Hillary Won

26 Sep

Debate #1 [courtesy Google Images]

Debate #1
[courtesy Google Images]

Deciding who won the first Clinton-Trump debate is somewhat subjective.  Some will insist Hillary won; others will claim the victor was The Donald.  The result was close enough to a tie, that either side might claim victory.

After the 95-minute Clinton-Trump debate, there was a “reaction” panel composed of 5 or 6 people who analyzed who won or lost the debate.  That panel seemed to agree that the debate was a “wash”–neither candidate won or lost in an absolute sense.  But, they also seemed to agree (except for Katie Couric) that, if anyone won that debate (barely), it was Trump.

As a man whose reaction to Hillary goes much deeper than dislike, I can say I hope the “reaction” panel was right. I hope Trump won, even it the victory was only marginal.

I missed the first half-hour of the Clinton-Trump debate.  However, based on the last hour, I saw the debate as a victory for Hillary.  To me, Trump seemed a little anxious, slightly conciliatory, and even somewhat fearful.  Hillary (much to my surprise and displeasure) seemed more “presidential”.

She knew her facts.  She was articulate.  She spoke with confidence and without any fear I could detect.  She didn’t roll her eyes, bob her head or fall down in some sort of seizure.

I can’t stand Hillary, but she came across as a “pro” while Trump appeared to be something of a gifted amateur.

I’m writing this post about 45 minutes after the debate ended.  We’ll know who actually won or lost tonight’s debate when the post-debate polls come in.  I’m betting that the next polls will show that Trump (who was even with or slightly ahead of Hillary in the polls coming into the debate) will have lost about five points to Hillary.

I hope I’m wrong, but I have to give Hillary her due.  She did not look like a woman who was about to swoon.  She did not look like a woman who was afraid that she might suddenly lose control and swoon.  It galls me to say that she won the debate.  It wasn’t a decisive, contest-ending victory, but the victory was hers.

If Trump really lost tonight’s debate, why did he lose?

I’m guessing that his advisers convinced him to try to act “presidential”.  Trump attracted national attention and won the Republican primary election because he was brash, cocky, outspoken and confident.  That’s his nature.

When he tries to act “presidential,” he’s trying to act like someone other than himself.  I suspect that that “act” makes him a little unsure of himself–a little hesitant.  He can play the part of “Trump” with great confidence.   He plays the part of “presidential” with uncertainty that can be seen or sensed by the audience.

Hillary played the part of “likable” much better than Trump played the part of “presidential”.  If the real Trump debated the real Hillary, Trump would win by a landslide.  But, so long as “presidential” Trump is facing off against “likable” Hillary, Trump is still facing an uphill battle.

I know that Trump can get into a lot of trouble by just being “Trump,” shooting from the hip and making comments he may soon regret.  But I suspect that if he wants to win the second debate, Trump may have to be less “presidential” and more himself.

We shall see.


Posted by on September 26, 2016 in 2016 Election, Hillary for President, Trump



17 responses to “Hillary Won

  1. cathy baldwin

    September 26, 2016 at 11:59 PM

    I did not watch it. I am too fragile and emotional about the whole thing. This will be decided by God. Learning to trust in the Lord for the micro and macro is the actual issue of life, also to serve. IF the Donald wins, we will then find out if he is a good King or a bad King. If H.C. wins we will know we are on a faster track to some form of collapse, it seems. The political party (Liberal) that denies God, promotes and exports abortion, homosexuality, pornography, graft and corruption, legislates it and calls it good, will bring further judgement on America. Down this same road Israel travelled two thousand years ago.

  2. 4bluesun

    September 27, 2016 at 2:28 AM

    Trump won cause

  3. 4bluesun

    September 27, 2016 at 2:34 AM

    Trump won cause he comes across as real. Glad to see him set the record straight on his view about going to war in Iraq. I have not heard it before. Bernie’s election was stole from him in Nevada, Arizona, and California, and others. Too bad Bernie gave in, and also did not join up with Trump. We need the left, and right to come together like Ralph Nadar has this week in his workshops this week. Hillary gets in there we will go down much faster. At least Trump wants to investigate 911.

  4. dog-move

    September 27, 2016 at 12:40 PM

    The American people will do anything for entertainment. This was grade “B” acting at best. I suspect alot of beer and chips were purchased at the local grocery store yesterday. Good for the consumer economy. NFL action isn’t much different than the poor brinkmanship exhibited by the Clinton-Trump goblins. No winners here unless you want to go by what the Vegas crowd decided beforehand. Any gambers out there??

  5. wholy1

    September 27, 2016 at 1:45 PM

    Since the “Lame Scheme Media” debates are just an idiot cluster-fuck, Trump should do what he did before: demand that the “Media” corps donate the proceeds to the Vets and go back to his strong suite – back-to-back plane/train whistle-stops. He’s got both the momentum and the energy/health which the HildaBeast does NOT! It’s easy for the HildaBeast ops to get their “walking dead” cranked up on meds for 3-4 times of 90-min hoo-ha lying.

  6. Jay

    September 27, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    I didn’t watch the debate, and I won’t watch any of the debates. To me they are beyond a dog & pony show. So perhaps I’m not qualified to comment, but I’ll say this… anything that lends any kind of legitimacy to Crooked Hillary should be ignored in totality. Hilliary Clinton is a malignant cu*t, and anybody that supports her is a flipping moron.

    But in general… these debates mean nothing! And I would rather watch paint dry. Because the fact of the matter is, the time for talking our way out of this mess that we’re in has long since passed, and thus the only sane option remaining is to pick up a rifle and start this thing!

  7. kanani

    September 28, 2016 at 12:12 PM

    Americans still lose regardless. It’s a rigged game folks.

    National politics is highly scripted, very little is left to chance.

    Hillary was perhaps getting fed what to say through an earpiece. Why was she touching her face during the debate. Was she signaling to Lester Holt?

    Looked like some “table talk” to me, to use a gambling term.

    Trump is no better.

    Slave on.

  8. dog-move

    September 28, 2016 at 4:29 PM

    Until any of the persons running for the Mayor of the District of Columbia address the entry into the Congressional Record of March 17th 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303, The Bankruptcy of The United States, preferably in it’s entirety, they have no credibility.
    Surely most visitors to this blog know and have read this entry to the Congressional Record.
    In memory of The Honorable Representative, James Traficant Jr. A true statesman.
    If you haven’t read it yet, this is a must read.

  9. americafirst1

    September 28, 2016 at 10:01 PM

    Trump is on the right track on his key issues but he has to add CONTENT to make his point. He should’ve slammed Lester Holt right away when he mentioned something about 70 or so straight months of job growth where the Feds say during August there were 155,000 jobs created but no mentioned is made about the 1 million + people who filed for unemployment for the first time according to the Dept of Labor. Despite these lopsided figures the so-called unemployment rate stayed virtually the same which gives ‘voodo economics’ yet another moment in the sun.

    Another joke is hearing Hillary so concerned about creating new jobs when in fact she, Bill and many other sell outs shoved NAFTA / GATT down our collective throats despite the protests. 20 years later the results are in and we’ve lost thousands of factories thereby affecting millions of jobs & creating severe economic hardship for cities that used to be the Crown Jewels of our economy…..Detroit, Cleveland, etc.

    The illegal immigration mess is also beyond belief because for anyone who’s paid attention for the last 20-30 years we now find that these lawbreakers are treated like some kind of royalty with free housing, food, medical etc. and if that’s not enough they also get lump sum checks from the fedgov under an EITC type program than can be as much as $10K to 20K and if Ann Coulter is to be believed she mentioned recently on Hannitty’s show some of the checks have as high as $30,000!!!
    All this at a time when our vets cannot get the help they need yet the checkbook is wide open for law breakers…..effing un- believable! For another good report on this travesty do a search for: illegals exploit tax loopholes.

  10. hoodan2001

    September 29, 2016 at 9:34 AM

    Word is Hillary had different types of help, especially from Holt.

  11. palani

    September 30, 2016 at 7:59 AM

    In the Land of the Blind … a one-eyed man might be king.

    Hillary won the debate because in her world she is permitted to define what ‘winning’ is.

    Trump won the debate because in his world he is permitted to define what ‘winning’ is.

    Gamblers go to ‘Vegas to win so they can continue gambling until they have lost it all. Their definition of ‘winning’ is synonymous with the phrase ‘LEAVE TOWN BROKE’.

  12. GEORGE

    September 30, 2016 at 12:55 PM

    How The Trump-Clinton Debate Was Rigged

  13. dog-move

    October 1, 2016 at 10:46 AM

    This was more like a magic show. Their folly as with Jannes and Jambres defies the truth and cannot go on much longer. In time it will become obvious to everyone, maybe. The fraud known as the UNITED STATES is becoming known as an object of horror worldwide.
    Many have the pitch, the sticky pitch used to mortice the bricks of account (USD-UST) in their possession and/or on their hands. This is akin to one having blood on one’s hands. War is their enterprise and a profitable one at that!
    Many are bereft of any assets composed of just weights and measures and/or valuable consideration. The assets resemble building blocks of the man-made tower reaching to the heavens and are but an illusion. Yet, these are regarded as assets even valuble assets. No– these are stumbling-blocks. Psalms 119:110- ” The wicked have laid out a snarefor me, but I have not strayed from your paths”. 165- “Great peace for those who love your Law, no stumbling blocks for them”.
    They are devices; a crafty scheme and trick, a plan or scheme for effecting a purpose.

    The purpose is robbery, plunder, and conquest in an unseen theater of war.

    USD devices are creative Units of Legerdemain, circa 1580 A.D.commencing at or around the time of the invention of the printing press, continuing to this day.The USD is a decendant from the original prommisary notes issued from day one however far back as it goes. I suspect it goes back to the Garden, and has everything to do with the River Assur. We are just in the last stage of the 500 year war with began around 1080 A.D.
    From Sun Tzu “The Art of War” page 67 LI QUIN ” overcome your opponent by calculation”
    page 68 XANG XI- ” In military operations, what is valued is foiling the opponent’s stragegy, not in pitched battle”. Is the dumping units of legerdemain/USdollars a strategy of calculation and a manner of foiling the enemy using stumbling blocks against us?

    We who see what is happening and that which has occured since around A.D. 1580 are at a major advantage here. Honerable teachers have instructed us as to what we are to do to survive, even prosper. Get out of untis of legerdemain do not get the pitch of shed innocent blood on your hands. Shed blood of the enterprise of their wars are very profitable for these units, held as assets unwittingly by many.What can come of having these in your tent?

    John 4:38 ” i have sent you to reap a harvest you have not labored for, others have labored for it, and you come into the rewards of their labor”.

    Al you and countless others have over the years labored in the instruction of warfare tactics in this unseen war to those with eyes and ears to see and hear.Thanks for the wisdom now and in the future years. Wisdom is priceless and is true wealth.We shall prevail!

  14. Adask

    October 1, 2016 at 11:39 AM


    Thanks for the compliment.

    Thanks for reading my articles.

  15. dog-move

    October 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM

    CORRECTION— “The third river is named the Tigris, and this flows to the east of Ashur.”

    “The first is named the Pishon, and this winds all through the land of Havilah where there is gold.
    The gold of this country is pure; bdellium and cornelian stone are found there.”
    There is no gold associated with the land east of Ashur. Maybe just promissary notes?


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