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02 Jan

The "Sorcery" of End-Times "Babylon"? [courtesy Google Images]

The “Sorcery” of End-Times “Babylon”?
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A reader asked,

 

“So Al,

Q1)  What happens when the dollar crashes?

Q2)  “How will we then buy and sell?

Q3)  “Is this Revelation 18 in our faces?”

 

Al:  Our debt-based monetary system has produced a debt-based economy that is so strange and irrational that we’re now deep into “uncharted waters”.  As a result, no one really knows what might follow a dollar crash.

However, we can speculate.

For example, a dollar “crash” doesn’t necessarily mean that the dollar suddenly ceases to exist.  There could be a partial collapse wherein the dollar might still exist, but its value might suddenly fall by, say, 50% or 75%.  Maybe more.  Gasoline that cost $2/gallon yesterday, might cost $10/gallon today or next month.  We’d tend to slip into hyperinflation like that of the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe.  Prices could begin to rise every week, every day, every hour.

This hyper-inflation would be great for debtors (like the US government) since they’d be able to repay their debts with cheaper dollars.  On the other hand, hyperinflation would tend to destroy creditors since they’d be robbed when they were forced to accept these cheaper (inflated) dollars as payments for debts.

While the “crashed” dollar survived but continued to inflate and lose purchasing power, you might only rarely find any gasoline, or milk or potato chips for sale at any price denominated in paper or digital dollars.  Some other fiat currencies might continue as a viable means to purchase goods and services.  So long as there was anything available to be bought and sold, gold would hold, or gain, in value.

In anticipation of such problems, you might do well to stock up now on whatever you might need but be unable to afford in the event of a dollar “crash”.

 

•  As alternative to a partial collapse of the dollar, we might suffer a sudden and complete dollar “crash” that takes everyone by surprise. One day the dollar works.  Then next day it’s worthless.  That scenario strikes me as extremely unlikely.

If there’s going to be a complete dollar crash, it will probably be orchestrated and instigated by the government.  President Obama will take the podium with a stern look in his eye and say something like,

 

“My fellow Americans, I must speak to you today with great sadness as I announce that the dollar has crashed and, as of tomorrow, will be deemed to be basically worthless.”

Well, if President Obama, Janet Yellen, or anyone else in authority starts to make that speech, you can bet they’ll continue by explaining that, “Starting tomorrow, you’ll be able to trade your green paper dollars for new-and-improved pink paper dollars”—at a ratio of, say, ten “greenbacks” for one, shiny new “pinkback”.

My point is that it seems unlikely that The Powers That Be will cause or allow the current dollar to completely crash without:  1) their approval and control; and, 2) having an alternative monetary system already in place and ready to go.

As long as some kind of “dollar” exists, we may be impoverished, but we’ll still be able to buy and sell.

 

A2:  However, if we had a complete dollar crash and there were no government-prepared alternative, your second question (“How will we buy or sell”) is extremely interesting since, if the dollar crashed, we wouldn’t simply run short on dollars—there’d be no credit.

Most of our current buying and selling is done with credit.  Even our paper checks are a form of credit since the seller isn’t actually paid until the check clears your bank.  We live and work according to the slogan, “Buy Now, Pay Later.”

But if the dollar crashed, the slogan would become, “ Buy Now, Pay Now.”  That means, no credit.

 

•  If the dollar crashed and credit disappeared and you wanted to buy some chicken to feed your family, what could you use to persuade the grocer to give you some chicken?

The answer is “barter”.  You trade some of your property to the grocer for some of his property (the chicken).

OK—barter it is.

But what do you have to trade that the grocer might deem worthy of five pounds of chicken?    Maybe that Big Wheels tricycle you bought for Billy last Christmas or some of the other plastic junk you’ve got piled up in your garage?  Your computer?  Your bed, your couch, your TV?  What do you have and/or what can you produce that anyone’s likely to want after a dollar collapse?

For barter to work, everyone must have some property that others would want in the chaos following a dollar collapse.

For barter to work for long, most people must have a job whereby they personally produce something of value that they can trade with others who are also producers.  Barter is unlikely to work for long for those who are non-productive and welfare-, subsidy-, or pension-dependent.

I’d bet that 70% of Americans don’t have anything to barter that others would want after a dollar collapse.  Ohh, you might be able to “barter” your $1,000 flat-screen TV for five pounds of chicken (maybe even ten pounds).  But how long will you be able to trade your “stuff” at fire sale prices before there’s nothing left in your house to trade but the trim around the windows and doors?

If the dollar crashes, and credit crashes, and barter doesn’t work because you’ve got virtually nothing to barter, How will you buy and sell?

Maybe if you had a stash of cigarettes, toilet paper, or gold and silver coins, you’d have something to barter.  Maybe if you had the tools necessary to fix someone’s plumbing or replace a broken door, you’d have something to barter.

But, if the dollar crashed and credit crashed and you didn’t have anything in your house to barter other than the usual do-dads that everyone seems to own—you might not be able to buy or sell in the event of a dollar crash.   Then what?

Maybe you’d have some gold or silver.  You could “barter” with that.  Maybe you could use those coins to buy some tools or even a viable business that might support you through the “crash” period.

 

A3)  Which brings us to your third question concerning Revelation 18—which describes the economic collapse associated with End Times.   According to Chapter 18, there is a moment coming when all commerce—especially, international commerce– is shut down.

The person posing these questions didn’t specify whichever verses in Revelation 18 that he was talking about, so I’ll pick a few and comment as the spirit moves me.

 

•  Revelation 18:11 “And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her [Babylon]; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:”

References to “merchants” and “merchandise” make clear that the essence of the End-Times collapse will be commercial in nature.  Commerce will fail.

More, the phase “merchants  of the earth” indicates that this End Times collapse is global in nature.  International commerce will surely fail.  Domestic commerce will be impaired.

 

•  Revelation 18:15 “The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!”

Again, the reference to “merchants” makes clear that the essential consequence of the Revelation 18 collapse is a global failure of commerce, or at least of international trade.

The references to “by her,” “stand far off” and “that great city” indicates that Babylon is a specific and limited entity—a particular state or nation.  We can infer that that nation is central to the world’s commerce.  More, something happens to “Babylon” that is so horrific that people dare not go near.  The collapse is not merely “OMG!–we’re in a depression” wherein everyone in “Babylon” is impoverished, but you can walk freely among them.   The End-Times collapse is so violent that the “merchants” of the world, as an act of self-preservation, must “stand far off”.  This implies that either the people of Babylon will become as violent as starving cannibals, or Babylon will suffer some sort of physical destruction comparable to the result of a thermo-nuclear attack.

By producing most of the products for sale on the global markets, China has become central to the world’s commerce.  But I doubt that anyone seriously believes that that the End-Times references to “Babylon” are intended to mean “China”.

If the Bible is true, End-Times “Babylon” must be the one nation that is central to the world’s commerce.  That “Babylon” may be (as President Obama said) “the one, essential, exceptional nation”—the United States.  If so, the sad and scary truth may be that if Revelation 18 comes into play, the “Babylon” that John the Revelator wrote about 2,000 years ago, is probably the United States.

Nevertheless, there are a few other candidates for the role of End Times Babylon.  Revelation 18:15 describes “Babylon” as “that great city”.   The financial district in London, England is called “The City” and is deeply involved in global commerce.  I wouldn’t say that “The City” of provides a probable answer to the End Times Babylon mystery, but it’s a contender.

Then there’s “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH” seen at Revelation 17:3-5.  Many believe that “Babylon” is code for the Catholic Church.  Others believe it’s the EU (revived Roman Empire).

In fact, there are several other references to End-Times “Babylon” in the Bible.  Some of those references are contradictory, so we don’t yet really know who/what will be the End-Times “Babylon”.

 

•  Even so, one of the essential descriptions of that End-Times “Babylon” is seen in Revelation 18:23:

 

“And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee [Babylon]; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.”

 

If we had to pick just one nation whose “merchants” had become “the great men of the earth,” which nation would that be?

Uh-huh.

 

•  More, I don’t know for sure what the Bible means by “sorceries” that were able to deceive all of the nations on earth.  How many nations can be deemed to have deceived the whole world?  Not many.  Maybe only one.

It occurs to me that those “sorceries” might refer to one or more fundamental falsehoods in the modern Catholic or Christian faiths.  But I doubt that’s true.

For me, there’s only one, modern phenomenon that might be described as a “sorcery” that’s “deceived all the nations” of the world:  The current, debt-based monetary system where people are “deceived” into accepting paper and digital currencies (that can be spun out of thin air) as payments for their goods and services

For me, tricking people of the world into working all their lives for mere scraps of paper is a kind of “sorcery”.

If so, whoever is primarily responsible for the world’s current debt-based monetary system would be the most-likely candidate to be End-Times “Babylon”.

And what nation is primarily responsible for the world’s debt-based monetary system . . . ?

Uh-huh.

 

•  Why does Revelation emphasize that we won’t be able to “buy or sell“?

One answer may be that the “Babylonian” money system has failed and therefore “buying and selling” is virtually impossible.

Another question might be Why do we need to “buy or sell”?

The answer to that one may be that Babylon must buy because Babylon can’t produce enough to support itself. Individuals must “buy” food from “merchants” because those individuals can’t grow their own food or produce their other needs.  Babylon appears to be a nation or system populated by people who are dependents who must rely on others to provide their food, clothing and shelter.   Perhaps there are no truly independent, self-sufficient men and women in Babylon.

Productive people living like farmers or mountain men might be able to support themselves and their families in the midst of an End-Times collapse.  Non-productive (and therefore dependent) people living as welfare recipients, subsidy recipients, retirees or even children may tend to starve and perish.

 

•  All of this implies that, if there’s a dollar collapse, and you and I are in, or dependent on, “Babylon,” the proper question might not be “How we will buy or sell?” but, rather, “How will we get right with God?”

We shall see.

 

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5 responses to “Questions, We Get Questions

  1. Bruce

    January 2, 2016 at 4:40 PM

    “My point is that it seems unlikely that The Powers That Be will cause or allow the current dollar to completely crash without: 1) their approval and control; and, 2) having an alternative monetary system already in place and ready to go” – Alfred, what about the possibility of a “cashless” alternative monetary system? It’s “working” for Sweden, no?

     
    • Adask

      January 2, 2016 at 7:41 PM

      “Cashless” is an alternative monetary system. It’s all digital dollars and no paper dollars.

      We’re almost “cashless,” now. I’ve seen one recent estimate that seems credible that there may already be only $250 billion in paper cash in the US economy. If that’s true, at least 90%, maybe 95%, of all US transactions are completed with something other than cash.

      But “cashless” isn’t easy. What do you do with the homeless? They won’t be able to beg for cash anymore. It won’t be easy to find them and give them plastic cards that they might use. What happens to gambling (one of our bigger industries) without cash? Some estimate ILLEGAL sports gambling to run $400 billion per year. Total gambling might run over $1 trillion per year. Can our $16 trillion annual GDP withstand the loss of $1 trillion in gambling transactions?

      Could Las Vegas survive without cash? Would a cashless Las Vegas be reduced to the status of a ghost town?

      What about prostitution? Drug-dealing? Illegal aliens? Does the government really want an end to prostitution, drug-dealing and illegal aliens? How can any of those institutions survive without cash?

      How will the illegal aliens get a purely-digital debit card? Will the Border Patrol hand them out like party favors to everyone who crosses the border? How will the American people react to a government that openly rewards illegals for entering this country? Will the illegals continue to flood into this country if they can’t work for cash?

      How many people depend on cash (drug dealers, for example) to feed their families? What will they and their families do if cash suddenly disappears? Sit quietly in abject poverty? Or riot and steal?

      What if, in a cashless society, all of those “criminal elements” that previously depended on cash simply got real jobs? Would the influx of new, “legal” workers increase the demand for jobs and decrease the average wage? Would the people who currently make $25/hour in our cash-allowed society be happy voters if they realized the new and noble “cashless” society cut they hourly income to $20/hour?

      Does government really want to stop allowing the lower classes to use drugs that render them politically impotent? If government eliminates cash, a lot of poor people who are currently stoned will become sober and politically active. Does government really want that? Or–with the onset of a cashless monetary system–will government want to legal drugs so the poor can stay pleasantly stoned?

      How many people in serious positions of power profit from illegal drugs and want drug-dealing to persist? Some people believe the CIA, Bank of America and other major institutions have been accused of being involved in drug trafficking. If that were true and we became fully “cashless,” how much income will those institutions lose?

      If we’re going to have a cashless monetary system, does government need to inject some monthly, minimum-subsistence level of welfare into each card? Where will the homeless and illegal aliens get the digital currency to survive each month if not from government welfare? If the homeless receive, say, $800 in digital dollars on the first of each month find themselves targeted by thieves to be robbed of their cards on the first of each month? Will thugs steal the homeless people’s cards? Or will hackers find a way to rob the homeless and/or you and me? Will the homeless learn to falsely claim to have been robbed by hackers and demand an “instant refund” of whatever sum they’ve claimed to have lost?

      I have no doubt that government wants to go cashless, but that won’t be an easy objective to implement. A cashless monetary system might cut the economy by $1 or $2 trillion each year. Can the economy take that hit without sliding deeper into recession or even collapsing?

      A “cashless” monetary system and the largely-unrestricted immigration of Muslim immigrants may be appearing to work in Sweden. But are they?

      You can bet that, if we go “cashless,” the government at the local, county, state and federal levels will subtract their taxes from each transaction. That subtraction will show us all just how big government really is. Is that information the government wants the people to understand?

      I’ll bet that one-third of American adults don’t file or pay income taxes right now. If we go “cashless” those non-taxpayers will suddenly start paying taxes and their marginal standards of income will be significantly reduced. Will they accept that reduction or riot? Can the economy support the imposition of taxes on tens of millions of people who are currently living “tax free”?

      And, as I’ve already implied, given that a cashless monetary system will be all digital, it will be a hacker’s dream. A system that allows access by 300 million Americans cannot be very secure. If the system is open to all 300 million Americans, it will almost necessarily open to hacking by both domestic and foreign 8th graders.

      If it were true that a cashless monetary system would be easily hacked and robbed, what would people do whenever they had wealth deposited into their digital accounts? In order to prevent being hacked would they instantly turn their digital wealth into something physical that was harder to steal? I don’t know, but that conjecture strikes me as possible. If they couldn’t turn their digital money into paper dollars (they’d be outlawed and worthless in a cashless society) would they buy gold or silver coins? That’s an unlikely idea, but it points out that a cashless monetary system might give birth to a significantly different culture.

      Some people estimate that 80% of all the paper dollars on the face of the earth are held in foreign countries. What happens to that currency if cash become illegal in the US? Insofar as the cash held overseas is part of the basis for the dollar being the World Reserve Currency, will a new, purely-digital dollar be able to retain World Reserve Currency status?

      “Cashless” is easy to say, but it strikes me as very hard to do.

      I recognize that government could implement a true “cashless” monetary system tomorrow–but I just don’t see how the resulting cashless society could be quickly or painlessly implemented.

      I’ve seen one estimate that 80% of the world’s people rely on cash every day of their lives. Can a cashless society–and a 100% cashless commercial system in the US–fully integrate into a world economy where 80% rely on cash? I don’t doubt that that integration is possible, but I expect that integration will be slightly impeded. Can our economy easily sustain such impediments?

      My guess is that cash will be with us at least until we totally dump the dollar. At worst, government will slowly tighten the screws until cash is completely squeezed out of our society. But I don’t expect an Executive Order that suddenly outlaws all cash anytime soon.

      I could be wrong, but I expect cash to be around at least until we abandon the current “dollar”. and replace it with something that’s purely digital. .

       
  2. MPK

    January 2, 2016 at 5:31 PM

    Revelation 17:3-5King James Version (KJV)

    3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

    4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

    5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

    Unfortunately by only showing a portion gives false understanding, to which is the failure of many with very little understanding that lead others astray but may give your understanding creditability, as its an well used ploy used by many to give credence to their understanding which is only half truths being told and understood.

    When understanding all must be included other wise you are a fool, and you fool others.

    The key as to who Babylon the great it is found in rev 17-6.

    Revelation 17:6 King James Version (KJV)

    And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    Commerce and the Monetary system is combined, but not the main topic of evil being spoken about, but is just a part of the old corrupt falling world system, which has been designed to collapse when its planned to be set to be destroyed.

    The only power to be drunken with the blood of saints has been a church. and it is the catholic church, based upon the only church upon seven hills, and as all this time as so much evidence is known of its crimes, its deceit, and its bring into itself all other religions which is deemed by GOD as a harlot and it shall be destroyed, but by the beast that will destroy it. One evil destroying but another evil, to which Satan does and even deceives his own followers to their doom and death.

    God does not lie, nor does the comforter sent by Jesus to guide as to the understanding of the end times, the monetary system is just a part to introduce a new world wide system which is cashless that contains the mark of the beast in the forehead which mean thoughts of who except it, and in the hand means those who use it to buy and sell. Only a complete world collapse can the beast achieve total control over.

    Yes when a collapse of the cash monetary system will be complete world wide and the catholic church will then be destroyed also at that time by the beast when it takes action and goes for full control.

    GOD’s understanding will be known unto his true children nor shall they be led astray by those who seek not the whole truth and nothing but the truth of what shall come and be, as the truth is already been unsealed as you are in the end times and among the most wicked generation that shall be or ever was to come of the last generation born, and evil born wants what it was promised in this last generation.

    MPK.

     
  3. peg-powers

    January 3, 2016 at 2:46 PM

    First of the Christian martyrs was the beloved John the Baptist. The PTB cut off his head and put it in a delivery basket. The PTB crucified the Son of God. The PTB stoned Stephen until his head was smashed to a pulp.

    There was no Catholic Church, no Pope at that time.

    Babylon’s compromisers (whores) had their origin in Babylon and have perfected their goals and methods down through the centuries. They took over the Roman Empire and also the City of the Vatican with all its officers. I think you’ll find that scripture reveals these truths…..and a good search of dozens of history books does also.

     
  4. dog-move

    January 4, 2016 at 11:03 AM

    Peg-powers I have heard the skull of John the Baptist is in the District of Columbia, as the occultic powers that be derive power from it. This was revealed in the DVD DC Street Sorcery.
    Ever heard of the DVD DC Street Sorcery? Good to see.
    Their was no C.C or Pope, but there existed Pharaseeism, the same thing I suppose as the C.C.

     

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