you are nothing but a church whore and legalist of man… claiming to have WISDOM

     
    • Allen Curtis

      July 2, 2015 at 4:41 PM

      TJ,
      You proclaim that Grace means not subject to ANY of “God’s” laws which means God’s Grace NOW permits SIN which WAS/Meant the transgression of ANY ONE of God’s laws, summed up in the 10 Commandments. TJ YOU are preaching a doctrine of DEMONS. IF you ever get stopped by a “Peace Officer” for ANY cause or reason, just tell the “Peace Officer” you are not under the law,(meaning subject to) you are under GRACE.

      For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Matthew 16:27 According to WHAT? FAITH? GRACE? WORKS

      And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. According to WHAT? Faith? Grace? WORKS!

      And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.< SEE the word WORKS?
      Revelation 20: verses 12 & 13. AND,

      But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. Matthew 12:36 TJ No more pearls from me to Agents of SATAN, Preachers of doctrines of DEMONS & SWINE LOVERS !!

       
      • TJ

        July 4, 2015 at 6:38 PM

        Most of you cotton pickers are chitlin’ lover of swine… my FAITH is in Jesus the Christos… NOT the traditions of man or some vain hillbilly…a/b/a Allen Curtis

         
    • Allen Curtis

      July 20, 2015 at 10:39 AM

      tJ
      @ Most of you cotton pickers are chitlin’ lover of swine… my FAITH is in Jesus the Christos… NOT the traditions of man or some vain hillbilly…a/b/a Allen Curtis
      YEAH RIGHT!!! You mean you have the faith,meaning you believe Yahshua will wink at, overlook, etc., ANYTHING “God” says is SIN because you say Yahshua DID everything asked of us to do, you say Yahshua DID this for us because he came to realize we just could not do what is required AND THIS is ANOTHER Docrine of DEMONS. In other words, FORGET about obedience, Yahshua has gotcha covered. How can anyone believe such a thing? The Universe itself operates on LAWS & therefore we have ORDER. We must obey the ORDERS of the law of “God” OR ELSE!

       
  9. Jerry Byrd

    July 6, 2015 at 2:20 AM

    TJ,
    @ my FAITH is in Jesus the Christos…
    Jesus Christos – Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
    Jesus Christos (Iesu Christi) is an extinct mammal in the Deity family, native to the
    arid deserts of Judea. Only one Jesus Christos is known to have ever lived, …
    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jesus_Christos

     
  10. Dea Lawman

    July 8, 2015 at 8:42 AM

    @ “The question seems to be: Are you trying to “buy something” with your works? Or, are your works an expression of love for God that seeks and expects no reward?”

    If you love me you will keep my Commandments. He that SAYS he loves me but does no keep my Commandments is a LIAR & the TRUTH is not in him. Do unto others as you would want others to do unto You. Love has degrees. The more we respect/love “God” the more we will understand the FIRST Commandment. IF we really understood the first Commandment there would not be any need for ANY other Commandment because we would KNOW not to steal, covet, murder, etc. AND we would also know about his “HOLY” Convocations, & the purpose thereof, AND we would also know the overall plan of “God”. RARE is the one who understands this. Yeshua WILL return & for 1,000 years people will be taught HIS way of life. The newborn will all live for 100 years & during this time they will be taught HIS way. They will die too, & be resurrected at the end of the 1,000 year period to face FINAL Judgement.Here is a hint/clue, >yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers: And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. < THIS has NEVER happened but it will take place in the 1,000 year Rule/Reign of Yeshua on this EARTH. Isaiah 30 verses 20 & 21.

    Here is another hint/clue. Isaiah 65
    18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

    19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

    20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

    21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

    22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

    Thou shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.

    24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. 25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

    There ARE two MAIN resurrections spoken of in the Bible, BUT, there will be several "minor resurrections" during the 1,000 year RULE on EARTH. That SECOND main Resurrection will be for those who have lived & died & KNEW of "God's" WAY & knowingly & willingly REJECTED it.

     
  11. Dea Lawman

    July 8, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    There have already been several resurrections, e.g., At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people. Matthew 27:51-53.
    Also, Lazarus was resurrected, BUT he died again after that, John 11;43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” 44 The dead man came out, his hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around his face.Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.” John 11, verses 14 thru 41 is worthwhile to know too. Then we have the little girl incident.
    Matthew 9:18.” While he was saying this, a synagogue leader came and knelt before him and said, “My daughter has just died. But come and put your hand on her, and she will live.” 19 Jesus got up and went with him, and so did his disciples.Verse 23,When Jesus entered the synagogue leader’s house and saw the noisy crowd and people playing pipes, 24 he said, “Go away. The girl is not dead but asleep.” But they laughed at him. 25 After the crowd had been put outside, he went in and took the girl by the hand, and she got up. 26 News of this spread through all that region. In the 1,000 year Rule on EARTH, everyone who has ever live & died who never had a conscious convicting knowledge of the purpose & plan of “God” for mankind will be resurrected, in different intervals & will be taught the TRUTH of “God’s” purpose. Satan will be bound during this 1,000 year period for the purpose of not being able to deceive them. These people will die again after they are resurrected but they will die knowing God’s purpose. When the 1,000 years are finished, they will be resurrected again, & Satan will be released. These people will be tested to see who they want to follow, Satan, or, “God”. Once again according to the Bible the vast majority will choose to follow Satan BUT, as it is written in Revelation 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.

     
    • Allen Curtis

      July 18, 2015 at 11:47 AM

      Dea Lawman
      July 8, 2015 at 6:29 PM; July 8, 2015 at 8:42 AM
      WHO CARES ?!? I do. Shalom !!!

       
  12. TJ

    July 8, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    When God tells me to do something… I do it. I may see a homeless individual… and walk on by… but then there are ones who I am told to offer them something… it is the word to me…. never expect something in return when God tells you to do something…JUST DO IT!

     
    • Dea Lawman

      July 8, 2015 at 11:17 PM

      tj,
      @ When God tells me to do something… I do it. I may see a homeless individual… and walk on by… but then there are ones who I am told to offer them something… it is the word to me…. never expect something in return when God tells you to do something…JUST DO IT!

      HEY REPROBATE ! I KNOW WHO YOUR god IS & I agree with you that you DO what YOUR god TELLS YOU TO DO! YES INDEED !! LOOK YOU CREEP-E-FIED REPROBATE AGENT OF SATAN !! I KNOW WHAT THE FIRST MAJOR RESURRECTION IS ABOUT & WHO WILL BE IN THAT FIRST MAJOR RESURRECTION. THOSE WHO ARE IN THAT FIRST RESURRECTION WILL BE THOSE WHO WILL RULE WITH Yeshua/Jesus ON THIS EARTH FOR 1,000 YEARS. WE WILL SEE WHO I AM IS THEN BIG BOY !! YOU ARE JUST LIKE YO DADDY !! YOU MIX IN A LITTLE TRUTH WITH MAINLY FLAT OUT-RIGHT LIES. I GOTCHA NUMBUH BUBBA SO FIND EASIER PREY. K-peach-E? TAKE A LONG RUN OFF A REEEEEEEL SHORT DOCK.. BE GONE !! adios

       
    • Dea Lawman

      July 8, 2015 at 11:43 PM

      tj,
      @ Abraham sinned and killed all his life… He received GRACE by FAITH…

      Killed WHAT all his life? Abraham received Grace by faith for killing WHAT ALL OF HIS LIFE? Why do you REFUSE to say WHAT Abraham “KILLED” ALL OF HIS LIFE? Are you saying Abraham was a MURDERER & MURDERED PEOPLE ALL HIS LIFE BUT HE RECEIVED GRACE BY FAITH FOR BEING A MURDERER ALL OF HIS LIFE? Why will you NOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS?

       
      • TJ

        July 9, 2015 at 6:14 AM

        You just don’t get it do you? Allen Curtis has several pseudonyms, he /she/ it… uses on this blog many names to “appear” to be a separate “person” on this blog… clamoring on as a ratchet jaw… to “appear” to have wisdom…

        Or is it you?? Alfred…?

        The last one “ole’ ‘ratchet’ jaw” is using… “Dea’ ‘Lawman” open your eyes… ALFRED!! Or are you so blind by your own piety?

        DEA LAWMAN!!

        Jade Helm 15 is full of psyche-ops… you think you are exempt… you are a target! Wise ups or be one of the first to go…

         
  13. Adask

    July 9, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    I’m well-aware who Dea Lawman is. I might even know his real name. I’ve banned Dea Lawman under several names in the past. He can be, and has been, disrespectful, annoying, aggravating, and and a real pain in the butt. But I never had the impression that he was mean-spirited. We’ve come to a kind of agreement. He likes to tease some people unmercifully. Still, he generally behaves in a semi-respectful, semi-civil manner and generally don’t ban him. Plus, despite all of his “personality quirks,” he’s not an idiot. He plays the fool with more conviction and persistence than anyone else ever has, but he also makes enough intelligent comments to make his presence tolerable.

    You, on the other hand, display an anger and meanness in your comments that is persistently offensive and disagreeable. Plus, you talk about the Bible as if you wrote it and there’s nothing in the entire book for you to learn. And you haven’t the least trace of humility. You write about Christianity as if the Messiah was your red-haired stepson. “Dea” writes to tease and annoy. You write to injure and harm.

    However much you may know about the Bible, there is nothing in your writing to suggest that you have a Christian “spirit”. Your lips may be close to God, but your heart is far away. I think you know it, but I don’t think you care. Your apparent contempt for everyone, including yourself, is far from any version of Christianity I’ve ever seen or heard of.

    There appears to be no love in you. No humility. Just contempt, arrogance, anger and meanness. You are spiritually disturbing to read.

    Like DEA, Les, Nat, etc., etc., I don’t think you can help yourself. You’re both caught in a compulsion that you’re not simply powerless, but disinclined, to stop. You both delight in your own forms of madness.

    But DEA has this over you. His compulsion does not drive him to be mean. Yours does.

    He’s trying to be a Christian. You’re not trying at all.

    And then there’s your warning about Jade Helm. I’m well-aware of the potential dangers. Maybe those dangers are real, maybe only rumors. I couldn’t care less. I’ve been jailed before. I’ve lost everything a time or three. I don’t mind. I don’t even mind the idea of being killed. My faith isn’t perfect, but I really do have faith in our Father YHWH ha Elohiym and I’ll go wherever he takes me.

    But your warning about Jade Helm reminds me of Revelation 21:8–a laundry list for those destined for damnation:

    “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”

    All of the usual suspects are there: murderers, liars, etc. But top of the list is “the fearful”. Those who fear are destined for damnation. Why? Because fear is the inverse of faith. Those who have great faith feel no fear. Those who have much fear have relatively little faith.

    If you stick with God, your fear will be minimal. To succumb to fear is to admit that your faith is false.

    With your warnings about Jade Helm and your advice that I “wake up,” you are counseling fear. You are promoting the kind of fear that can cost people their salvation. Insofar as you succeed, you do Satan’s work by scaring people out of their salvation.

    Insofar as you advocate fear, you show signs of being wicked.

    There are people who comment on this blog who persistently disagree with me. I generally let it go. I don’t mind, I even expect, some disagreements. Some who persistently disagree with me make me wonder if they’re not trolls. But I don’t generally mind or reply to such possible trolls. If they are trolls, perhaps they’re being paid to hassle me and this blog’s readers. Or maybe they’re not paid and I’m just over-reacting.

    But you are only the second man (or woman) on this blog in five years who impresses as being mean-spirited to the point of being wicked.

    To me, there seems to be something wrong with you, TJ–and whatever that “wrong” may be, it’s much greater than any “wrong” that’s readily apparent in “Dea”.

    If you want to make intelligent comments in response to the articles on this blog or response to other people’s comments, that’s fine with me. But if you insist on insulting and belittling the people associated with this blog,you need to look for another blog where your kind of meanness is welcomed. Stop the insults now. If you can’t/won’t do so, you’re gonna be gone from this blog. That’s my last warning.

     
    • Dea Lawman

      July 9, 2015 at 9:54 AM

      Adask,
      I have never knowingly been disrespectful to anyone. I do RESENT posters like TJ & I believe for good reason, but maybe not to you. Anyone who says he is, I AM, it’s beyond words for me to know how to explain my anger towards such a liar. However, since you say I am annoying, aggravating, and and a real pain in the butt, I do, believe it or not, respect you enough not to be that any longer. I fail to see how you can say I am leaving you unmercifully, but I do not know how to leave in anyway that you would say is merciful. You were 100% right about me when you said I am trying to be a Christian. I do try. What I see as righteous anger, coming from me, you, & based on what you have said, is disrespectful. I read ALL comments. I remember what others have said & this was a factor in my response back to them. Anyway, the only way I can see I can contribute to your blog is to leave. Thanks for not asking me,&/or presuming if Dea was short for, Drug Enforcement Agency. :-) So long Pardner.

       
      • TJ

        July 9, 2015 at 7:23 PM

        Go for it Al..if you are so simple minded to think I can’t reappear using a hundred different aliases running through a grey box server be my guest..

        I was attempting to show the facts as they exist in the law.

        When little fools like DEA or whatever drag he’s it is using today… began the whole insulting banter at me… I won’t take his shit or yours… You in your egomaniacal judgment to tell me what my faith is… the CURSE is upon YOU…Al… oh I mean god like wanta be…

        You may think I will take BS from the likes of him or you and consider it “wicked” and “mean spirited” You are the fool…

        Ban me then I will be back 1000 ways, under 1000 different names,… or teach your buddy DEA to stick his comments where the sun don’t shine and get over his bantering…

        OR I will respond in kind EVERY time he insults me… or you do… YOU-Al are without Wisdom… this claim that Jesus is my red-hearted step son, only proves you live in the curse and YOUR contempt for anyone who merely quotes the law or the manuscript…is disgusting…

         
      • Adask

        July 10, 2015 at 3:31 AM

        You use the Bible like a weapon to beat people down. Apparently, there is no “Gospel” (“good news”) in you.

        As for you “coming back [to this blog] 1000 ways, under 1000 different names” after you’ve been banned, you’re just like Les Fuchs, aren’t you? That’s what he’s done. I ban him, he comes back in another name. I ban him again, he creates another new name. Lately, he’s creating new names almost weekly even if he hasn’t been banned.

        Interesting irony, hmm? In that regard, you’re just as arrogant as Les. It doesn’t matter to you if you’re wanted here or not. You’ll go where you want, when you want, and to hell with anyone who gets in your way–right? Well, maybe so.

        But that attitude is arrogance. It’s disrespect. And that’s you, TJ: arrogant, disrespectful. How do you square that arrogance and disrespect with your claim to be a Christian?

        In any case, after I ban you, you may come back a in “1000 ways,” but you’ll either behave yourself so I don’t have to ban your next new pseudonym, or you’ll let it all hang out (like Les), I’ll spot you and not only ban you again but also remove all of your previous comments from the blog.

        As for “quoting the law or the manuscript” I presume you’re referring to the Bible. You imply that those (like you?) who really know the Bible are holier than all the rest. I don’t know, but I’m told that Satan is a master of the Bible. He can quote the “law and the manuscript” forwards and backwards. I doubt that that any living man–not even you–can match Satan’s mastery of the Bible. My point is that the ability to quote scripture is not evidence that one is God, or the Messiah or even a good Christian. And that’s my complaint with you. Your expertise is impressive. But your heart seems mean-spirited. You might be a Christian in your mind, but it you don’t appear to be one in your heart.

        I’ll give you this: you seem to be honest. I’ve twice described your comments as sounding like those of an angry, mean-spirited drunk. So far as I know, you haven’t yet denied those descriptions. That’s not proof that the descriptions are true, but it’s evidence that they might be true.

        It’s impossible to say for sure, but your comments don’t read to me as those of a beer drinker. They read more like the work of a “pint a night” man who likes to sip his whiskey. Jack Daniels? Jim Beam?

        As for me being “without wisdom,” you may be right. But I am not “without God”. For over 30 years, He’s had His hand on me, pushing me where He wants me to go, and sometimes even letting me understand why. Sometimes He lets me “see”. In A.D. 2006, He put me in circumstances where I was called and allowed to “see” that the drug laws are based on the presumption that modern man is merely an “animal”. The laws establishing that presumption had been on the books since A.D. 1906 and, so far as I know, I may be the first laymen to have read and understood the spiritual significance of those laws in a century. I knew the moment I read the phrases “man or other animals” that the Good LORD was letting me “see”. That insight is no tribute to me. But it is evidence that I’ve been “called”–at least once in a while.

        This “calling” doesn’t make me the least bit better than anyone else. I may be the last man on this blog to be saved. Maybe I won’t be saved. But, for reasons I do not understand, I remain both convinced and amazed that I’ve been “called”. So, while you may be right in describing me as “without wisdom,” the fact remains that I’ve been called. I have a chance at salvation. Good enough. It’s more than I deserve. I am grateful.

        Your comment that my “claim that Jesus is [your]red-hearted step son, only proves you live in the curse and YOUR contempt for anyone who merely quotes the law or the manuscript…is disgusting” is false. Perhaps your error is accidental, perhaps not. In fact, I made no reference to a “red-hearted step son”. I referred to a “red-headed step son”0–that’s a fairly common metaphor used to describe children chosen for abuse. Your reference to a “red-hearted step son” may be merely accidental, but if I were a Freudian I might find your word choice both revealing, significant and even chilling. I’m not sure what “red-hearted” means but, for me, the term seems to suggest something demonic. I said nothing nothing about Jesus being “red-hearted”. You did.

        More, I did not claim that Jesus is your red-hearted/headed step son. What I wrote was, “You write about Christianity as if the Messiah was your red-haired stepson.” I didn’t write a “claim”. I wrote a metaphor. Your conclusion that my “claim” is “disgusting” is groundless and false.

        If there was any claim that Jesus is your “red-hearted step son,” I didn’t make that claim, but you may have done so. There is something about the word choice “red-hearted step son” that is disturbing. Maybe you made that word choice by accident. Maybe not. But I’ve never heard the term before, I don’t really know what it means but, in relation to the Messiah, it strikes me as something strange, almost unnerving.

         
      • TJ

        July 9, 2015 at 7:27 PM

        He’ll be back… probably as Hillary Clinton. Once again you aspostate I never said “I AM” I said “I am” a total different context… just like John [Doe and JOHN DOE … you are too thick skinned and skulled to know the difference… Hope to NEVER hear from you again…

         
    • Mark Twang

      July 23, 2015 at 8:35 PM

      @ He plays the fool with more conviction and persistence than anyone else ever has, but he also makes enough intelligent comments to make his presence tolerable.
      Do you think what Dea says in HER messages on July 8, 2015 at 8:42 AM; and, July 8, 2015 at 6:29 PM are intolerable? 3 letters, YES, will be understood that we, ALL of US NEED to say bye bye. AND, WE WILL, just 3 little letters will get the job done. WE do INVITE you to LISTEN to what Jonathan Chan says on the 8 minute video. IF ANYONE cannot SEE & UNDERSTAND what he is saying It’s HOPELESS for ANYONE who cannot & will not HEAR HIM. If this makes you laugh, THEN LAUGH!!

       
  14. Adask

    July 9, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    Sometimes, you’re like an abused child. You tend to see everything said about you as an attack on you.

    I was writing to TJ but only, briefly, about you. Did I tell a lie about you? How many readers of this blog would deny that you can be and have frequently been, a “pain in the butt”. You’re not as bad as you were. After banning you, what, six times? Ten? You seem to have become somewhat domesticated and even respectful of others.

    As for your latest pseudonym “Dea” meaning “Drug Enforcement Agency,” all I can say is You sure are a clever one! Golly, I would never have guessed. Not in a million years.

    It galls me that I never kept score to see how many times you were banned, how many different names you’ve used, etc. I’d even like to know how many times you’ve quit this blog.

    Matter of fact, didn’t you quit this blog forever about two weeks ago? And now you’re quitting again. But this time, it’s for real, right?

    I’ll put a candle in the window.

    Take the weekend off. I’ll expect you back by Monday.

     
    • Bart Shavitz

      July 10, 2015 at 10:09 AM

      Alfred Adask,
      It truly does appear that a Christian to you, must fit in with your perception of what a Christian is. King David said, Oh how I LOVE your law. I meditate upon it all day long. BUT !!! King David ALSO SAID, “LORD, How I hate those who hate You,and detest those who rebel against You? I hate them with extreme hatred; Psalm 139:21,22. A RATDROPPER is anyone who says someone is disrespectful, etc., without saying HOW. Let me explain. It should not be too HARD for you or Roger, Toland, & Henry to cut & paste the nasty, disrespectful, etc., comments, of the nasty,etc., poster, to prove or explain your point,instead of what all FOUR of you only saying what you believe. I have noticed that certain posters cut & paste a comment from another, then under the cut & paste, IS, his/her response. THEN YOU, by your response, you come down on that poster thinking that poster SAID what that poster was responding to. You apparently overlook what the Nasty poster said, BUT!! You REBUKE another poster for responding to the Nasty Poster, Apparently you think the Responder made the Nasty, etc., comment.

       
    • Allen Curtis

      July 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM

      Re: Sometimes, you’re like an abused child.
      Children of the Elohim ARE abused & persecuted. Not a thing odd about that. it’s the DEGREE of understanding. The more you know, the more you will be mocked, ridiculed, slandered & abused.

       
  15. Bart Shavitz

    July 9, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    Re: Take the weekend off. I’ll expect you back by Monday.
    You expect a lot. I don’t think Dea is that stupid. Alfred, you can sell a Double Cheese Whopper to a vegetarian. :-) D

     
    • Adask

      July 9, 2015 at 2:10 PM

      I don’t expect a lot. I mostly expect more of the same. I’m seldom disappointed

      What makes you think that “Dea” isn’t that stupid? Do you know him personally?

      It is odd that just hours after Dea “departs forever” from this blog (for the 8th or 10th time), that Bart Shavitz appears and makes what may be his first comment ever. Odd how “Bart” (who I don’t recall having made a single previous comment) would still be so aware of “Dea” that “Bart” would stand up for him.

      How strange, hmm?

       
      • Bart Shavitz

        July 10, 2015 at 4:32 AM

        Re: Bart” (who I don’t recall having made a single previous comment) would still be so aware of “Dea” that “Bart” would stand up for him.

        Re: How strange, hmm?

        Not strange however that Jethro would stand up for YOU & against the beloved Colin though. Jethro was right in my opinion. As far as Dea goes, “SHE is a “blog buddy.” I told Dea her “ideas” on Martial Law being “the State of this State” of things, Bill Moyer video,The Secret Government the “National Security Act of 1947”, the statement by Admiral Gene Larocque, in the Bill Moyer video on a state of “perpetual emergency” would very likely be ignored because all of the posters have their own preconceived ideas of the who,what, why, when, where, etc. Alfred, sometimes you say things that would almost persuade the unaware that you are the modern day Prophet of the “Elohim” not just a “guard on the wall.”

         
  16. Toland

    July 9, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Alfred,

    You and your blog are being treated with contempt by Les Fuchs. Isn’t that completely obvious by now? You’re being taunted and slapped in the face. The same narcissistic buffoon you banned as Les Fuchs, Sparky, Sparks, Sparky the Dullard, Don, Don Bailey, Morningstar, Ironhead, etc., didn’t suddenly “find religion”, but merely changed tactics to continue disrespecting you and your blog without getting banned.

    The ideas this blog has to offer deserve better than being discredited in the minds of newcomers by high volumes of childish madness in the comment threads. Blogs that involve politics and the law are naturally going to attract disagreement and even heated argument – an intelligent and original blog makes a great setting to hash things out. Except, what “Miss America” contributes here is not in earnest, but is frivolous.

    To continue posting, under false pretenses, Les Fuchs will change usernames as often as necessary to deceive you and the readers of your blog. Experience proves this. So why not make a rule against the offending behavior itself? Simply state that this blog is about ideas, not people, and any comment mentioning another commenter is out of bounds and subject to instant deletion. Only a troll would object to such a rule. That should neutralize Les Fuchs on a more permanent basis.

     
    • TJ

      July 9, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      Documents leaked by Snowden also reveal that government agents have been conducting denial-of-service attacks, flooding social media websites with thinly veiled propaganda and have been purposely attempting to warp public discourse online. If we do not stand up and object to this kind of Orwellian behavior, it is only going to get worse and worse.

      In the UK, the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG) is a specialized unit within the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). If it wasn’t for Edward Snowden, we probably still would never have heard of them. This particular specialized unit is engaged in some very questionable online activities. The following is an excerpt from a recent piece by Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Fishman

      Though its existence was secret until last year, JTRIG quickly developed a distinctive profile in the public understanding, after documents from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed that the unit had engaged in dirty trick like deploying sexual honey traps designed to discredit targets, launching denial-of-service attacks to shut down Internet chat rooms, pushing veiled propaganda onto social networks and generally warping discourse online.

      We are told that JTRIG only uses these techniques to go after the bad guys.

      But precisely who are the bad guys?

      It turns out that their definition of who the bad guys are is quite broad. Here is more from Glenn Greenwald and Andrew Fishman

      JTRIG’s domestic and law enforcement operations are made clear. The report states that the controversial unit currently collaborates with other agencies including the Metropolitan police, Security Service (MI5), Serious Organized Crime Agency (SOCA), Border Agency, Revenue and Customs (HMRC), and National Public Order and Intelligence Unit (NPOIU). The document highlights that key JTRIG objectives include providing intelligence for judicial outcomes; monitoring domestic extremist groups such as the English Defense League by conducting online HUMINT denying, deterring or dissuading criminals and hacktivists; and deterring, disrupting or degrading online consumerism of stolen data or child porn.

      Particularly disturbing to me is the phrase domestic extremist groups. What does someone have to say or do to be considered an extremist? For example, the English Defense League is a non-violent street protest movement in the UK that is strongly against the spread of radical Islam and sharia law in the UK. So if they are extremists, how many millions upon millions of ordinary citizens in the United States would fit that definition?

      When conducting operations against extremists, psychology-based influence techniques are among the tools that JTRIG uses to combat them online. The following comes from one of the documents that was posted by Greenwald and Fishman

      Psychology-Based Influence Techniques

      In other words, these government trolls try to mess with people’s minds.

      And here is another document that was posted by Greenwald and Fishman that talks about how JTRIG uses YouTube, Facebook and Twitter to accomplish their goals

      Government Trolls

      It is very disturbing to think that some of the people that we may be interacting with on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter are actually paid government agents that are purposely trying to feed us propaganda and misinformation.

      And of course this kind of thing does not just happen in the United Kingdom. In Canada, it has been publicly admitted that the government uses paid trolls to warp Internet discourse. The following comes from Natural News

      You’ve probably run into them before those seemingly random antagonizes who always end up diverting the conversation in an online chat room or article comment section away from the issue at hand, and towards a much different agenda. Hot-button issues like illegal immigration, the two-party political system, the war on terror and even alternative medicine are among the most common targets of such attackers, known as internet trolls or shills, who in many cases are nothing more than paid lackeys hired by the federal government and other international organizations to sway and ultimately control public opinion.

      Several years ago, Canada’s CTV News aired a short segment about how its own government had been exposed for hiring secret agents to monitor social media and track online conversations, as well as the activities of certain dissenting individuals. This report, which in obvious whitewashing language referred to such activities as the government simply weighing in and correcting allegedly false information posted online, basically admitted that the Canadian government had assumed the role of secret online police.

       
    • Adask

      July 10, 2015 at 1:30 AM

      I’ve said previously that this blog is about ideas not personalities. Your recommendation that those who deal in personalities be instantly banned is a good idea, but not easily enforced. Where do you draw the line? What happens when reader “A” makes comments that praise reader “B” who is arguing with reader “C”? Can reader “A’s” comments be interpreted as criticism against reader “C”? If reader “C” (who’s known to make intelligent and insight comments) replies by suggesting that reader “A” is “grossly mistaken” be interpreted as crossing the line from “ideas” to “personalities”?

      Ideally, blogs like this one might operate on the “honor system” where those who comment are sufficiently self-disciplined to avoid making “personal” comments.

      In reality, it’s not only hard to draw a clear line between ideas and personalities, it’s even contrary to sense of personal involvement that attracts some to blogs in the first place.

      In the end, there should be some sense of balance. Perhaps each commentator should be encouraged and allowed to make (at least) 80% of his comments on strictly ideas, and a maximum of 20% that are “personal” in nature. Or maybe it should be 90% to 10%.

      In the end, enforcement of a rule favoring ideas and condemning personality-based comments would be hard to enforce on an objective basis. Feelings would be hurt. I’d be blamed. We’d lose some our best commentators.

      Enforcement of the “rule” is not objective. It’s subjective. I don’t like to intrude, but if I have to, I’ll warn the person who’s become an “issue” a time or two or three. I’ll try to persuade him/her to mind his manners and behave “civilly” on this blog. But some people simply have personalities that are compelled to aggravate others. They’re like children hollering “lookit me! lookit meeee!” they don’t actually have anything to say, but they’re determined to say “something”. They think graffiti is cool so they “bomb” blogs like this one with mindless comments. Some people are amateur trolls. Some might be professional trolls. If “trollish” disruptions persist, I’ll start to delete some of their comments. If the offender still doesn’t get the message, if I have to I’ll ban him/her.

      I can’t run this blog like a Nazi concentration camp, but I can’t run it like a circus on LSD, either. There’s a line somewhere between the two, but I don’t know exactly where it is.

       
      • Toland

        July 10, 2015 at 5:21 AM

        Just enforcement of rules is difficult, I agree. I would also reiterate that the clown is doing real damage to this blog by turning off potential participants. Folks drop by, check out the comments, see them clogged up with off-topic personal attacks of no apparent rhyme or reason, then conclude it’s not worth hanging around this loony bin.

        Your policy of giving fair warning seems like the right compromise. Of course it’s no good banning someone just for getting excited while talking politics. Discussions get heated, etc. However, after a few direct “ideas, not personalities” warnings, it’ll be clear when someone is deliberately flaunting the new rule. In such cases the banhammer can be wielded without fear of being a Nazi.

         
    • Bart Shavitz

      July 10, 2015 at 8:07 AM

      Re:You, Toland, saying to Alfred Adask, “You’re being taunted and slapped in the face. You and your blog are being treated with contempt”.

      Now I take what YOU, Toland, say,to be an INSULT to Alfred. YOU, Toland, telling Alfred this as though Alfred needs you to enlighten him? I wonder IF your message is ANOTHER one Alfred just does not SEE & READ. Now, IF Dea, or, Les said what you did, I am inclined to believe that Alfred WOULD have SEEN & read (<Red) THEIR comment saying the SAME thing YOU, Toland, said. AND, Alfred most certainly would have SEEN that his perceptive ability IS DULL compared to either one of them but of course not to YOU, & of course, your, bedpartners, Roger & Henry.

       
    • Roger

      July 10, 2015 at 5:02 PM

      Toland > “change usernames as often as necessary to deceive you and the readers of your blog”

      How about a rule against this also?

      Anyone changing their username in order to deceive Al and his readers into the false belief that the old and new usernames correspond to different people should be banned for that act of dishonesty alone.

       
      • Adask

        July 10, 2015 at 6:23 PM

        I tend to agree. While changing names is, on one level, harmless–on another level it’s certainly deceptive and something that approaches lying.

         
      • Allen Curtis

        July 20, 2015 at 10:50 AM

        rOgEr,
        @ Anyone changing their username in order to deceive Al and his readers into the false belief that the old and new usernames correspond to different people should be banned for that act of dishonesty alone.
        WHAT ABOUT THE COMMENT ITSELF? THE COMMENT IS WHAT IS EITHER DECEIVING OR IS NOT DECEIVING !! ARE YOU SO WEAK-MINDED YOU HAVE TO KNOW “WHO” IS MAKING THE COMMENT BEFORE YOU CAN KNOW IF THE COMMENT IS DECEIVING? :-) D

         
    • Bart Shavitz

      July 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM

      Toland,
      Re: To continue posting, under false pretenses, Les Fuchs will change usernames as often as necessary to deceive you and the readers of your blog. Experience proves this.
      Toland, what is the current username? I want to read a comment made by hmi/her.

       
    • Allen Curtis

      July 14, 2015 at 12:09 PM

      tOlAnD,
      @ Alfred
      @ > You and your blog are being treated with contempt by Les Fuchs. Isn’t that completely obvious by now? You’re being taunted and slapped in the face. The same narcissistic buffoon you banned as Les Fuchs, Sparky, Sparks, Sparky the Dullard, Don, Don Bailey, Morningstar, Ironhead, etc., didn’t suddenly “find religion”, but merely changed tactics to continue disrespecting you and your blog without getting banned.
      Alfred is the Watchman on the wall for the people. You, Toland, and,Henry, and, Roger, are the Watchmen on this blog, for Alfred. We all need somebody. Thanks for your help & concern.

      To: Alfred,
      My dear Alfred,
      If Your mind is running a mile a minute now, still no one “seems” to know what’s going on in your head. :-) However, :-) the speed of your thoughts may be impacting your clarity without you realizing it. :-) Although your self-confidence may be on the rise, it actually helps if you don’t think about every little thing that is bothering you.:-) Instead, give yourself permission to pursue the activities that make your heart sing. As you express your energy in a positive manner, your joy will ripple out and reverberate through the lives of “those others”. :-)
      Get it? D
      moon, how R YA? :-) D

       
  17. Adask

    July 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM

    Let’s give the TJ personality issues a rest for a little while. Let’s try to do ideas moreso than personalities.

     

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